Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

[PoppyH]

Last year I finally admitted I couldn't tame my yard, so I hired a landscaper. Although we have had a good working relationship and he's quite approachable, I can't imagine just walking up one day and saying, "I'd like azaleas here and rhododendrons there and oh by the way, how much extra would you charge to kill my husband?"

Yup, Plant the Roses, and oh by the way, when you are done, please plant my husband:banghead:

 

[Shutterfly]

Maybe Terri is not the one who wanted a divorce. Maybe Kaine wanted a divorce and Terri was afraid he'd take the baby, the house, the money, the car and everything else. From the body language at the press conferences, Kaine is the one who wanted nothing to do with Terri, no matter how much she tried to cling to him.

Maybe she figured she'd kill him before she allowed him to divorce her and take everything. Maybe Kyron saw/heard something he was not supposed to see/hear.

Maybe landscaper guy has some kind of record or history that made Terri believe he'd be open to a murder for hire plot. Maybe she was just desperate and asked more than one person to help her.

I think TH believed KaH was going to go back to DY and possibly that he was unfaithful with DY. I predict TY will be the next one distancing himself from this catastrophic nightmare......jmo.

Kinda funny, two marriages that seem to fall apart surrounding a pregnancy. DY filed for divorce when she was eight months pregnant. TH was allegedly trying to have KaH off'ed when her baby was about a year old, which means there must have been problems prior to that. I'm gonna one up it and guess TH got pregnant on purpose, trying to save her marriage and hang onto KaH.

If TH believed KaH was going to go back to DY, it manifests a perfect storm. What better way to punish both KaH and DY permanently for "depriving TH of everything she has." Poof, KyH gone....and TH has all the power to make their lives miserable like she thinks they made hers.

Do I believe anyone else is responsible? No, not directly, but something leads a person to do this if they aren't mentally derranged, and I don't believe she is. I do believe that TH knows exactly where KyH is because I believe she put him where he is.

I wonder who's taking care of that precious little red haired baby now? I'd almost be willing to bet it's DY.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Maybe the landscaper said no, and Terri told him she was just joking, and he believed her.

If someone asked me to kill another person for them, I would be shocked to be asked and shocked that anyone would want to hire a killer.

I would dither around about whether to call LE. I might decide that the inquirer was joking and not do that. It is just so far outside my frame of reference that anyone I know would be serious about hiring a killer and that they would approach me.

BUT when I found out something like Kyron going missing happened, I'd contact LE that instant!

Edited to add: On second thought, since I would tell my husband (I tell him everything), I know for sure he would go directly to LE himself if I didn't agree to it. And he'd come with me to the police station. He doesn't dither.

I totally agree with this. Many people would think long and hard before getting involved with LE over something that sounded so bizarre - besides, for all we know this guy had had dealings with LE in the past that made him reluctant to get involved with them again.

BUT - you are correct - I get hung up, as well, on not reporting this when Kryon's case hit the media. In light of that, it surely must have seemed significant.


ETA: Then again, I think a lot of people would think twice about contacting LE in any case, no matter what. This story came out at 4am, and on this thread we already have the guy indicted, so I don't know if I blame people for not wanting to get involved with things. The bigger the case the more invasive the spotlight on your life, no matter how involved you are. MOO.

 

[Bathbuddys]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/landscaper_tells_police_terri.html

Of course this comes out at 4:00 in the morning and no one is around to talk to about it!
This answers the questions as to why the restraining order. It also says that Kaine was not home when 911 was called last week.
I don't know if it's true or not but it sure raises more questions then ever. If it is true then Terri is much more unstable then previously thought. And why would she want to get rid of Kaine? I dismissed the specuation that she was having an affair but this really opens up that possibility. And why would she get rid of Kyron if it was Kaine that she wanted to eliminate? Can this situation get any stranger?

Oh my why get rid of Kyron?, to hurt Kaine more than anything could. That is the ultimate cause of pain to a parent, just like the inmate did to her mother Cindy.

 

[bessie]

We do not know who the source is for this information. The whole article is amazingly unsourced, isn't it? The paper reports that LE told dad and mom this information shortly before he left Terri, but the paper does not say who told THEM.

respectfully snipped

Journalists don't have to reveal their sources. The Oregonian is a mainstream news outlet that has been around for 160 years and is the most widely circulated daily newpaper in Oregon.
[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oregonian[/ame]

I, personally, am confident in their credibility in reporting on this incident with the landscaper, and can't imagine that they would risk that credibility by reporting such a "bombshell" without completing the requisite fact-checking.
MOO...MOO

 

[RoughlyCollie]

Is "landscaper" what they have in Oregon instead of pool boys?

:waitasec:We used to call today's landscaper "the yard man" in the South.

Oh, I just got what you were saying. Very clever.

 

[Emeralgem]

Hmmm....VERY good point when you think back to the aftermath media coverage of this reporter showing up at house. Reporter was doing interviews all over repeatedly making reference to the fact that he and Terri ONLY talked about the landscaping....even went into detail about a particular patch of grass in yard that remained uncut and he questioned her if she was planning on making a garden in that area...thought it was odd at the time....but YOU are now making a lot of sense!!!

I thought it was odd too..Now I suspect that is one of the reasons Kaine requested the WW leave the press conference if the Oregonian was attempting to leak out information The Team wanted kept under wraps..
Also, If all this is true wonder IF Terri became suspicious when the WW reporter questioned her about the upkeep of the lawn.. JMO

 

[helpfulcharlie]

"EVERYTHING IS GOOD!"

Terri Horman June 28, 2010

LOL, the Portland Minister of Information

 

[bessie]

No, because the "landscaper" wasn't actually doing it.

Maybe that question popped out at me because I'm having an argument with my husband. I want him to do a few things to help me get ready for a party we're going to later (so I can spend a little more time on WS), and he says he can't because he has to cut the grass.

I might have to hire one of them "landscapers", myself.

 

[RoughlyCollie]

ETA: Then again, I think a lot of people would think twice about contacting LE in any case, no matter what. This story came out at 4am, and on this thread we already have the guy indicted, so I don't know if I blame people for not wanting to get involved with things. The bigger the case the more invasive the spotlight on your life, no matter how involved you are. MOO.

That's a real good point.

 

[oxymoran]

The Oregonian story has already been updated since it was originally published at 4am. Did anyone save a copy of the 4am version?...it would interesting to compare it to the new 8am version.

 

[debirlfan]

I can see a couple possible reasons why TH might ask the landscaper - and a few reasons why he might keep quiet.

1. The most obvious - he's illegal.
2. Perhaps she had hired him because he had been out rapping on doors and looking for work - and mentioned being desperate (ie, out of work, loosing his house, etc.)
3. She knew he was involved in something else illegal (selling drugs/steroids, tried to sell her some stolen merchandise, she caught him trying to steal something from her, etc.)

 

[stmarysmead]

We know for a fact that Terri Horman has been divorced twice before. So she has expertise in leaving a marriage without having to murder.

She has left the first marriage with her child, and the second with a man she let adopt her child. So she has expertise in how to get custody.

If she wants revenge, taking the little girl and leaving him to have to care for his son alone, would no doubt cause some hurt and disruption to Kaine. She knows THAT from her past as well.

So, if this accusation of a murder plot is true, what is different that Terri needs to murder to get out of this marriage? Or murder to "get revenge?"

Well, she might want money this time. The last divorce left her so poor she had to move in as a babysitter for a friend's child to get a roof over her head. She may not want THAT again.


Or she might want to keep both children. Murdering her husband might be the only way she gets to keep Kyron.


So when the murder for hire falls through, she goes to plan B.

Either stash Kyron, if this is about the kids, and then file for divorce.

Or, if her motive is revenge and only revenge...kill her husband's only child. Then file for divorce, because with only himself to support, Kaine might have to provide her and her child a larger settlement.

By the way, I agree, the no matter how obnoxious anyone thinks Kaine is...because his his demeanor at press conferences...the only indications we have seen of the possibility for real evil...has been in the alleged actions of Terri.

 

[RoughlyCollie]

he says he can't because he has to cut the grass.

Tell him you'll let him live if he cuts the grass.

My husband usually humors me when I say something like that.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

That's a real good point.

I just have real concerns about what effects the 24 hour media and the internet are having and will have on potential witnesses. It's to the point where even I, with as much respect as I have for LE, would take a moment to count my skeletons before I spoke up.

 

[BeanE]

Investigators: No comment on Horman murder-for-hire accusations
Paper says Terri Horman plotted to kill husband
The Portland Tribune, Jul 4, 2010, Updated 28 minutes ago

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=127825632045084200

 

[KaylynnCouture]

I can see a couple possible reasons why TH might ask the landscaper - and a few reasons why he might keep quiet.

1. The most obvious - he's illegal.
2. Perhaps she had hired him because he had been out rapping on doors and looking for work - and mentioned being desperate (ie, out of work, loosing his house, etc.)
3. She knew he was involved in something else illegal (selling drugs/steroids, tried to sell her some stolen merchandise, she caught him trying to steal something from her, etc.)

4. He has a rap sheet with the law/bad history with police.
5. He was actually planning on taking her up on the hit man offer, but hasn't had the chance yet/doesn't have the down payment/etc.
6. He thought she was joking, so he never thought to contact LE.
7. She paid him to keep quiet.
8. She threatened him to keep quiet.

 

[darlin gal]

Investigators are declining to confirm or deny published accusations that Terri Horman tried to hire someone to kill her husband seven or so months ago.
"The Multnomah County Sheriffs Office has no comment," Lt. Mary Lindstrand, the office's public information officer, told the Portland Tribune.


http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=127825632045084200

 

[bessie]

I can see a couple possible reasons why TH might ask the landscaper - and a few reasons why he might keep quiet.

1. The most obvious - he's illegal.
2. Perhaps she had hired him because he had been out rapping on doors and looking for work - and mentioned being desperate (ie, out of work, loosing his house, etc.)
3. She knew he was involved in something else illegal (selling drugs/steroids, tried to sell her some stolen merchandise, she caught him trying to steal something from her, etc.)

My first thought was that he kept quiet because he's illegal. But here's something I overlooked in my first read that sheds light on how she found him:

She reportedly offered the landscaper, who advertises his expertise in lawn care, a large sum of money to carry out the scheme, sources say.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/landscaper_tells_police_terri.html

 

[WhyaDuck?]

I can see a couple possible reasons why TH might ask the landscaper - and a few reasons why he might keep quiet.

1. The most obvious - he's illegal.
2. Perhaps she had hired him because he had been out rapping on doors and looking for work - and mentioned being desperate (ie, out of work, loosing his house, etc.)
3. She knew he was involved in something else illegal (selling drugs/steroids, tried to sell her some stolen merchandise, she caught him trying to steal something from her, etc.)

Maybe also skuttlebutt - he might be the neighbour or friend of a friend of a friend, and she heard a rumour of something or other.

If they weren't lovers, it was still an awful risk to take.