Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

[SuziQ]

Hopefully LE will ask the landscaper, IF there is a landscaper, to take a poly to confirm this "alleged" murder-for-hire.

That's usually the first thing LE does before going any further. They don't want to waste time on someone who's lying.

 

[Lokiza]

Ok, now this is a twist I did not consider. Brother if this is true then TH is very sick. Oh, Kyron I am so sorry to see this.

Wow, well she will be convicted in the court of public opinion for sure now. Whether or not she did something to Kyron it is not looking good.

:furious:

 

[wondering1]

I've read about people trying to hire hitmen - sometimes successfully and sometimes not. It seems to me that all it really takes is a belief on the part of the asker that the person they are asking is immoral/desperate for money/already involved in criminal activities.

True. I wonder if she knew the landscaper from other..ahem... "transactions" or it was suggested to her that he might be a good persion to ask. I grew up in NJ where murder-for-hire is relatively common :innocent: and all you have to do is suggest to the right person that you might be in a position to consider doing something like this and they will make sure that you are pointed in the right direction.

 

[matou]

I just thought of this: What if Kyron is being held for ransom/blackmail because someone else knows about the hit request made to the landscaper by Terri? She must have had access to some cash and obviously the hit never happened against Kaine. Maybe the word got to someone else shady who needed some money and this was a direct message to Terri to pay up the large sum of money she offered to the landscaper guy. I know....she's probably responsible but there are so many people hard up for cash, they may even abduct a little boy to get it. I'm still so hopeful that Kyron is alive. I just don't feel like he had died. I feel like he is being held somewhere, now I understand the bio-parents pleas and feelings that he is alive.

Happy fourth to all my American friends. xo

 

[Snowball58]

Oh the irony of TH's comments about the unmowed patch of lawn in her yard...

 

[cluciano63]

I think LE may have found this guy weeks ago, not just recently, and was working on trying to get a phone conversation set up between Terri and landscaper. Which shows, to me, that LE has been running down all people in their lives, to check them out. Once they spoke with this guy, they may have noticed too many phone calls between Terri and him for a regular groundskeeping relationship, and brought the guy back in. But if she asked this guy out of the blue, he may not have taken it seriously at the time.

I just don't see how an arrest can be made with just his statement. There has to something more to back it up.

 

[marlap]

What would give, Terri the idea that this guy might be willing to do such a thing?

We don't know who he is...it could be someone TH has known for a long time.

Wanda Holloway (convicted of hiring a hitman to kill her daughter's cheerleading rival's mother) went to her ex husband's brother because she knew he had had minor run-ins with the law and assumed he'd be interested.

In that case, he absolutely wasn't and went straight to LE.

So maybe TH knew this lawnguy, thought he might be interested, but in this case he either was and was waiting for a downpayment or wasn't but really didn't take her seriously at all. Both reasons for not coming forward.

I think LE may have found this guy weeks ago, not just recently, and was working on trying to get a phone conversation set up between Terri and landscaper. Which shows, to me, that LE has been running down all people in their lives, to check them out. Once they spoke with this guy, they may have noticed too many phone calls between Terri and him for a regular groundskeeping relationship, and brought the guy back in. But if she asked this guy out of the blue, he may not have taken it seriously at the time.

I just don't see how an arrest can be made with just his statement. There has to something more to back it up.

I agree!

 

[PickieChickie]

Oregon - Solicitation of murder is a class A felony punishable with up to 20 years in prison!

Source: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...cy+to+commit+murder?&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


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[CharlestonGal]

Interesting. I was just thinking about how all this fits in with the RO and the sealing of the records. Just Friday iirc, the judge refused to unseal the RO pending a hearing on the 12th. Everyone except the media says it critical to the investigation that it remain sealed. Presumably it includes information regarding the murder-for-hire plot, and now, two days later, the entire thing is laid out by the Oregonian, which was first excluded, then re-included, in the family's q&a, etc. also on Friday iirc. wth? is all I can say...

I can see why LE and the family were trying to keep this quiet. Now that it's been published, there is no way Terri is going to fall for a setup or wiretap with landscaper guy. Any chance for LE to build a case is now lost, unfortunately.

 

[pdx]

I have to go to the Kyron scanner thread and go back to see how many calls they had for doorstep fainting this AM.

'Cause if that headline was on my doorstep, I'd been drooling on my porch until help arrived.

Be careful out there, PDX!

Exactly!
Fortunately, I'd had an alert from a friend via email before I picked up the paper or we would've had a mess all over the front porch.. coffee splutter everywhere and bodies littering the steps.
And here I figured today's debate would be over the KGW news last night.. I'm going to have to add a thread for that because it is weird.

 

[Wendy101]

At 10:08 this morning came this statement by email to the KXL newsroom:

"There will be no comment from the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office regarding the information reported in the July 4, 2010 Oregonian. The information released in the Oregonian article did NOT come from the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. This is an ongoing investigation. There is no press conference scheduled for today or tomorrow. If there are tips or information related to the Kyron Horman missing person case please call the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office tip line at 503 261-2847. If a person/persons believe they have had an actual sighting of Kyron Hormon call 911."


http://www.kxl.com/BREAKING-NEWS--Horman-Murder-For-Hire-Plot-Alleged/7612451

HUmm.. I guess the want Terri to think about what has been released to teh public for a couple days???

 

[Emma Peel]

At 10:08 this morning came this statement by email to the KXL newsroom:

"There will be no comment from the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office regarding the information reported in the July 4, 2010 Oregonian. The information released in the Oregonian article did NOT come from the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. This is an ongoing investigation. There is no press conference scheduled for today or tomorrow. If there are tips or information related to the Kyron Horman missing person case please call the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office tip line at 503 261-2847. If a person/persons believe they have had an actual sighting of Kyron Hormon call 911."


http://www.kxl.com/BREAKING-NEWS--Horman-Murder-For-Hire-Plot-Alleged/7612451

So much for the "Team" concept.
Can't blame them for trying...
*sigh*

I really hope the press is darn certain this information would not interfere with a safe release of Kyron from any possible actual kidnappers. Hoping against hope against hope.

 

[Emma Peel]

Exactly!
Fortunately, I'd had an alert from a friend via email before I picked up the paper or we would've had a mess all over the front porch.. coffee splutter everywhere and bodies littering the steps.
And here I figured today's debate would be over the KGW news last night.. I'm going to have to add a thread for that because it is weird.

Please do, as I must have missed that! Hmmmmm...

 

[Deleted member 718]

At 10:08 this morning came this statement by email to the KXL newsroom:

"There will be no comment from the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office regarding the information reported in the July 4, 2010 Oregonian. The information released in the Oregonian article did NOT come from the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. This is an ongoing investigation. There is no press conference scheduled for today or tomorrow. If there are tips or information related to the Kyron Horman missing person case please call the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office tip line at 503 261-2847. If a person/persons believe they have had an actual sighting of Kyron Hormon call 911."


http://www.kxl.com/BREAKING-NEWS--Horman-Murder-For-Hire-Plot-Alleged/7612451

Thanks darlin gal!

So, if it wasn't the Sheriff's office that leaked this info, that leaves only the Lawn Man himself, or team D K &T.

I highly doubt Lawn Man, unless he's hoping to sell his story, so is it D K&T? What purpose does this release serve?

 

[JBean]

At 10:08 this morning came this statement by email to the KXL newsroom:

"There will be no comment from the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office regarding the information reported in the July 4, 2010 Oregonian. The information released in the Oregonian article did NOT come from the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. This is an ongoing investigation. There is no press conference scheduled for today or tomorrow. If there are tips or information related to the Kyron Horman missing person case please call the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office tip line at 503 261-2847. If a person/persons believe they have had an actual sighting of Kyron Hormon call 911."


http://www.kxl.com/BREAKING-NEWS--Horman-Murder-For-Hire-Plot-Alleged/7612451

bada bing bada bump

 

[SuziQ]

Am I the only one who feels that a desire to put a hit out on your husband several months ago, if this is true, is not exactly proof of being willing to kill his child a few weeks ago?

Absolutely the two incidents might not be related.....BUT it at least tells me that TH has no problems using murder as a problem solving tool.

And it's not often, in fact I've never heard of this, a wife tries to put a hit on her husband and a few months later her stepson up and disappears.

 

[joshiesmom]

I haven't read every reply yet, so please forgive me if this has been discussed...

Wouldn't Terri be arrested for engaging in a murder-for-hire situation? Or is that something that would have to be proved before they could arrest her for it?

In other words, how do they know that the gardener is telling the truth?

 

[GrainneDhu]

Question: Why didn't the landscaper come forward to the cops 6 to 7 months ago telling them that about this murder for hire scheme? It could've saved Kyron's life.

A bunch of people have probably already said this but here goes anyway.

In many places, landscaping in the sense of yardwork, etc, is one of the jobs that undocumented aliens can do relatively safely.

If he were an undocumented alien, he had to weigh whether the police would take his word against the word of a wealthy white woman and whether he would just be deported for his pains.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Thanks darlin gal!

So, if it wasn't the Sheriff's office that leaked this info, that leaves only the Lawn Man himself, or team D K &T.

I highly doubt Lawn Man, unless he's hoping to sell his story, so is it D K&T? What purpose does this release serve?

It could have been a civilian worker in the PD, or a friend of the lawn guy, etc, etc. Checkbook journalism goes pretty far when there's public interest of this level. MOO.

 

[wondering1]

I can see why LE and the family were trying to keep this quiet. Now that it's been published, there is no way Terri is going to fall for a setup or wiretap with landscaper guy. Any chance for LE to build a case is now lost, unfortunately.

You're right. I didn't think of that. I wonder where the Oregonian got it's info. I think I just read that it was from "investigators familiar with the case." Oh boy, heads are gonna roll!

Maybe they have some other tangible evidence, but I'm thinking not.