Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

[Ms Suzanne]

Yes, LE came across him in interviewing those associated with the family. He could have easily not mentioned anything about it since nothing ever came to be, but instead chose to be honest, therefore injecting himself and his business to public scrutiny. As a business owner myself, I can't see someone doing that if what they are saying isn't true...especially since it means associating himself with TH, who is not a very popular person right now.

I realize, it's the honest thing to do, but I can't see what he would have to gain by making something like this up?

I'm very very curious who associated with this family or family said something.He's honest a few months later? Honestly I would be so bothered by this if someone just asked me to kill thier spouse or someone.I would have called the police.This would really bother me.Something is very not right here.It does get me to look at other persons of interest here.

 

[krowdkat]

I do not have an answer for you, nor do I know that h interjected himself. MAYBE he was just one of the people interviewd - someone close to the house who would see things and knows the child.
I think if there was merit to his story, he would have gone to LE when it happend. Why is he telling the story now? :waitasec:

I think he (landscaper) told the story to LE more than a week ago. Maybe even as soon as a week after Kyron went missing. LE has kept things very close to the vest.

Only recently did KH file for divorce and RO.

It makes sense the LE has stated the public shouldn't be alarmed for their childrens' safety. Now it seems LE has informed KH that he should be concerned for his children. I don't see any other way to interpret it.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

OMG and what a statement THAT is!!~!!

I honestly can't remember waking up to news on the internet such as this and being so flabbergasted, seriously.

This is a conniving husband and I am completely floored by this new developement.

Poor Kaine, even if he is a horrible husband, no person deserves to lose his child and then find out his wife wanted HIM killed. I really feel for what he is going through.

Also, whats he weather around Portland In January, isn't it cold and snowy, etc? Why call a landscaper at that time of year, unless its for snow removal?

Depends on how windy it is, and what kind of debris/tree damage, etc, is done. There's always cleanup to do in a yard, whether it be snow, grass, etc.

 

[roseofsharon]

This is so weirdly NOT unheard of. There have been quite a few cases where someone approached a painter, yard guy, handyman, or similar worker and asked if either they could do, or knew someone they could contact to do a murder for hire (of husband, wife, son-in-law).

I am always totally shocked by that, because (1) the person asking for the service is some otherwise seemingly normal person, (2) why would someone assume that these people would be or know murderers, and (3) why would they assume they could trust them not to reveal their intentions.

In fact, many of the cases I have heard of, the person who was approached immediately went to cops, and that's how the person was caught (through a recorded set-up). It only makes me wonder how often this happens and no one does tell, or they really do commit the crime.

Just MOO, but mostly only in Hollywood -- movie set!

 

[grandmaj]

While we allowed posters to comment that "maybe" steroids could be involved, it is getting to the point that many think it is a fact now. Plus, it is totally a generalizing comment that could include all body builders. I have family members who are into body building and fitness who do NOT use steroids. Unless someone can back up steroid use in this case, please refrain from using it as a basis for behavior. It is becoming a rumor at this point.

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[sofia76]

I do not know what he has to gain....He should have gone to LE long ago, WHAT DID HE HAVE TO LOSE???
They are not deporting the illegals so what was he waiting for? IF SHE DID ask him to murder her husband? What was he doing still working for her? Why would he be working for a potential murderer? He knew that finger can point to him if anything did happen? Why didn't he run after that strange request?
I do not believe it...This case has many twists, and it seems Terry is getting the worst part of it all.

Sorry, but illegal immigrants are absolutely being deported. I know of someone who was deported just a few months ago from Portland. He'd been in the country since he was a child (20 years) but his papers didn't get renewed for whatever reason, and he is back in a country where he has a 7 year old's grasp of the language, no job, and no family (his parents and most extended family all live in the US). And this guy has a BS in engineering from an American university.

In any case, I don't know if the landscaper is an immigrant. He could be Joe Bob from Banks who just doesn't like to deal with the police.

Can you point to where it says he continued to work for her after she allegedly made the request?

 

[sofia76]

Depends on how windy it is, and what kind of debris/tree damage, etc, is done. There's always cleanup to do in a yard, whether it be snow, grass, etc.

Yep. Not to mention, the weather in Portland is pretty mild year round, so things can get pretty out of control even in the winter. I've had my landscaper out in the winter months ... cleaning up, or trimming bushes, etc. Sometimes you also don't get around to doing that stuff at the end of the summer, and it can be faster and cheaper to schedule someone in the slow months.

 

[SuziQ]

Well if the landscaper stayed quiet because he is illegal, he's proving right the concerns of LE all over the US. LE is concerned that crime will grow because illegals will be afraid of reporting it. Many LE also complain they are going to lose many of their informants.

 

[Noway]

Wow! Wow! and Wow again!

 

[Reannan]

Where can I find this picture? TIA

Was this the picture??

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Well if the landscaper stayed quiet because he is illegal, he's proving right the concerns of LE all over the US. LE is concerned that crime will grow because illegals will be afraid of reporting it. Many LE also complain they are going to lose many of their informants.

IMO, you certainly don't have to be illegal to worry that reporting things will be more trouble than it's worth.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

You just never know. One of my classmates in LAW school was going through a messy divorce and she was busted and prosecuted for hiring someone to off her husband, right in the middle of the semester. One day she was sitting in the student lounge talking about torts and the next she was on the front page being arrested. She did/may still be doing time. She was just an average middle-aged woman going back to school after the kiddos were gone. You'd think someone in her position surely would know better, but quite the opposite. It was a pretty clear case. She was busted when the person she hired went to LE. An undercover agent got involved and she was quickly caught red-handed. I can't remember whether it was in with a phone call or in person, but I'm thinking it was a phone call involving the undercover agent.

I think it speaks volumes to me the step mom Terri is not arrested right now for this(this accusation from the land scaper).Something is not right with this story.

 

[JBean]

Please let's not get into an illegal alien debate. There is enough going on already.


Please read the[ame=http://warof2010.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2]warof2010's posts[/ame] for the latest information on the border situation,but let's not do it here.


thanks

 

[Haeve]

I can think of at least 2 reasons why a landscaper might not want to rat Terri out:

- he may be an illegal alien. Many landscapers are from South America.
- he may not have a license and/or insurance to do landscaping work. (I am unsure of the laws in his state/county, but many places require both)

In Oregon, most people who are in the state illegally are from Mexico and Central America, not South America.

Landscape contracting (i.e. building retaining walls, installing irrigation, etc.) is heavily regulated in Oregon:


http://www.oregon.gov/LCB/index.shtml


I'm not sure about mere landscaping (i.e. mowing, weeding, pruning), etc. I have a friend who is self-employed as a gardener/handyman, and I don't think he needs a license.

 

[easttexas]

Last year I finally admitted I couldn't tame my yard, so I hired a landscaper. Although we have had a good working relationship and he's quite approachable, I can't imagine just walking up one day and saying, "I'd like azaleas here and rhododendrons there and oh by the way, how much extra would you charge to kill my husband?"

O/T sorry but this cracked me up...as I was reading I just knew you were going to say oh by the way, how bout planting my husband right here!!

 

[PickieChickie]

:furious:If what this landscaper claims is true and Terrie Horman did offer to pay him to murder Kaine:
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Why didn't they report Terrie Horman to authorities immediately after she offered him money to murder Kaine Horman?

Why did it take law enforcement so long to find and interview the landscaper?

Why didn't the landscaper warn Kaine Horman about the fact Terrie wanted him dead?

If the landscaper was aware Kyron Horman was missing shortly after he disappeared and that Terrie Horman, the woman who approached him with an offer of money to murder her husband Kain Horman, why didn't he come forward of his own accord?

If Terrie hated Kaine so much as to want to pay someone to murder him, it is entirely possible she paid someone to murder Kyron or committed the murder herself.

If Terrie hated Kaine, she probably hated Kyron too and was really mean to him when Kaine wasn't around! :furious:

 

[stmarysmead]

I do not know what he has to gain....He should have gone to LE long ago, WHAT DID HE HAVE TO LOSE???
They are not deporting the illegals so what was he waiting for? IF SHE DID ask him to murder her husband? What was he doing still working for her? Why would he be working for a potential murderer? He knew that finger can point to him if anything did happen? Why didn't he run after that strange request?
I do not believe it...This case has many twists, and it seems Terry is getting the worst part of it all.

She is getting the worst of it because:

She was the last known person seen with a missing child

Her cell phone pings apparently do not match her story.

There is a witness claiming she tried to hire him as a hit man and he is credible enough that LS informed her husband, and credible enough that a judge granted a protective order that removed her baby from her to an unknown "safe house."

This we know to date.

Of all of these, the truthful rendition of where she was and what she did is entirely in her control and her responsibility. A child is endangered. There is no circumstance AT ALL where misleading LE about your whereabouts under these conditions is not outrageous.

No one else was the last person with Kyron. Apparently everyone else's story of their whereabouts has checked out. No one has come forward yet to claim anyone else tried to hire a hit man.

Those are some of the reasons why "she is getting the worst of it." How can it be otherwise?

 

[mrsu]

I do not know what he has to gain....He should have gone to LE long ago, WHAT DID HE HAVE TO LOSE???
They are not deporting the illegals so what was he waiting for? IF SHE DID ask him to murder her husband? What was he doing still working for her? Why would he be working for a potential murderer? He knew that finger can point to him if anything did happen? Why didn't he run after that strange request?
I do not believe it...This case has many twists, and it seems Terry is getting the worst part of it all.

Even if they aren't deporting illegals, the fear is very real for these people. I don't want to get into the politics of it all either, but he possibly has a family to support and children to feed and didn't want to chance that seeing as how nothing ever came to be. Perhaps he thought she wasn't serious? Perhaps she threatened him? Again, we do not know the whole story.

Also, nowhere have we read that he was still working for the family. Maybe he didn't associate with them anymore but his name came about as someone who had at one time associated with the family. If you look at the image of their house, as others speculated, it doesn't really look as if any "yard work" was actually done. Perhaps he was a landscaper, but really wasn't doing the "landscaping", if you know what I mean. *wink wink* If that's the case, and he does have a family, it could be another reason not to come forward.

IMO this case has too many "coincidences" (or twists) that point right back to Terri. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck.....or in this case, maybe if it looks like a squirrel...

 

[JBean]

well if she didn't hire him and didn't give him any money, what exactly would she be arrested for?

 

[Barry]

I think it speaks volumes to me the step mom Terri is not arrested right now for this.Something is not right with this story.

Hi, I wondered that too. I think it must be they're not arresting her, but keeping her on a short leash so that they can find out what happened to Kyron or where he is.