LA - Baton Rouge. 3 officers killed/3 wounded, 17 July 2016

[abr]

http://www.kmbc.com/news/brother-of-baton-rouge-shooter-taken-into-custody-in-kansas-city/40761576

The man who brandished a gun at reporters at the home of Baton Rouge shooter Gavin Long has been taken into police custody on a seat belt violation warrant.

Hahaha!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Hate can make you crazy, but not in a legal sense.

:cow:

Exactly.

I always remember the words of Lt. Joe Kenda who majored in phycology in college. He said murders are caused by human emotions...which can lead them to become murderers.

 

[liz b.]

Because he knew someone would call 911 if he had a mask on. He plotted the execution of LE. Some reporters (live TV) have suggested that the killer was the one to call 911. He wanted to draw out LE to slaughter them. JMO

I agree, it was a lure kill. jmo

 

[rsd1200]

I didn't know a warrant would be issued for a seat belt violation. Is brandishing a gun just having it in your possession, or does it mean it was pointed at someone? It just seems reaching hard to me, to arrest someone over a seat belt violation. Would it happen if he wasn't the shooter's brother? He may be completely innocent of anything to do with the killings or knowing about the intent beforehand. The media can be vultures.

If he did not show up to court for the seat belt violation then a warrant would be issued in some states/districts/counties/regions. It's different for different places. I'm guessing that's what happened, and where he lived is one of those counties that issues warrants for that.

 

[K_Z]

Quite a decorated Marine. He must have behaved ok in the Marines. Five years is a longer time to serve. I wonder if we will hear any reports if weirdness like there was with the Dallas killer

Long's decorations are standard "tour of duty" decorations. They are not out of the ordinary, and do not demonstrate any excessive laudatory behavior. For example, the good conduct medal quoted in articles that he "earned" is routinely issued to all junior ranking enlisted members who have not been court martialed or have not received non- judicial punishment under the UCMJ.

One of the officers he killed, Matthew Gerald, served both as a Marine, and as an Army Crew Chief for a Blackhawk helicopter unit. Gerald did 3 tours in Iraq. Gerald is the REAL hero. I am disgusted that msm articles go into great detail about Long's very mundane military history, while dismissively listing Gerald as "just" a veteran, and a "new cop". MSM likes to imply the murderous perp is some kind of a heroic victim, IMO, and villainize the ambushed victim, who was the real hero.

I am willing to bet that Long was a complete PITA when in the service, based on his behavior and actions since leaving the service. A simmering, murderous racist, clearly. One doesn't turn that kind of thinking and behavior on and off like a light switch.

Matthew Gerald.

http://www.stripes.com/news/us/slain-officer-served-in-marines-army-before-becoming-a-cop-1.419675

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/matth...icers-identified-name-alton-sterling-sheriff/

 

[GeeEm]

What context was it in, I mean outside of being towed. Was this in BR after the shooting? Tia

Hi neesaki

This occurred during a search for possible other suspects and BR LEO pulled this vehicle over and took them into custody for questioning. The LE then towed the vehicle to search.

Later these 2 were released and I don't know anything else except what was told by reporters.

#PrayforBatonRouge 🎗

 

[kimi_SFC]

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[BayouBelle_LA]

FBI monitoring New Black Panther Party; Group in Baton Rouge

Monday morning, ABC News reported the FBI was watching the group in the wake of a deadly ambush that left three law enforcement officers dead and three others injured on Airline Highway in Baton Rouge.

http://www.wbrz.com/news/new-fbi-monitoring-new-black-panther-party-group-in-baton-rouge

 

[mickey2942]

I am finding it interesting that so many of these violent offenders were previously in the military.

Maybe more needs to be done, before turning these people loose, like an assessment of potential harm to self or others on discharge, and if appropriate, to send these people someplace for treatment before discharge.

What I have seen, is a PITA, is usually thrown a bone, like 50% SC, for some issue, to just get rid of them. And they are back in society....still unbalanced, but no one wants to deal with their mental health issues, that probably existed prior to military service.

 

[JLSChook]

This is a writer for Forbes. She has some really good info on the extremist group(s) that Gavin Long was a part of.

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/with_replies

 

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[K_Z]

• 0651 Cyber Network Operator - Sgt–Pvt

https://twitter.com/nathanvickers

How how or whatever is a Sgt Pvt??

[FONT=&]These marines are responsible for the installation, configuration, and management of data network or cyber systems in both a stand-alone and client-server environments, including MS Exchange, Defense Message Systems, and other authorized data network systems.

[/FONT]http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjo2/a/0651.htm

It's not a "Sgt Pvt". That is a range of ranks that are appropriate for the MOS (job description). That would be an E-1 to an E-4 or E-5. If that was on his records, it means he was in the same job his whole enlistment.

The overseas ribbons listed in the Twitter link are not the same as meritorious service medals. They are awarded automatically. One per deployment, and one per overseas tour (generally awarded about every 12-18 months if the tour is lengthy).

 

[human]

Long's decorations are standard "tour of duty" decorations. They are not out of the ordinary, and do not demonstrate any excessive laudatory behavior. For example, the good conduct medal quoted in articles that he "earned" is routinely issued to all junior ranking enlisted members who have not been court martialed or have not received non- judicial punishment under the UCMJ.

One of the officers he killed, Matthew Gerald, served both as a Marine, and as an Army Crew Chief for a Blackhawk helicopter unit. Gerald did 3 tours in Iraq. Gerald is the REAL hero. I am disgusted that msm articles go into great detail about Long's very mundane military history, while dismissively listing Gerald as "just" a veteran, and a "new cop". MSM likes to imply the murderous perp is some kind of a heroic victim, IMO, and villainize the ambushed victim, who was the real hero.

I am willing to bet that Long was a complete PITA when in the service, based on his behavior and actions since leaving the service. A simmering, murderous racist, clearly. One doesn't turn that kind of thinking and behavior on and off like a light switch.

Matthew Gerald.

http://www.stripes.com/news/us/slain-officer-served-in-marines-army-before-becoming-a-cop-1.419675

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/matth...icers-identified-name-alton-sterling-sheriff/

Hm. I am not honoring him, but he did serve for five years and got awards. He must have towed the line. The Marines don't give out awards to nut jobs, do they?

If one makes a remark about the shooter, it does not take away from the suffering police officer,

The shooter seemed to be OK. Then he descended into madness. There are different kinds of mental illnesses. NPD is considered a mental illness.

People have hypothesized he was an injustice collector. To me, the fact that he was so in love with himself and felt he had all kinds of answers for people leads me to believe there is going to be something documenting his exraordinary deed. ( in his opinion)). He is too much NPD to not have recognition for whatever it is he thought he accomplished.

 

[bluesneakers]

I am finding it interesting that so many of these violent offenders were previously in the military.

Maybe more needs to be done, before turning these people loose, like an assessment of potential harm to self or others on discharge, and if appropriate, to send these people someplace for treatment before discharge.

What I have seen, is a PITA, is usually thrown a bone, like 50% SC, for some issue, to just get rid of them. And they are back in society....still unbalanced, but no one wants to deal with their mental health issues, that probably existed prior to military service.

BBM I agree. The violent offenders and abusers are attracted to the military for their own reasons and they get out ill or damaged or angrier - whatever. I don't mean to blame the training or the work they do, but it's also true veterans are always getting shafted.

 

[Treelights]

He served in Iraq? If so, two weeks is probably a lifetime, I forget how many vets commit suicide and it isn't because they miss serving.

Perhaps your post is meant for the Original Poster?

In the context of the Original Poster, 20 years is a long time, imoo. 5 years is not as long as 20 or 30, in That Context.

My father was a 30 year career soldier and 2 tours of Viet-Nam decorated with the Bronze Star Medal, among many achievements.

It is all relative to the context in which the poster posted, and meant.

I do understand war can feel like a lifetime. When my dad's letters were Delayed from Viet-Nam, that was scary.
The Tet Offensive was scary. ALL of it was scary. It did feel like a lifetime to us.

My post was merely a reflection of what I thought the poster meant about soldiers being in the military for 20 years versus 5 years.

IMOO.

 

[drjones]

the mask he wore was exactly like what was in the picture on his wall i think

 

[K_Z]

I am finding it interesting that so many of these violent offenders were previously in the military.

Maybe more needs to be done, before turning these people loose, like an assessment of potential harm to self or others on discharge, and if appropriate, to send these people someplace for treatment before discharge.

What I have seen, is a PITA, is usually thrown a bone, like 50% SC, for some issue, to just get rid of them. And they are back in society....still unbalanced, but no one wants to deal with their mental health issues, that probably existed prior to military service.

My take on this is that most of the issues of annoying and difficult service members is that they are not actually mentally ill, but have personality disorders that are not compatible with military service. Such as borderline personality disorders, antisocial personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorders, etc. There isn't any counseling, meds, or mental health services that can "fix" these things. When their enlistment is up (or their duty commitment for Officers), they get out, or are persuaded to get out by such things as not getting the assignments they want.

There is really nothing the military or society can do about these kind of whack jobs. Until they actually DO something bad enough to prosecute. This guy, Gavin Long, just screams personality disorder, IMO.

Don't mistake personality disorders for things like PTSD.

 

[drjones]

car was located right at the scene of the shooting

 

[K_Z]

Duplicate post deleted. My apologies! Wonky hotel wifi.

 

[drjones]

he approached an empty police cruiser ready to fire on it but it was empty so he moved on
he then targetted another cruiser but by the time he parked and went for it the officer had pulled out (LUCKY)