LA LA - Jefferson Parish, WhtFem 18-25, UP6942, Sep'79

[Migmuu]

UP#6942

DEMOGRAPHICS
Age: 18 - 25 years old
Race: Caucasian
Sex: Female
Postmortem interval: 1978 to 1979
Body conditions: All parts recovered. Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction

CIRCUMSTANCES
Found on September 11, 1979
Jefferson Parish, Louisiana
Body found in Jefferson Parish, mandible and maxilla removed for future identification, location of body unknown. Age, sex, and race are estimated from the jaws only.

IDENTIFIERS
Dentals: Available and entered
DNA: Samples available - Not yet submitted
Fingerprints: Unavailable

 

[Migmuu]

It sounds like she could be Mary Rodermund, a victim of serial killer Robert Hohenberger. She was added to Charley today. There isn't much information about the UID, but Mary fits in okay with what's available.

Age (16) is within 2 years
Race (Caucasian) matches
Disappeared in March 1978 (postmortem interval is 1978 - 1979)
Morgan City is only 97 miles from Jefferson Parish

She's not in NamUs, so no comparisons could be made.

 

[rainwater]

Migmuu,

Did you call Mary Rodermund in as a possible to the Jefferson Parish coroner?

 

[Migmuu]

No, I never did call it in.

 

[bessie]

Sure wish we knew where in Jefferson Parish the remains were found. Jefferson Parish is vast.

 

[rainwater]

Jefferson Parish is huge-it is divided by the Mississippi River into what locals call 'East Bank" (Metairie, Kenner side if you are looking at a map) and "West Bank" ( Harvey, Terrytown, Westwego side ). Algiers is West Bank, but is Orleans Parish. For whatever reason, I could not find this UID listed on the Louisiana "Faces" site run by LSU for UIDs, although they list 120 UIDs found in the state.

Link: http://identifyla.lsu.edu/la_unidentified.php?p=12

There are about 15 cases that look like they might be in progress as far as information goes-but those are mainly from Bossier Parish. I clicked on one and the only information listed for the UID was "over 16".

 

[bessie]

Exactly! The parish spans from the Gulf of Mexico north to Lake Pontchartrain. In addition to the east/west bank division, areas of the parish are referred to as Upper and Lower Jefferson. I live in New Orleans, so this is somewhat local to me. Also, I knew a woman who went missing in the spring or summer of 1979 in Jefferson Parish. Her body was recovered on the West Bank, just across the river from New Orleans, but her murder never solved. So that makes me a little more curious about this Jane Doe.

MAP

 

[alllads]

Weird that this woman isn't on the LSU FACES website - LSU FACES is the contact listed, AND NamUS lists an LSU number - 08-29-11. But this number doesn't correspond with anything.

 

[hayaletcatcher]

Added as rule out 6th September 2016
Mary Shinn 1953 Arkansas

 

[Romulus]

Alice Marie Reeves?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...A-Alice-Marie-Reeves-20-Calcasieu-Parish-1967

 

[theshadow45]

Arrilla Naomi Webb-Vaul http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/webb-vaul_arrilla.html has been missing from Bossier Parish since 15 March 1979.

 

[folieadeuxnola]

Have searched the local newspapers have yet to find anything on this UID

 

[theshadow45]

Jefferson Parish Jane Doe has been unidentified for 39 years today.

 

[folieadeuxnola]

NAMUS Rule Outs as of 9/21/18

MP10738
Mary Shinn
07/20/1978
Columbia AR

 

[roliver]

I wonder why they haven't done a comparison for Arrilla Naomi Webb-Vaul. Arrilla's had comps done pretty recently on her.

 

[Melt71]

As these remains can’t be found, but they did have her mandible and maxilla, presumably the DNA samples originally listed as pending have now been received, so there may be auto-rule outs in Namus that have not been manually entered/visible in the rule out list

 

[theshadow45]

Jefferson Parish Jane Doe has been unidentified for 43 years today.

 

[theshadow45]

Jefferson Parish Jane Doe has been unidentified for 44 years today.

 

[theshadow45]

Jefferson Parish Jane Doe has been unidentified for 45 years today.

 

[AirForceVet24]

So in February I submitted a match for this Doe to be Phyllis Marie Corbin to NamUs and the LSU Faces Lab. I ended up getting a phone call from someone at the LSU Faces lab a few days after I submitted it and the idea that this is Phyllis is actually not so far fetched, as I got the idea that the LSU Faces lab had a suspicion that this might be her. I am friends with a family member of the Corbin family and they also called over to the LSU Faces Lab and they too got the idea that this Doe might be Phyllis.

The age range adds up and there's no evidence that Phyllis ever left Louisiana. In fact their is some suggestive evidence that she may stayed there and died in the mid 70s. This is where it gets convoluted, so the state of Louisiana found the remains in 1979, however, sometime in the mid 90s, likely around 98 or 99, the remains were cremated and the state lost the remains. However, they did cut out the mouth of this Doe so her Dentals are on file and the actual Mouth area was not cremated (mandible). However, efforts to obtain DNA has proven to be difficult as the LSU Faces lab tried in 2010 and 2013 to obtain DNA, but always got an incomplete set. Efforts are in the works this year to get a full set of DNA for this Doe. Currently the only exclusion is Mary Shinn based upon Dental Records. I did request records pertaining to this Doe recently however, no one has ever got back with me and all phone calls go to voicemail.