Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

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  • #421
Murder and mulchers. Why didn't we think of that?

What more to say? - the morning sleuthing shift here has said almost everything on my list already... explains LE tunnel vision...

what a leak! including the lawnboy working UC with the FBI ... and all press is running with it?

Terri's cake is baked with just this part of the story. Not sure we even wait for frosting...so what are they waiting for, I wonder?

Fork please!

I have to think this story would not have come out if LE believed Kyron was in an arranged kidnapping situation. It would endanger Kyron. (Unless they know with certainty he is in the care of a loved one somewhere, who Terri duped, and is on his way home.)

JMHO
 
  • #422
please let's not get into an illegal alien debate. There is enough going on already.


Please read the warof2010's posts for the latest information on the border situation,but let's not do it here. :)


thanks

bump............
 
  • #423
Just had a curious thought.....

Wasn't it reported that Terri hired this landscaper and supposively solicited him for "murder for hire" about 5 - 7 months ago?

Not sure since I live in the deep south, but weren't those of you living in the Portland area buried in snow about 5 - 7 months ago (approx Dec - Feb)??

No. Portland is rarely buried in snow, and we got very little last year. The Hormans are up in the hills a bit, and probably got more than those downtown, but they have about an acre, and even in winter there is work that can be done in a piece of property that size. Like tree trimming, adding bark dust, replacing rocks, fixing stone walls, etc. Landscapers do a lot more than plant flowers and mow grass.
 
  • #424
Well if the landscaper stayed quiet because he is illegal, he's proving right the concerns of LE all over the US. LE is concerned that crime will grow because illegals will be afraid of reporting it. Many LE also complain they are going to lose many of their informants.

Very true, SuziQ. Also, I don't know if any of you watch "The first 48" but, most times detectives (investigating homicide) don't really give a ratz azz if you use or deal drugs or even prostitute yourself, as long as you help them solve an investigation, they don't charge you with certain illegal activities. Their main focus is who done the deed.
 
  • #425
About the landscaper? I'm getting the impression that many are not reading the article before posting.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/landscaper_tells_police_terri.html

(snip)
After Kyron disappeared June 4, investigators with the county's Major Crimes Team tracked down the landscaper in the course of trying to interview everyone who had contact with the boy's family. They also found it odd that Terri Horman had hired a landscaper without her husband's knowledge.
First if I may please say.I think the article is BS.I don't believe it.Something is not right with this story.It's just not.Someone just said someone told LE about this landscaper.I'm not sure what happened.If someone find out the truth of what really happened please let us know ok?
 
  • #426
Portland's own favorite daughter, Tonya Harding, is doubtless the early favorite to play Terry Horman in the inevitable made-for-tv movie.

Both have the same initials...both obsessed with physical fitness...bodybuilder/professional wrestler ...both are about 40 years old ...both kinda some sort of blond...etc. etc etc
 
  • #427
Whew! I just breezed through this entire thread and all I can say is, "Wow!" I'm almost speechless, but in the words of Alice, I'll say that this case just gets "curiouser and curiouser." I'm beginning to feel like I ate a few of those funky mushrooms, or that Mad Hatter put "something" in my tea, KWIM? :D

Have a safe and happy Fourth of July!
 
  • #428
I think it speaks volumes to me the step mom Terri is not arrested right now for this.Something is not right with this story.

I'm sure she's not arrested b/c they couldn't get her to sink herself during the phone call. There are two major differences between this case and many others. First, a lot of time has passed since the original offer. Second, she is very aware that she is under intense scrutiny from the police, so it's not surprising that she wouldn't participate in a conversation that involved committing a (another?) crime. In the case of my classmate, she was in the middle of the plot when she was arrested and had no idea she was being investigated.

Doesn't mean TH is or isn't guilty, imo, just that they couldn't get the goods on her in the phone call. It may be that they never will if her dealings with the lawn dude were all verbal and its her word against his.
 
  • #429
IMO, you certainly don't have to be illegal to worry that reporting things will be more trouble than it's worth.

Ha! True, that. Although there will be some things that make some people more cautious. Also, quite frankly, I'd be a little frightened if someone tried to hire me to kill their spouse. Wouldn't I be a "loose end?"
 
  • #430
well if she didn't hire him and didn't give him any money, what exactly would she be arrested for?

c'mon JBean. that would require some research. and it's a federal holiday. :D

but does that mean the RO was not necessary either?
 
  • #431
well if she didn't hire him and didn't give him any money, what exactly would she be arrested for?

Solicitation of murder is a crime even if you don't go through with it. So is conspiracy.
 
  • #432
Just when I thought this case couldn't get any more bizarre.... IT DID !!!

IF this is true it's very disturbing. IMO it shows that TH is capable of contemplating murder......

All JMO
 
  • #433
You may be right. The landscaper said she offered him a large sum of money. I don't know where she would get that kind of money. I am sure Kaine must participate in the families finances but maybe not. I hope they are checking out any money that may be missing from the families accounts. I wouldn't have thought it before but now I am thinking she may be that crazy. Maybe that is what Kaine and Desiree are thinking too, that's why they think he's alive.

As Kaine's wife, maybe Terrie Horman is the beneficiary of a large life insurance policy and she promised the landscaper the payment would be made when she received payment.
 
  • #434
I do not know what he has to gain....He should have gone to LE long ago, WHAT DID HE HAVE TO LOSE???
They are not deporting the illegals so what was he waiting for? IF SHE DID ask him to murder her husband? What was he doing still working for her? Why would he be working for a potential murderer? He knew that finger can point to him if anything did happen? Why didn't he run after that strange request?
I do not believe it...This case has many twists, and it seems Terry is getting the worst part of it all.

Actually no - KYRON got the worst of it all :(
 
  • #435
She definitely had to have some kind of "personal" relationship with the landscaper. She obviously felt close enough to him to approach him with the subject. If not, could you imagine the conversation:

TH: "Wow, the yard is looking really great. Oh, and by the way, would you take $50K in exchange for killing my husband?" ;)

My guess is they got more info from the recorded convo between landscaper and TH than they are letting on. TH probably realized she was in big trouble at that point and that, along with the RO, is what prompted her to hire the attorney.

And regarding the LE.....does anyone really expect them to say anything but NO COMMENT?????????

How would someone bring something like this up? They would have to know them REALLY well or know something about them, IMO. I've had the same "landscapers" (I call them yard and snow plow guys) for the last seven years. I would never even think about asking any of them to do something like that for me. I can't think of a way to even approach them with it.
 
  • #436
They won't be able to charge her with anything related to this alleged plot if all they have is the landscape man saying the request took place. Anyone could accuse someone of anything, if that were the case.

It may turn out to be just one more thing "out there" that ultimately affects potential jurors, etc...but has no bearing on the case with Kyron.
 
  • #437
:furious:If what this landscaper claims is true and Terrie Horman did offer to pay him to murder Kaine:

Why didn't they report Terrie Horman to authorities immediately after she offered him money to murder Kaine Horman?

Why did it take law enforcement so long to find and interview the landscaper?

Why didn't the landscaper warn Kaine Horman about the fact Terrie wanted him dead?

If the landscaper was aware Kyron Horman was missing shortly after he disappeared and that Terrie Horman, the woman who approached him with an offer of money to murder her husband Kain Horman, why didn't he come forward of his own accord?

If Terrie hated Kaine so much as to want to pay someone to murder him, it is entirely possible she paid someone to murder Kyron or committed the murder herself.

If Terrie hated Kaine, she probably hated Kyron too and was really mean to him when Kaine wasn't around! :furious:
Looking at that sweet boys face the day he went missing.... I don't think he knew what was coming....he has such a beautiful smile.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/horman_kr.htm
 
  • #438
They don't have to say a thing. Just asking someone to do that is conspiracy to commit murder, doesn't matter if she turned it around and said "haha, just a joke, I was kidding!" The act of asking is as illegal as the act of murder; it just doesn't have the same sentence.

Time to arrest her for that.


Wow. You learn something every day! So I wonder if they arrested her yet? If not, why not?
 
  • #439
WOW!! after reading this, I fell mayeb Kyron is alive.

Terri was after Kaine, wanted to kill him first.. didn't work, so what is the next best thing to do.... you break his heart...

What is Kaines fear?
1. for his child to go missing... and then most likely..
2. Kyron being with a perv.

As many posters stated above, I question the timing.. J has to move out because he "butts heads with Kaine" .. 6 months later, Terri is tryign to get someone to kill her husband and Kyron is missing. hummm...
 
  • #440
So LE tracks this landscaper down and now he says -- yeah TH hired me

to do some landscaping for her and oh by the way -- she also asked if I

would do away with her husband!!!!! and landscaper obviously turns down

TH and keeps all this to himself. I would think if I were the landscaper, I

would have feared for my OWN life after turning her down, but he just

casually carries on with his day to day!!!!! Come on!!!!!!! They make this

sound like going to the corner for a cup of coffee somewhere.


And just exactly how did they schedule this landscaping to be done

without KH's knowledge and what exactly did she tell KH that SHE was

doing all this work.


MOO always.
 
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