LA - Officer fatally shoots Alton Sterling outside store, Baton Rouge, 2016

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I'm pretty sure he's referring to obtaining them illegally, which apparently is pretty easy to do.

He probably did, but he used the word "buying" as in comparison to "buying" a computer.

He should have said "stealing" lol.
JUST KIDDING 😉

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  • #382
It wasn't a memorial for Stirling or Castile, it was for the police officers. Obama has already spoken about the other 2 shootings, I don't think it was proper for the officers either.
 
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Had he not acknowledged Sterling, it would have looked like the Dallas PD officer's lives were more valuable to Obama than AS's was. That definitely wouldn't help the current tense situation at all.
I cannot agree with that. This was a service for the Dallas police officers killed. The respect to them should out way making other groups being happy. According to Sterling's parents he has already called them with his condolences.
I didn't watch all of his speech, but did he mention the other law enforcement that have been killed in the line of duty since Dallas?
It's just my opinion, and in the long run it doesn't matter what I feel, but I sure hope he didn't add salt to the wounds of the families, Dallas police and the Dallas community.
 
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From the link

It turns out Sterling has struggled with police in the past. Documents show, in May 2009, Sterling fought with cops outside of a convenience store on Rosenwald Road, where he was selling CDs, while carrying a gun.

In the report dated May 29, 2009, the officer said he was dispatched to a convenience store after getting a complaint about a subject "on the corner selling CDs" and that the subject had pulled a gun on someone.
 
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Apparently, his time in prison did not rehabilitate him. Another illegal gun, another time resisting and fighting with police, another time selling counterfeit cds or DVDs. He should have served the entire five years, and he would still most likely be alive. I cannot find excuses for him any longer. I was sympathetic until this came out, because it wasn't his first rodeo. I do feel terrible for his family and loved ones though. And, I do wish he hadn't lost his life, but I am in the opinion that he was at least partially responsible.
 
  • #389
Wow, that link shows that the incident in 2009 was practically identical to the one in which he lost his life.
 
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Son of Alton Sterling "Protest the Right Way"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/alton-sterling-son-cameron-father-police-shooting-death-dallas-ambush/

"I really want everyone to know, everyone nationwide, everyone in this world, to know that Alton Sterling was a good man," [C] told CBS News correspondent David Begnaud. "No matter what anyone else has to say about him, truly in my heart, I know he was a good dad."

"But what I want, what I ask if you truly love my father, I truly just want everyone to protest the right way -- protesting in peace. Not in violence," [C] said. "Not beating the police, not police beating the people. That makes no sense. That make things worse. You have to make things better by making peace."
 
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Well its sort of refreshing to note that he at least acknowledges that protesters have been out of control...
 
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I'm sure he loved his father and will miss him.
 
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I am so angry that Obama brought up AS in Dallas!!! What a total slap in the face!!!
 
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Cameron is a fifteen year old that is truely hurting by his fathers death. Why can't people that are using his dad's death as a reason for violence see that they are only making it worse for ones like Cameron?
I wish only the best for Cameron.
 
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Convicted sex offender, gang banger with a gun.

That is all.

MOO!
So he deserved to be shot to death?

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Just wanted to point out that in the linked article, the store owner states the victim was a friend of his, that he didn't brandish a gun and that there was no altercation until the cops began tasering him. Perhaps if the police had remained calm and discussed their concerns, things wouldn't have escalated. Perhaps they should have interviewed the store owner before escalating the situation.



The store owner was there and witnessed everything. He knew the victim, was friends with him.

ETA: What I would like to know is why they felt they needed to wrestle with the victim. If they arrived and the victim was there peacefully doing business, not brandishing a gun, what was the problem? Talk to the store owner, see what he says. Maybe conclude the person who called 911 was a disgruntled customer or someone trying to rob the victim.
I have no problem believing this. I am a woman of color. I grew up in a mostly white suburban area, with a lot of money. The worst thing I did growing up was get a couple of C's on my report card. One night I was in another part of town that I was unfamiliar with. I was 19, and home from college on holiday break. I was driving to this part of town, to see a friend from school. I got lost, and it was dark outside. I wanted to call for directions, so I pulled into a random parking lot, and parked my car. As I made the phone call, I was stunned to see lights flashing all around me. My car was registered and insured, I had a valid license and no record whatsoever. Before any of the officers spoke to me, there were 4-6 guns pointed at me. It was so traumatizing that I don't really remember (I was 100% sober) how we got from guns to conversation, but through tears, I asked what I had done. They checked my paperwork, etc., and then told me that my lights were off. I WAS PARKED. IN A LEGAL PARKING SPOT.
I just wanted to share this because, I have personally experienced the police coming at me, for no valid reason, guns drawn before one word was spoken. I'm quite sure that if I had gotten pissed off and said something like, "What the hell?" they would have likely shot me. It's not illegal to be incredulous at how you're approached by law enforcement. I prefer to always be respectful, meek, even. But it's not unlawful for someone to be irritated at how they're approached. When LE approaches a situation in such a manner, they are escalating the situation before it has begun. I don't know how this event began. But I can believe that they escalated things. It's likely that flight or flight kicked in for Alton.
I know he has quite a record. I also *think* he did his time. And I'm still looking for the link, but I read that he was an RSO because he started dating his wife when she wasn't yet of age. That's quite different than a child molester. Either way, it's disgusting to me that people immediately try to dig up a record and justify a man being held down by two men and shot to death.

I have many stories of being profiled, but I can also say that I respect law enforcement. I think the majority are truly there to protect and serve their community. Most of my interactions with them have been positive. They saved my life at one point. However, just like in any profession, there are some that shouldn't be in their position. It's a bit more problematic when it's police, because they have so much power.

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This is the life that is supposed to matter so much that officers shouldn't have shot him and maybe one of them would have died? Um, not in the world I want to live in.

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I find this to be disgusting! For example, the Rhoden family. They were into all sorts of craziness that was against the law. We saw some of it just looking through social media. But no one said they deserved to die.

I think this situation could have gone down much differently, with Sterling arrested and two safe officers returning to their respective families.
 

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