LA - Baton Rouge. 3 officers killed/3 wounded, 17 July 2016

[CARIIS]

Ok guys - the gotta fight back video was recorded last week ...................and then he goes to Dallas - starting to wonder if the other guy started before him, or was involved in some way in Dallas, or watched Dallas and it "inspired " him, or saw all the coverage and wanted it, its not like he thought he would die (the mask IMO indictes he did not think he would die??). Maybe he was planning on going home and watching the coverage.

The searching the family home, the FBI, i think this is bigger than we know


Walking in all black in the middle of the day?

Denying affilations with god knows what. Who wakes up one day and thinks I had better go annoucne that I believe in nothing.

He saw how the Dallas guys beleifs were dissected in the media??


Today is violent - lots of violence this week - trigger - correlation? Insitagator of action today?


The family home is very interesting to me


speculation of course

 

[human]

Didn't he also travel to Iraq ? When was that, I wonder ?

He probably got a free trip seeing as he was a Marine,

He claims he went to the Maldives. Maldives is a Muslim country but they have incredibly expensive resorts on the most beautiful of ocean islands. Tourists cannot leave the resort . They hire people from other countries as the Muslims cannot see the tourist women in their itty bitty thong bikinis.

Men can go to the mainland but women cannot, I wonder if he went to a resort that costs a fortune or if he went to the mainland.

 

[bluesneakers]

Ok guys - the gotta fight back video was recorded last week ...................and then he goes to Dallas - starting to wonder if the other guy started before him, or was involved in some way in Dallas, or watched Dallas and it "inspired " him, or saw all the coverage and wanted it, its not like he thought he would die, so maybe he was planning on going home and watching the coverage. The searching the family home, the FBI, i think this is bigger than we know

speculation of course

I think he watched Dallas and it inspired him and then the riots and dozen police shootings since then set him on fire.
JMO

 

[Irish_Eyes]

Which, of course, they will be doing anyway.

No doubt. My best friend is an ER triage nurse. Because of the GOP convention here this week, her hospital is apparently the go-to for the Secret Service should anything super bad happen (pray it doesn't.) Anyhow, her supervisor tells her that she needs to meet with the SecService to answer a few security questions. My friend at first assumed they were all required to do this. Nope, in her department, just her. She doesn't have any kind of criminal record or anything, or sketchy affiliations of any kind, so yeah, this totally freaked her out.

Turns out they wanted to ask her about her involvement in an incident from 1995 - when she was 18, even though she was never actually charged. So she had to explain why she and several other seniors attempted to abscond with the Big Boy statue and relocate it to their football field for their senior prank. I feel like by the time the FBI is done, they'll know if this guy ever secretly owned a Color Me Badd album, and how many times he listened to it

 

[drjones]

Ok guys - the gotta fight back video was recorded last week ...................and then he goes to Dallas - starting to wonder if the other guy started before him, or was involved in some way in Dallas, or watched Dallas and it "inspired " him, or saw all the coverage and wanted it, its not like he thought he would die, so maybe he was planning on going home and watching the coverage. The searching the family home, the FBI, i think this is bigger than we know

speculation of course

he reacts to the alton sterling video
he reacts to the castile shooting
he retweets a pic of a guy shooting into a police car
says power only respects power
mentions police killings where the police werent charged
posts a video of UK police fighting with black people
responds to the dallas shootings by saying "he was one of us!"
posts about the black man found hung (ruled suicide i believe)

THEN he makes his "non-affiliation video"
posts we dont need preachers we need fighters
talks about cops and military as race soldiers, about his "oppressors"
and leaves for dallas

makes a string of posts about injustices done to black people
he is now in dallas and posts video from there - the one about you cant just protest, you have to go to war
says he isnt afraid to walk the world alone
says violence isnt THE answer but AN answer
goes to houston

now he is in baton rouge and talks about not being disrespected,
that you cant negotiate with bad people, that white people dont believe racism exists

then he posts "Just bc you wake up every morning doesn't mean that you're living. And just bc you shed your physical body doesn't mean that you're dead"
and then he goes out and murders 3 police officers and injures many more

 

[CARIIS]

• 0651 Cyber Network Operator - Sgt–Pvt

https://twitter.com/nathanvickers


How how or whatever is a Sgt Pvt??

[FONT=&amp]These marines are responsible for the installation, configuration, and management of data network or cyber systems in both a stand-alone and client-server environments, including MS Exchange, Defense Message Systems, and other authorized data network systems.

[/FONT]http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjo2/a/0651.htm

 

[drjones]

imo he made up his mind to do something like this after the dallas shooting and before making the affiliation video

 

[CARIIS]

he reacts to the alton sterling video
he reacts to the castile shooting
he retweets a pic of a guy shooting into a police car
says power only respects power
mentions police killings where the police werent charged
posts a video of UK police fighting with black people
responds to the dallas shootings by saying "he was one of us!"
posts about the black man found hung (ruled suicide i believe)

THEN he makes his "non-affiliation video"
posts we dont need preachers we need fighters
talks about cops and military as race soldiers, about his "oppressors"
and leaves for dallas

makes a string of posts about injustices done to black people
he is now in dallas and posts video from there - the one about you cant just protest, you have to go to war
says he isnt afraid to walk the world alone
says violence isnt THE answer but AN answer
goes to houston

now he is in baton rouge and talks about not being disrespected,
that you cant negotiate with bad people, that white people dont believe racism exists

then he posts "Just bc you wake up every morning doesn't mean that you're living. And just bc you shed your physical body doesn't mean that you're dead"
and then he goes out and murders 3 police officers and injures many more

Awesome post TY!!

And just bc you shed your physical body doesn't mean that you're dead" Suicide????

 

[drjones]

Awesome post TY!!

And just bc you shed your physical body doesn't mean that you're dead" Suicide????

i took it more to mean a belief in a soul or afterlife

 

[bluesneakers]

• 0651 Cyber Network Operator - Sgt–Pvt

How how or whatever is a Sgt Pvt??

[FONT="]These marines are responsible for the installation, configuration, and management of data network or cyber systems in both a stand-alone and client-server environments, including MS Exchange, Defense Message Systems, and other authorized data network systems.

[/FONT]http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjo2/a/0651.htm

The particular job title is applicable from Sgt - Pvt? Once you get above E5 you get a new number.

Upon promotion to staff sergeant (E-6), Marines on the cyber track can be promoted to MOS 0659, Cyber Network Systems Chief.

Also:

Job Requirements:

4) Must have a secret security clearance.

 

[CARIIS]

imo he made up his mind to do something like this after the dallas shooting and before making the affiliation video

That is where I am going too...........

.Wanted the fame after seeing what a story it turned into??. Tried to top Dallas fatalites??

If it was him who called it in - there ya go huh?? Maybe they can match up his voice on hisposts with call to 911?

 

[Wysteria]

Repectfully, there is no "drift" - in Dallas he made it clear he was doing what he was doing in direct repsonse to the events the week earlier. That is not drift - it is direct casue and effect. How can there be a dialog, about the event, without discussing the motivation clearly stated by the perp?

Same here - [FONT=&]made references to Alton Sterling, the black man killed by police in Baton Rouge on July 5.[/FONT][FONT=&]

Again , that is not drift - in fact most dialog on threads here, as in life, regard motivation - that is what anyone is attmepting to do when dealing with crime.

Again, repectfully, in all walks of life, in any domain, about anything, IMO ones notions about whatever it is we are referring are flavored by past experiences with whatever is being discussed.

Yes, when I read broad proclamitations that basically do not acknoledge that the system in this country has some very widespread issues. It is not only cops, its the prison system, it the prosctors. Its the judges, it the courts.

As a minority, I def feel, sadly, that I am in a postion to know , to a larger degree than non minorites, what the AA community is living now, and has been for decades. I have lived it.

The truth here, is mainstream society is only being exposed to a very small amount of what is going on here - thanx to cell phones. You bet I welcome cops who engage in crimes ending up in jail.

I certainly hope that noone who hears me says that hears me saying all cops are bad, I do not think that. I feel the same way about MUslims, and have "reared up" (ha) when those kind of statements are made.

Its a bright group here - there certainly cannot be folks here, that in the past 18 months can not acknowledge watching the system aquit cop after cop, who , with our own eyes, have seen no threatening behavior to warrent ending up dead.

Then the dialog "drifts" in to all their criminal backgrounds. Irrelvant IMO. When dead, the only thing that matters is what was happening in the 45 seconds before they were murdered. There is a reason for the term "excesive force"

A law enforcement officer has the right to use such force as is reasonably necessary under the circumstances to make a lawful arrest. An unreasonable seizure occurs when a law enforcement officer uses excessive forcein making a lawful arrest.

IMO

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Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/17/b...ckers-on-youtube-channel-video/#ixzz4EirYAgkv[/FONT]

Enabling, making excuses, and attempting to justify the vicious hate filled murders of LE this summer is adding to the problem.
This thread is about murders and the self admitted racist who committed the crimes.
I've listened and read some of the rantings of the criminal, but had enough after hearing the "N" word far too many times.
The criminal was filled with a deadly vile hatred, there are innocent human beings dead and injured because of that hatred.
Enough is enough.

 

[Everyday Grace]

I am starting to beleive there is a lot of fantasy going on here!! Anyone heard when the stint on the dean lists happened - it would be interesting to see if that happened and under what name!!

When seeking a job - they tend not to hire someone who present themselves as Bob, and when their SSN is checked Bill comes back..................................

When they are talking about "he" whom are they talking about!!

Something is very cookey here imo..................

One wants to write a book under a different name, whatever (that to is ??) but

After completing an Associate’s degree in General Studies at Central Texas College, Cosmo then attended Clark Atlanta University to further his education. After a year and a half at Clark Atlanta as a dean’s list student, he had a spiritual revelation that resulted in him dropping out of college, selling his two cars, giving away all of his material possessions, packing two suitcases and journeying to Africa—his ancestral homeland.

Kooky?

Yeah. Welcome to the world of sovereign citizen ideology.

Changing the name is part of separating oneself from being a corporate (flesh) US citizen subject to US law to be a sovereign (freeborn of the spirit) citizen subject only to natural law as one is inclined to interpret it.

Adherents of the ideology quibble, fuss, bicker, argue & fight incessantly over the specific "how-tos" and sometimes "whys" of what they do.

This shooter filed his name change with his declaration of sovereignty.

The document included a “live claim birth” record in which he changed his name to Cosmo Ausar Setepenra.

Legal?

Lol. Hardly, but a sovereign will argue anyone blue under the table that they know the law backward and forward, ad naseum.

Some (not all) sovereigns are highly intelligent people who can keep track of a great deal of information.

#NotAllSovereigns are prone to violent acts. However, their most notorious historical acts of violence have been directed at law enforcement.

IMO, this guy was definitely a sovereign (the court filing clinches that) and he ascribed to a number of other ideologies as well.

In his case, mixing potentially toxic ideas with other potentially toxic ideas resulted in a very bad end. Not the first for a sovereign and he won't be the last.

Try to make sense of a sovereign in the rational world? Good luck.

I do well to learn what I can about the ideology and those who sell it and/or buy into it without losing my own mind. Very frustrating subset of the extremist sub-culture. MOO.

 

[CARIIS]

oh missed this he lived 800 miles away?

what was he doing there

cnn

 

[liz b.]

Ok guys - the gotta fight back video was recorded last week ...................and then he goes to Dallas - starting to wonder if the other guy started before him, or was involved in some way in Dallas, or watched Dallas and it "inspired " him, or saw all the coverage and wanted it, its not like he thought he would die (the mask IMO indictes he did not think he would die??). Maybe he was planning on going home and watching the coverage.

The searching the family home, the FBI, i think this is bigger than we know


Walking in all black in the middle of the day?

Denying affilations with god knows what. Who wakes up one day and thinks I had better go annoucne that I believe in nothing.

He saw how the Dallas guys beleifs were dissected in the media??


Today is violent - lots of violence this week - trigger - correlation? Insitagator of action today?


The family home is very interesting to me


speculation of course

RBBM : I recall reading that BLM was going to have a "day of rage" . I believe that it was supposed to be a few days ago, but the attack in Nice, France occurred. perhaps they changed the day, to gain more news saturation ? jmo

 

[CARIIS]

Kooky?

Yeah. Welcome to the world of sovereign citizen ideology.

Changing the name is part of separating oneself from being a corporate (flesh) US citizen subject to US law to be a sovereign (freeborn of the spirit) citizen subject only to natural law as one is inclined to interpret it.

Adherents of the ideology quibble, fuss, bicker, argue & fight incessantly over the specific "how-tos" and sometimes "whys" of what they do.

This shooter filed his name change with his declaration of sovereignty.



Legal?

Lol. Hardly, but a sovereign will argue anyone blue under the table that they know the law backward and forward, ad naseum.

Some (not all) sovereigns are highly intelligent people who can keep track of a great deal of information.

#NotAllSovereigns are prone to violent acts. However, their most notorious historical acts of violence have been directed at law enforcement.

IMO, this guy was definitely a sovereign (the court filing clinches that) and he ascribed to a number of other ideologies as well.

In his case, mixing potentially toxic ideas with other potentially toxic ideas resulted in a very bad end. Not the first for a sovereign and he won't be the last.

Try to make sense of a sovereign in the rational world? Good luck.

I do well to learn what I can about the ideology and those who sell it and/or buy into it without losing my own mind. Very frustrating subset of the extremist sub-culture. MOO.

Where would i be w/o u every!! ty

 

[CARIIS]

'Nope, because he knew that the FBI Counter Terrorism Unit special agents would be knocking on the doors of any group or organization that he has proclaimed allegiance to, or been affiliated with, imo..

humm............interesting

 

[bluesneakers]

RBBM : I recall reading that BLM was going to have a "day of rage" . I believe that it was supposed to be a few days ago, but the attack in Nice, France occurred. perhaps they changed the day, to gain more news saturation ? jmo

It was Anonymous who called for the Day of Rage.

Earlier in the week, the hacker group "Anonymous" called for violent protests or a day of rage. Social media warned military officials and others to avoid 37 different cities throughout the United States

Black Lives Matter says this hacker group went completely against their morals and their message. They hope people do not make them synonymous with violence because of a few who have hijacked their movement.

Story about the peaceful BLM protest in Austin, TX:
http://www.fox7austin.com/news/local-news/175031890-story

 

[liz b.]

It was Anonymous who called for the Day of Rage.





Story about the peaceful BLM protest in Austin, TX:
http://www.fox7austin.com/news/local-news/175031890-story

BLM or Anonymous, it's quite the coinkydink. jmo Was it BLM who were chanting " Pigs in a blanket, Fry em like bacon " ? Or "what do we want ? dead cops. When do we want it ? now " ? TIA

 

[Irish_Eyes]

I've seen both BLM and Anon promoting the DOR so who knows.

It was expected to be especially large here due to the convention. They were saying possibly 10,000 people.

There ended up being about 40, and they must have left the rage at home because it was rather uneventful. They came, they marched, they left, basically.