LA LA - Belle Chasse, WhtMale 16-17, UP88342, hanged, suicide note, Feb'75 #2

[methodwriter85]

Crowd funding would be big on this case. This poor kid. Even if it's not Bayard, there's a good chance he has relatives (perhaps siblings or cousins) that are still left. But 15-20 years from now? Probably not. That's why it needs to get done now.

 

[Romulus]

6882DMMA - Raymond Louis Barabe

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Name: Raymond Louis Barabe
Nickname/Alias: Ray
Case Classification: Missing
Missing Since: November 06, 1968
Location Last Seen: Falmouth, Barnstable County, Massachusetts

Physical Description​

Date of Birth: May 23, 1956
Age: 12 yrs old
Race: White / Caucasian
Gender: Male
Height: 4'10"
Weight: 75 lbs
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Brown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Facial dimples

Identifiers​

Dentals: Unknown
Fingerprints: Unknown
DNA: Unknown

Clothing & Personal Items​

Clothing: Black leather jacket, olive colored trousers, blue sport shirt, and browloafers.
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Ray was carrying his math book.

Circumstances of Disappearance​

Raymond disappeared from Falmouth, Massachusetts on November 6, 1968. He was last seen at 3:15pm standing in the parking lot of Falmouth Plaza, close to his home located at 36 Alma Road. His mother was shopping at the Plaza and saw Raymond there. She instructed him to go home. Investigators believed that Raymond had run away from home, as he was known to get into trouble after his family had moved to the house on Alma Road. News articles say a systematic search for Ray was never conducted at the time of his disappearance.

Investigating Agency(s)​

Agency Name: Falmouth Police Department
Agency Contact Person:
Agency Phone Number: 774-255-4527
Agency E-mail: [email protected]
Agency Case Number: 24-27893-OF
Agency Name: Massachusetts State Police - Cape and Islands District Attorney Office
Agency Contact Person:
Agency Phone Number: 508-362-8113
Agency E-mail:
Agency Case Number:
NamUs Case Number: 60439

Information Source(s)​

NamUs
The Boston Globe-July 29, 1970

https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/software/mp-main.html?id=6882DMMA

The resemblance is uncanny! Possible this boy?

 

[Romulus]

Missing Person/NamUs #MP60439
Raymond Louis Barabe, Male, White/Caucasian
Date of Last Contact: November 6, 1968
Missing From: Falmouth, Massachusetts
Missing Age: 12 Years

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[Romulus]

Puritan shirt of this boy is from Massachussets

Locations New

Hyannis Chatham Mashpee Falmouth Vineyard Vines "I'd rather make a friend then a sale."

puritancapecod.com

Raymond Louis Barabe is also missing from Massachussets...Quote post from Beekarina

We do know the brand. It is mentioned several times in the original thread. Escapes me at the moment, but I was to say it is Puritan, or something along those lines. if you search it will come up. There was discussion about the brand being made on Cape Cod, but then also a Puritan brand bought at some point by Walmart. Seems to be two levels of garment as I still see Puritan brand on Cape Cod.

A bit higher end, but not exceptionally so--think a family with some means:

Men's Shirts

Shop the brands you love from the store you trust. Puritan is a third generation, family owned and operated clothing store for over 100 years! Shop an amazing selection of today's best brands for men and women at their luxurious stores in Hyannis, Chatham, and Mashpee Commons.

puritancapecod.com

And then Walmart, which is for the "masses". I have no idea when the "Puritan" clothing began to be sold there, or if the two are related. Just showing you as I know you are outside the US. It costs about $10 vs $140. View attachment 487727 Hope this helps!

 

[Lebowski]

ok, i'm interested and sympathetic in both cases, but i'm honestly not seeing what makes you think these are a match. there are some general consistencies, but that's about it.

 

[rylie113]

This is now the photo listed on the doe's DoeNetwork page

 

[methodwriter85]

ok, i'm interested and sympathetic in both cases, but i'm honestly not seeing what makes you think these are a match. there are some general consistencies, but that's about it.

Five years just seems like an awfully long time for someone to survive being on the streets as a runaway. And the way the note was written did not come off like someone who only had a 6th or 7th grade education.

 

[cenazoic]

This is absolutely neither here nor there, but I totally HATE that colorized image.

I think it’s the weirdly (and too-) pink lips, and how the AI uncanny valley effect somehow makes him look less ‘real’ than the original sketch.

 

[chiaracelli]

Does anyone know if Brian Joseph Page has been ruled out?

 

[The4TierBridge]

Does anyone know if Brian Joseph Page has been ruled out?

This person has 0 exclusions and no surviving forensic identifiers.

 

[cenazoic]

As far as we know, technically no one can be ruled out against BCJD, since we don’t have any of his forensic identifiers. (Except Charles Wallace. )

That said, BCJD was reportedly a six-footer, which would seem to eliminate Brian Page on height alone (5’6).

 

[mtlupy]

So, we know for a fact that he ISN'T Charles Wallace now. Other ideas?

 

[Lebowski]

like i said upthread, i'd bet money it's bayard cousins

 

[Romulus]

So, we know for a fact that he ISN'T Charles Wallace now. Other ideas?

6988DMCO - Christopher William Vigil​

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Right 2: Age-progressed by NCMEC to 44, 53 years
Name: Christopher William Vigil
Nickname/Alias: Chris
Case Classification: Missing
Missing Since: April 30, 1978
Location Last Seen: Poudre Park, Larimer County, Colorado

Physical Description​

Date of Birth: August 24, 1968
Age: 9 years old
Race: White
Gender: Male
Height: 4'8"
Weight: 74 lbs.
Hair Color: Brown. Full head of hair.
Eye Color: Green
Distinguishing Marks/Features: He was very tall for being 9 years old.

Identifiers​

Dentals: Unknown
Fingerprints: Unknown
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items​

Clothing: Chris was wearing a green shirt, green plaid pants, blue tennis shoes, and a maroon jacket.
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Carrying a can of diet Pepsi.

Circumstances of Disappearance​

Chris was last seen hiking on April 30, 1978, about midway on Grey Rock mountain trail off of Highway 14 in the Poudre Canyon. He had gone ahead of his Mom and younger brother who were hiking with him to reach a formation of boulders approximately ¾ of a mile up the trail from the trailhead. According to witnesses, Chris reached the boulders and may have been talking to an unknown male and then was heard yelling. One witness reported she picked up a can of diet Pepsi on the trail and later threw it away in the parking lot garbage.

Investigating Agency(s)​

Agency Name: Larimer County Sheriff's Office
Agency Contact Person: Sheriff John Feyen
Agency Phone Number: 970-498-7000
Agency E-mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: 78-2739
NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 12919
NCMEC Case Number: 1183718

Information Source(s)​

NamUs
NCMEC
CBI
Christopher Vigil. Missing But Not Forgotten
The Coloradoan, Sept. 18, 2019

https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/software/mp-main.html?id=6988DMCO

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[Sweetluv]

The above suggested went missing in 1978. The UID was found in 1975.

 

[Romulus]

The above suggested went missing in 1978. The UID was found in 1975.

Arghhh my error, sorry!

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Late to this, but I was wrong about Charles Wallace being the Belles Chase UID.

I’m astonished. The dentist said they had matching dental records and the same unusual long scar in their mouths from an injury.

I’m happy that Charles has his name back and his family has answers.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

I’m astonished. The dentist said they had matching dental records and the same unusual long scar in their mouths from an injury.

It really is hard to believe. It feels like it has to be a mistake, two missing teen boys with the same general appearance, similar dental records, and scar in their mouths? The chance of that, because of the similar mouth scar, must be tiny. But here we are. And I guess there were a lot of missing young men in the 70's.

 

[Hellandhighotters]

It really is hard to believe. It feels like it has to be a mistake, two missing teen boys with the same general appearance, similar dental records, and scar in their mouths? The chance of that, because of the similar mouth scar, must be tiny. But here we are. And I guess there were a lot of missing young men in the 70's.

I'm kinda late to this investigation but where did anyone find his dental records? in all of the sources about him I couldnt see any mentions of dental records or mouth scars, just slightly protruding teeth

 

[Rolypolyoly]

like i said upthread, i'd bet money it's bayard cousins

Yeah, I always had Bayard and Charles at the top of my list, although I was convinced he was Charles due to the dentals and mouth scar, Bayard has always been a close second choice. His photo is so much like the sketch.