Identified! LA - Slidell (Rigolets), WhtMale 70-80, UP53214, Severed limbs, open-heart bypass surgery, Jul'16 - Kleanthis Konstantinidis

[djanga]

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The DNA Doe Project needs YOUR help! Do you recognize St. Tammany Parish John Doe (2016) or have roots in any of the following locations? Do you have any of these surnames in your own family tree? Turkey
Locations: Alaçatı/Alatsata, Istanbul
Surnames: Samiotes, Vasilakis, Stamatakis, Charouhas & Pagavla
Greece
Locations: Andros, Piraeus, Alexandroupoli, Chios
Surnames: Roussas, Drougas & Thoma
Romania & Moldova
Location: Bucharest & Transylvania
Surnames: Luca & Pipa
Italy – Locana (Piedmont) & Veneto Region (Venice)
France – Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes

He also has some matches with roots in England and Germany, and his highest match (38.8cMs) has family in Suffolk County, Massachusetts. All other matches are under 30cMs.

We believe that St Tammany Parish John Doe (2016) may have been a recent immigrant from Turkey or Greece, or that his parents may have immigrated. The matches that we have to work with are very distant and located in countries where the records are scarce, making this case one of our most challenging.

His ethnicity breakdown is as follows:
• 23% Eastern Mediterranean (East_Med): Croatia, the Balkan countries, Greece and Turkey, and Italy.
• 22% North Atlantic: Great Britain, Ireland, Iceland, Western Scandinavia, Northern Germany, The Netherlands, and Belgium.
• 20% Western Mediterranean (West_Med): Monaco, Spain, France, and Italy
• 16% West Asian: Western sub-region of Asia, including the Caucasus.
• 15% Baltic: Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.
• 2% Red Sea: The Gulf of Aqaba and the Gulf of Suez. Eastern shore: Saudi Arabia, Yemen. Western shore: Egypt, Sudan, Eritrea, and Djibouti.
• 2% East Asian: Mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau, Japan, Mongolia, North Korea, South Korea, and Taiwan.
If you are interested in helping, consider uploading your DNA kit to GEDmatch and/or FamilyTreeDNA but be sure to read the company’s TOS and be cognizant that uploading to a different database may produce unexpected results. Also, having a public family tree is extremely helpful but only share one if you feel comfortable doing so.

Please do NOT contact the agency with kit numbers or family history, ONLY witahctual tips about John Doe himself. If you think you might be related, please know that we can see matches and will be able to see your kit if you are indeed a match to our Doe.

For more information on this case, and images, please visit:
• St. Tammany Parish John Doe (2016)
• The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
If you’d have any questions, please feel free to email us at [email protected].

Thank you so much for your attention and participation!

So he is indeed Greek as the DDP thinks he/his family can be recent immigrants either from Turkey or Greece.

The region in Turkey he is linked to is historically related to Greeks, his ancestors will probably speak only Greek as till 1920 Alaçatı was populated exclusively with Greeks. He has ties to the Massachusetts Greek community, which is the largest Greek community in the USA (according to Wiki there are around 11 000 Greeks). The last names care pretty common Greek family names and as he probably was not reported missing, it can be very difficult to identify him ... But I think it should be shared among Greek community in Massachusetts, he could have been estranged but Greeks usually have big families and somebody will recognize him.

 

[djanga]

I found a very cool facebook page about the immigration of Ottoman Greeks (Greeks from Turkey) to the USA, so most of them immigrated between 1904-1924, everything on this page is consistent with the information we have, the majority of Ottoman Greeks came from Izmir region (Alaçati village is located in this region) and Istanbul and top one destination was Boston.

Ottoman Greeks of the United States 1904-1924

 

[bombardier]

+bump
Don't know if this is new or not but his NamUs page now reflects an age of 70 - 80 y/o. He still has no rule-outs.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

St Tammany Parish John Doe - DNA Doe Project Cases

 

[Hochman]

I tried to do a reskin of the clay approximation.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Case #16-44​

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Date found:	2016-07-29
PMI:	<6 months
Location:	Slidell, Saint Tammany Parish, Louisiana
Est. age at death:	70 to 80
Sex:	male
Race:	White
Height:	70 inches
Scar:	Yes
Dental Records:	Available
DNA Records:	Available
FACES Case #:	16-44
Agency Case #:	ST-4459-16
Alt. Case #:	U310029075
Agency:	St. Tammany Parish Coroner's Office
Agency Phone:	985-781-1150

Identifying features
Previous open heart bypass surgery (scar)
Additional details
Discovered along the side of US-90 in rural St. Tammany Parish.
Contact us
If you have any information concerning this case please contact the FACES Lab.
Teresa Wilson, Assistant Research Professor, LSU - (225) 578-4761
Maria Allaire, Research Associate, LSU - (225) 578-4775

- LA Repository for Unidentified & Missing People

 

[carbuff]

Since I'm in the Boston area, I put his DNA Doe listing on my Twitter.

 

[iulia]

His NamUs page has been removed and he is marked as identified on LSU.

- LA Repository for Unidentified & Missing People

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

His NamUs page has been removed and he is marked as identified on LSU.

Finally!

 

[YaYa_521]

So glad to see he has his name back.
Rest in peace, sir.

 

[YaYa_521]

Discovery of a dismembered foot in Mississippi leads to break in Louisiana cold case

More than five years after a dismembered, decomposing body was found on the North Shore, a chilling discovery of a human foot in Mississippi has led detectives to identify the victim.

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On Friday (Oct. 7), St. Tammany Parish Sheriff Randy Smith confirmed that the victim in the homicide investigation as a man named Kleanthis Konstantinidis. Back in July of 2016, a passerby found Konstantinidis’ body in the Rigolets along U.S. 90.

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However, it wasn’t until a shocking discovery during a natural death investigation in Mississippi that brought new light to the investigation. [snip] During that investigation, police learned that a human foot had been discovered in a bucket on Pointer’s property. [snip] DNA from the foot was matched to the body dumped in the Rigolets almost three years before. [snip] A DNA sample from the relative compared to the victim confirmed that the body belonged to Konstantinidis. [snip] So now, the question that still remains is…Was Phillip Pointer involved?

# More at link

Rest in peace, Kleanthis.

 

[YaYa_521]

Article from St. Tammany's Parish Sheriff's Office webpage.

Victim Identified in St. Tammany Cold Case

In working with their partners with the St. Tammany Parish Coroner’s Office DNA Lab and the DNA Doe Project, St. Tammany Parish Sheriff’s detectives have positively identified the victim in a 2016 homicide investigation. In July 2016, the St. Tammany Parish Sheriff’s Office was notified by a...

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In working with their partners with the St. Tammany Parish Coroner’s Office DNA Lab and the DNA Doe Project, St. Tammany Parish Sheriff’s detectives have positively identified the victim in a 2016 homicide investigation.

In July 2016, the St. Tammany Parish Sheriff’s Office was notified by a passerby of a badly decomposed body, which was found on Highway 90, just east of the intersection of Highway 433. Both of the victim’s arms were dismembered, along with one of his legs (just below the knee). An autopsy, conducted by the St. Tammany Parish Coroner’s Office, determined that the body was that of a male who was approximately 5’10” tall and approximately 65 years of age or older. His death was ruled a homicide with the cause of death being blunt force trauma to the head. Due to the level of decomposition, age and race were unable to be determined at that time.

The St. Tammany Parish Coroner’s Office was able to obtain a DNA profile for investigators, and that information was sent to Parabon NanoLabs, which specializes in DNA phenotyping. A sketch was developed of what they felt, based on their advanced DNA testing, the victim may have looked like, and that sketch was disseminated to the media in 2016.

Over the course of the next several years, STPSO detectives investigated several leads in an attempt to identify the victim, all of which resulted in no positive results.

In April 2019, while conducting a natural death investigation in Mississippi, detectives with the Biloxi Police Department were made aware of a human foot located in a bucket on the property of the recently deceased individual. After DNA connected that foot to DNA on file for the body found in St. Tammany Parish in 2016, detectives with the Biloxi Police Department contacted St. Tammany detectives.

After countless hours of investigation, which included conducting numerous interviews and combing over a large amount evidence, St. Tammany Parish Sheriff’s detectives, thanks to assistance they received from the LSU FACES Lab, the non-profit DNA Doe Project and the Biloxi Police Department, were able to establish what they believed was a positive identification of their victim.

Detectives were able to identify a relative living in the northern United States, and that relative provided a DNA sample to the St. Tammany Parish Sheriff’s Office. At which time, the St. Tammany Parish Coroner’s Office DNA lab compared the two DNA samples and positively identified the victim as Kleanthis Konstantinidis.

During the course of the continued investigation, STPSO detectives were able to establish Phillip Pointer, who was the deceased individual in Biloxi Police’s 2019 death investigation, as the primary suspect in Konstantinidis’ death.

St. Tammany Parish Sheriff’s detectives are continuing their investigation and are working with their law enforcement partners in Mississippi and the St. Tammany Parish Coroners DNA lab to determine the location of the homicide.

“I applaud our investigators who worked this very complicated case and sought out available resources and technology to identify the victim,” Sheriff Randy Smith said. “I am thankful for the cooperation between our detectives, the St. Tammany Coroner’s Office DNA Lab, the LSU FACES Lab, the DNA Doe Project, Parabon NanoLabs and the Biloxi Police Department. They all played a role in identifying our victim and locating his next of kin.”

 

[victoriarobinson642]

I've found a few records of a man with that name living in Ohio who would've been about 71 in 2016. I wonder how he ended up in Louisiana.

 

[djanga]

I've found a few records of a man with that name living in Ohio who would've been about 71 in 2016. I wonder how he ended up in Louisiana.

He indeed was from Ohio (I also found records about Kleanthis (“Kleo”).

There is a new article with a few more details mentioning a relative in the Northern State

Discovery of severed foot on dead Mississippi man's property leads to break in 2016 Louisiana cold case - Magnolia State Live

The discovery of human foot in possession of a dead Mississippi man has led to a break in a 2016 Louisiana cold-case. In working with their partners with the St. Tammany Parish Coroner’s Office DNA Lab and the DNA Doe Project, St. Tammany Parish Sheriff’s detectives have positively identified...

www.magnoliastatelive.com

After countless hours of investigation, which included conducting numerous interviews and combing over a large amount evidence, St. Tammany Parish Sheriff’s detectives, thanks to assistance they received from the LSU FACES Lab, the non-profit DNA Doe Project and the Biloxi Police Department, were able to establish what they believed was a positive identification of their victim.

Detectives were able to identify a relative living in the northern United States, and that relative provided a DNA sample to the St. Tammany Parish Sheriff’s Office. At which time, the St. Tammany Parish Coroner’s Office DNA lab compared the two DNA samples and positively identified the victim as Kleanthis Konstantinidis.

 

[MarziPanda]

I'm still a little confused as to how the discovery of the leg led to him being identified. I know there was speculation that the leg was cut off because of a tattoo or other identifying mark, but I would think the leg wouldn't have skin on after all this time? Plus I don't think Konstantinidis would have been reported missing, since a missing Greek man of that age is exactly who they were looking to match with the Doe.

My other thought was that perhaps Pointer was known to have been living with Konstantinidis or to have been otherwise close to him, and when Pointer was found dead someone realised they hadn't seen Konstantinidis for a long time.