LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette, 19 May 2012 - #2

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  • #241
Would you agree that the area over by colliseum road is the darkest and most deserted piece of her route home?

Yes. If she took that route....I still think she would have gone down Parkside to Souvenir Gate, and avoided the Coliseum area. It is out of her way, very dark, and very unpopulated.

Parkside and Souvenir Gate are darkish, but she would have been in a more populated area.
 
  • #242
Exactly. My underlying point that maybe he had certain knowledge on this subject therefore employed this knowledge and avoided blinking. But so much so to make it odd. IMCrazyA$$O

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. You think Brettly is knowledgable about the rate of normal blinks per minute and that he deliberately avoided blinking for 38 seconds so that he would look odd?
 
  • #243
it is from this IB times article

(which takes msm reports and makes them their own)

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/345...ick-missing-volunteers-retrace-bike-route.htm

imhoo they got this wrong as there is no report at KATC saying this.... they embellished it imhoo...

Just going to say ... the IBT author refers to an interview with Charlene on KATC. Went to KATC and I cannot find that interview. But it is on ABC News.

Shunick's older sister says she never would have left on her own, and that Saturday was her brother's graduation. Monday was Mickey's own 22nd birthday, and the two had big plans.

"She's my mini-me. She's one of my best friends and I just miss her and I want to know what's going on," sister Charlie Shunick said through tears.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/mickey-shu...issing-student/story?id=16418943#.T76AxlIw_eV

and

Shunick's older sister, continued to say that she never would have left to go home on her own.

"She's my mini-me," she said, reported ABC. "She's one of my best friends and I just miss her and I want to know what's going on."

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/345...ick-missing-volunteers-retrace-bike-route.htm

"She would never have left on her own", refers to her sister's belief that Mickey would never willingly *disappear*. MOO-
 
  • #244
Yes. If she took that route....I still think she would have gone down Parkside to Souvenir Gate, and avoided the Coliseum area. It is out of her way, very dark, and very unpopulated.

Parkside and Souvenir Gate are darkish, but she would have been in a more populated area.

I see, so Souvenir Gate then Reinhardt then Cajundome to Congress. Yes that makes sense. I hadn't thought of that but you would instinctively avoid the Coliseum area if you're alert enough to think AHEAD and not take St. Landry but Souvenir Gate ahead of time. If she avoided the coliseum area, this whole thing is completely mind boggling.
 
  • #245
I have seen a couple of posts showing concern that BW did not eat with MS after returning from Taco Bell. I just want to put my two cents in here... From perusing BW's instagram, it appears that he is very health conscious and may even be vegan. If that is the case, he would not have wanted to eat Taco Bell bc there would have been very few options available to him.

Also, his viral video didn't seem odd to me at all. He is of the younger, hip-geek generation that sees social media as a way to distribute knowledge quickly and wide. The use of the word "inertia" is a commonly used word to describe this spread of knowledge. The video had a vibe like he, and those who helped him make it, were trying to achieve the same viral level that the Kony 2012 video did a few months ago. It's the new generation. It's how they act. Not weird at all. jmo... Half joking here, but google the video "sh** hipsters say", and it may give you some insight. And, I mean this in the nicest possible way to BW and his friends. To me, they seem like genuinely kind people.

He seems genuinely upset. And I think if he did "love" her in a more than platonic way and somehow snapped that night, he would have quickly broke when questioned by LE. He wouldn't be trying to get the word out about Mickey to everyone on the Internet. I think we should listen to those who know Mickey and BW when they say he had nothing to do with her going missing. All moo and no disrespect intended for those who feel differently.
 
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I have seen a couple of posts showing concern that BW did not eat with MS after returning from Taco Bell. I just want to put my two cents in here... From perusing BW's instagram, it appears that he is very health conscious and may even be vegan. If that is the case, he would not have wanted to eat Taco Bell bc there would have been very few options available to him.

Also, his viral video didn't seem odd to me at all. He is of the younger, hip-geek generation that sees social media as a way to distribute knowledge quickly and wide. The use of the word "inertia" is a commonly used word to describe this spread of knowledge. The video had a vibe like he, and those who helped him make it, were trying to achieve the same viral level that the Kony 2012 video did a few months ago. It's the new generation. It's how they act. Not weird at all. jmo... Half joking here, but google the video "sh** hipsters say", and it may give you some insight. And, I mean this in the nicest possible way to BW and his friends. To me, they seem like genuinely kind people.

He seems genuinely upset. And I think if he did "love" her in a more than platonic way and somehow snapped that night, he would have quickly broke when questioned by LE. He wouldn't be trying to get the word out about Mickey to everyone on the Internet. I think we should listen to those who know Mickey and BW when they say he had nothing to do with her going missing. All moo and no disrespect intended for those who feel differently.

ita!

I have to share this as I was vegan for a while (am now just vegetarian) but there are items at taco bell that are vegan (I used to live on the al fresco bean burrito!)

http://www.veganeatingout.com/taco-bell-menu/
 
  • #248
I see, so Souvenir Gate then Reinhardt then Cajundome to Congress. Yes that makes sense. I hadn't thought of that but you would instinctively avoid the Coliseum area if you're alert enough to think AHEAD and not take St. Landry but Souvenir Gate ahead of time. If she avoided the coliseum area, this whole thing is completely mind boggling.

Brettly said she headed up Parkway. I totally understand why she didn't go directly to Congress, because the area across Congress right there is a high crime area known for drug activity and prostitution. Going up Parkway, she would have avoided that. She would have intersected Souvenir Gate before coming anywhere near the Coliseum, and it makes sense to me that she would have thought of how much closer, more direct and more populated that route would be and decided to turn there.

That area has been searched. Nothing found yet.
 
  • #249
Brettly said she headed up Parkway. I totally understand why she didn't go directly to Congress, because the area across Congress right there is a high crime area known for drug activity and prostitution. Going up Parkway, she would have avoided that. She would have intersected Souvenir Gate before coming anywhere near the Coliseum, and it makes sense to me that she would have thought of how much closer, more direct and more populated that route would be and decided to turn there.

That area has been searched. Nothing found yet.

Do you mean Parkside? Also Parkside doesn't actually intersect Souvenir Gate so wouldn't she have to make a judgment call upon reaching University? At that juncture I wouldn't know that Souvenir Gate is the way to go. I'm not very street savvy but St. Landry might look bigger and safer but then I'm stuck at the colliseum. But do you think most people would know at that point to choose to go up on University to Souvenir Gate?
 
  • #250
Mahmoo,

Thank you for your search efforts and description of your experience.

(for anyone who might know)
I am wondering if anything is being done to log information about "who" is participating in the searches. In cases I have followed lately searchers need proper ID. It would seem likely in this case that the perp might insert himself into the investigation. This logging of searcher ID might help investigators narrow down a suspect.
JMO
That was a concern of mine yesterday. Volunteers were asked to supply only name and phone number; people could also supply an email address if they wanted. The people going out on what I'm calling "organized" team searches into specific areas were asked again to supply team leaders with name/phone# and that was it ... no drivers license or formal ID. Those lists, which included the sector number being searched, were then given back to the coordinator prior to us leaving to search. Team leaders were asked to report back after sectors were cleared/searched and to advise that all team members were accounted for prior to leaving the search areas.

Another thing that had crossed my mind as well was that the 'search map' was in full view for anyone to see what areas had been searched already. However, we have to keep in mind, these searches were being organized by volunteers that more than likely have not had experience with something like this. I don't what experience the guy that was coordinating has other than we were told he was former military.
 
  • #251
Do you mean Parkside? Also Parkside doesn't actually intersect Souvenir Gate so wouldn't she have to make a judgment call upon reaching University? At that juncture I wouldn't know that Souvenir Gate is the way to go. I'm not very street savvy but St. Landry might look bigger and safer but then I'm stuck at the colliseum. But do you think most people would know at that point to choose to go up on University to Souvenir Gate?


Da## auto correct! Yes, parkSIDE.

I'm just thinking of what I would do....I'd head for Souvenir Gate, because I honestly would never ride a bike or walk that dark area by the Coliseum at night....
 
  • #252
Can someone point me to that fabulous map that was posted showing all possible routes and search areas? For some reason it is eluding me... Thanks!

ETA: never mind, I found it.

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  • #253
Do you mean Parkside? Also Parkside doesn't actually intersect Souvenir Gate so wouldn't she have to make a judgment call upon reaching University? At that juncture I wouldn't know that Souvenir Gate is the way to go. I'm not very street savvy but St. Landry might look bigger and safer but then I'm stuck at the colliseum. But do you think most people would know at that point to choose to go up on University to Souvenir Gate?

MY BAD, Parkside intersects Souvenir Gate. But wouldn't the business of University lure her if she got scared of the dark?
 
  • #254
MY BAD, Parkside intersects Souvenir Gate. But wouldn't the business of University lure her if she got scared of the dark?

The area by Lafayette Middle School on Souvenir Gate, with all those trees would creep me out at night. I'd choose St. Landry if I were not thinking ahead.
 
  • #255
That was a concern of mine yesterday. Volunteers were asked to supply only name and phone number; people could also supply an email address if they wanted. The people going out on what I'm calling "organized" team searches into specific areas were asked again to supply team leaders with name/phone# and that was it ... no drivers license or formal ID. Those lists, which included the sector number being searched, were then given back to the coordinator prior to us leaving to search. Team leaders were asked to report back after sectors were cleared/searched and to advise that all team members were accounted for prior to leaving the search areas.

Another thing that had crossed my mind as well was that the 'search map' was in full view for anyone to see what areas had been searched already. However, we have to keep in mind, these searches were being organized by volunteers that more than likely have not had experience with something like this. I don't what experience the guy that was coordinating has other than we were told he was former military.

They are asking for valid ID now, TES probably set this rule. Also, I am so glad TES is there, I saw someone on one of the facebook pages mentioning picking up potential evidence and bagging it on their own to bring back to see if was important. That gave me pause, that's for sure.
 
  • #256
Da## auto correct! Yes, parkSIDE.

I'm just thinking of what I would do....I'd head for Souvenir Gate, because I honestly would never ride a bike or walk that dark area by the Coliseum at night....

That was supposedly her normal route though, so I dunno.
 
  • #257
Do you mean Parkside? Also Parkside doesn't actually intersect Souvenir Gate so wouldn't she have to make a judgment call upon reaching University? At that juncture I wouldn't know that Souvenir Gate is the way to go. I'm not very street savvy but St. Landry might look bigger and safer but then I'm stuck at the colliseum. But do you think most people would know at that point to choose to go up on University to Souvenir Gate?

MY BAD, Parkside intersects Souvenir Gate. But wouldn't the business of University lure her if she got scared of the dark?

Yes, it does! You threw me for a loop and I hadto go check to make sure I hadn't gone nuts!

I don't think University would be such a lure....it would be heading almost directly parallel back where she started from. Souvenir Gate would get her all the way to the Cajun Dome (Reinhardt is really the same road with a different name!).

I could be wrong, and I know it wasn't her usual route. But Mickey is safety conscience, and it just makes sense to me that she would avoid unlit, lonely places if she could. And since she was tired, a more direct route would have been tempting.
 
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I am a Private Investigator in Lafayette, La and working on this case independently and would like to point a few things out.

While there are many good theories in this thread, it is important to focus on the facts and only the facts to form theories as well as look at the most simple explanations for her disappearance.

Scenario 1: Hit and run. While possible, highly unlikely. The sound of a wreck is unmistakable and loud. Also, someone who accidentally hits someone is more likely to speed off rather than further incriminate themselves by getting out, risk being seen, hide a person and a bike and leave more evidence. So possible, but unlikely

Scenario 2: Abducted by stranger. First, this doesnt happen all that often around here and its normally with children. Most acts of random violence are typically
robberies. So its quite possible someone saw her alone and thought to steal her bag and bike. However this is where it becomes highly illogical. Someone just commiting a robbery, again like a hit and run, would not want to further incriminate themselves. These crimes are usually quick. Knocked off bike, stole bag, sped off. Simple. Even if a fight ensued and god forbid she died, the person would most likely get away as fast as possible. There would be evidence of a struggle somewhere and i think she or her belongings would be found by now. Taking a person AND a bike withought leaving a trace is just too difficult and too much trouble for some random crime.

This leaves us with the most likeliest of scenarios. She stopped to visit someone or someone she knew saw her and offered her a ride home. This is where something went wrong and whatever happened happened. This would account for why theres no one who saw or heard anything, why nothing of hers has been found, and the general lack of evidence. This is the most likely situation and is the angle that should be focused on.


I think you are spot on! It just makes the most sense IMO.
 
  • #260
I find it strange that MIckey was hungover, not from that night, but from the night before. That would be a very very long time and just doesn't sit well with me.

It does happen, trust me. ;) She is petite and only 21, probably not "mastered" drinking yet. That has happened to me a couple of times and, believe me, I remember (I am a 5' tall female, well over age 21, LOL)
 
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