Identified! LA - Slidell, WhtFem 20-30, UP852, Breast Implants, Pregnant Jun'86 Pamela Lee Hupp

[Deeds]

Fawn M Abell:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2924dfok.html

 

[webrocket]

for ease of access I am posting the Namus link for this UID:

https://identifyus.org/cases/852

there are now 8 rule-outs:

Carol Donn 1963 Florida
Hazel Klug 1962 Virginia
Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia
Lisa Sexton 1966 Ohio
Sally Stone 1964 Idaho
Nadine Timm 1935 Illinois
Joyce Walcott 1967 California
April Zane 1960 Illinois

 

[webrocket]

there is one missing woman who seems to fit a number of the parameters and that is Judy Worrell. time and place are off and she did not have breast implants or a fractured hip as of 1981 but who knows?

as per Judy's Namus profile, she was 24 when last seen in 1981 in California, was 5'4", between 115 and 125 lbs, had auburn hair, had an abdominal scar from childhood surgery (unspecified), broke her right arm twice (the UID had a scar on her right wrist), and had broken a leg (unspecified which leg and no mention of a scar) while the UID had a scar on her right knee.

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/6910/2/

 

[Ms Suzanne]

There use to be a larger version of this Jane Does X ray of her teeth.Does any one have this or can make it bigger and clearer to see what her teeth looked like?

Under evidence/clues

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=30093

 

[nola]

Ms Suzanne,
Did you ever heard back from LA LE about your sister as a possible match? Tammy's face shape is so similar to this Jane Doe.

NamUs shows dentals for the Lake Pontchartrain JD as perfect without metal fillings. 3rd molars/wisdom teeth are missing (either extracted or non-existing). I noticed that Tammy's dentals are not charted in NamUs for comparison. I can understand your need to see the dentals for this Jane Doe. I have had some luck with LE sending me jpg files with dentals for their cases. Maybe LE will send you a copy of the dentals?

I pray that you get the answers that you need to locate and bring your sister home.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Ms Suzanne,
Did you ever heard back from LA LE about your sister as a possible match? Tammy's face shape is so similar to this Jane Doe.

NamUs shows dentals for the Lake Pontchartrain JD as perfect without metal fillings. 3rd molars/wisdom teeth are missing (either extracted or non-existing). I noticed that Tammy's dentals are not charted in NamUs for comparison. I can understand your need to see the dentals for this Jane Doe. I have had some luck with LE sending me jpg files with dentals for their cases. Maybe LE will send you a copy of the dentals?

I pray that you get the answers that you need to locate and bring your sister home.

Thank you.I have talked to them again.It might take awhile to hear some things back.Right now this Jane Doe has just been listed as nucDNA on her.It might not match my DNA for mtDNA.

 

[nola]

Thank you.I have talked to them again.It might take awhile to hear some things back.Right now this Jane Doe has just been listed as nucDNA on her.It might not match my DNA for mtDNA.

How frustrating! Wonder if they have the JD's mtDNA, but just haven't listed it? I hope that is true.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

How frustrating! Wonder if they have the JD's mtDNA, but just haven't listed it? I hope that is true.

They just listed this Jane Does nucDNA on NAMUS.

https://identifyus.org/cases/852

 

[Donjeta]

The exclusion list does not include Sally Reed
https://identifyus.org/cases/852

Carol Donn 1963 Florida
Hazel Klug 1962 Virginia
Hazel Klug 1962 Virginia
Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia
Lisa Sexton 1966 Ohio
Sally Stone 1964 Idaho
Nadine Timm 1935 Illinois
Joyce Walcott 1967 California
April Zane 1960 Illinois

Sallie Reed's Namus
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/4188/5/

They have her fingerprint information but it's unknown if Jane Doe's fingerprints were taken. They have Jane Doe's dentals but not Sallie's. They have Jane Doe's DNA but not Sallie's. Yet, it says initial inquiry is under way so maybe there is hope.

 

[Irish_Eyes]

Here's a missing woman from Louisiana just added today to NamUs:

Dora Elizabeth Carson
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/10986/9

Almost nothing is known about her vital stats or circumstances of disappearance. But she has red hair like LPJD, is the right age, and has a roughly similar facial shape.

Carl, I was looking on NAMUS and I had put these two together also...then I came here to see if anyone had suggested her. There is another black and white picture that I believe is an actual picture (not the front view, but the side), and I thought that picture somewhat resembled Dora. Not to mention that Dora is from Louisiana, so it would seem logical to find her there. Dora's family last saw her "sometime" in 1983, and Jane Doe was found in January 1985....take a look at the other pic and tell me what you think.

https://identifyus.org/cases/8675

 

[webrocket]

Carl, I was looking on NAMUS and I had put these two together also...then I came here to see if anyone had suggested her. There is another black and white picture that I believe is an actual picture (not the front view, but the side), and I thought that picture somewhat resembled Dora. Not to mention that Dora is from Louisiana, so it would seem logical to find her there. Dora's family last saw her "sometime" in 1983, and Jane Doe was found in January 1985....take a look at the other pic and tell me what you think.

https://identifyus.org/cases/8675

the link you provided is for a UID in Mississippi.

 

[Irish_Eyes]

the link you provided is for a UID in Mississippi.

So it is...sometimes I get so confused when I have so many links open....I'm going to redo my post. Thanks for the heads up!

 

[Ms Suzanne]

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She also had a 2-inch long scar on her abdomen above her navel.


I'm very interested what do you think could have caused this scar on her?

 

[nola]

I'm not a medical professional, but here are my thoughts about the 2 inch scar above her navel:
Umbilical Hernia Repair
Laparoscopy for endometriosis
Exploratory surgery
Tummy Tuck (removal of excess skin following excessive weight loss) or liposuction
Mole or skin cancer removal
Probably other possible reasons for this scar that I haven't considered as well.

With the amount of cosmetic surgery this young lady may have undergone, it is perhaps no wonder that no family member has recognized her as she appeared in 1986.

 

[chaddylex]

They also added another rule out on this UID Mary Shinn who was missing from Arkansas in 1978. Here is her Charley Project profile http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/shinn_mary.html

 

[believe09]

I just finished reading a book by Ron Franscell titled "Delivered From Evil." It is about survivors of serial killers, mass murders etc.

The chapter I just finished was on Derrick Todd Lee. This case really reads like a Lee victim. He would have been 18 years old.

Derrick Todd Lee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[CarlK90245]

New DoeNet casefile. She's been in NamUs for a while, but her casefile was "no-photo" until recently.

Debra A. Cressotti

DoeNetwork Case 3100UMLA http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3100dfma.html
NamUs UP Case 11224 https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/11224/0


There are a lot of question marks here. She is a little off on height (though not excessively). Her hair is darker than LPJD's description, but her casefile indicates that she sometimes dyes her hair blonde. She is the right age, and she has a very similar facial shape to the recon above. No indication of whether she has breast implants.

She was last seen April 30, 1985, and her vehicle was left at the Bradley Airport in Connecticut. This is a little more than a year before LPJD was found (i.e., June 19, 1986).

The possible connection that caught my attention is that she broke her pelvis in a horseback riding accident. The physical description of LPJD indicates "Antemortem trauma noted with the iliopubic and ischiopubic rami depressed posteriorly. " (in layman's terms, these are healed pelvic injuries).

She also has a scar on her right knee, just as LPJD does.

And maybe it's my imagination, but her nose in the red hoodie photo seems a little bigger than her nose in the black halter-top photo. They say that LPJD might have had a nose job.

LPJD's UID Links:
DoeNetwork 16UFLA http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/16ufla.html
NamUs UP Case 852 https://identifyus.org/cases/852

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Has anyone talked to them about who they are looking into as a possible match lately on this Jane Doe or what's going on with her case?

 

[CarlK90245]

Has anyone talked to them about who they are looking into as a possible match lately on this Jane Doe or what's going on with her case?

I left a voicemail message with Mary Manheim, and I will ask her that if she replies tomorrow.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I left a voicemail message with Mary Manheim, and I will ask her that if she replies tomorrow.

Thank you.