Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

[AbbieNormal]

Let's get back on target here. All of our theories should be based on some factual information. Let's do less theorizing and more discussion about the facts we learned today.

This thread is turning into wild theories. Let's talk about facts and how they may relate to finding Kyron.

Thank You. :grouphug:

Is there anything we learned today that would change your mind, point to finding an alive Kyron, are you more hopeful, what do you think LE can do with this information?

BBM

I, sadly, have lost all hope Kyron is ok and will be found alive. Its only by the grace of God that Kaine is still alive. Terri apparently is an evil, odious creature, and she will eventually get whats coming to her. MOO.

 

[just]

When has TH opened her mouth and said anything? All I have see is reports of other people saying she said something.

True story. She has only spoken through her friend Finster, is it? the one that made the rounds on shows. I think TH verified this with a reporter that she was allowed to speak for her? Maybe someone has the link.:banghead:

 

[nanny2five]

Hmmm?? What is it that ladies possess and can give away that men might want? lol

:waitasec:

 

[grandmaj]

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/n...-Stepmom/l4i6IFRqZ0C60O2oBmelsA.cspx?rss=1100

There is another thread regarding could an arrest be forthcoming soon. But, maybe it is just more information and decisions.

snipped:

Staton did imply that events could unfold quickly during the next few days. When asked for a timetable of upcoming developments, he told KOIN Local 6, "I should be able to answer a lot more questions this coming week. I've got a lot of decisions this coming week."

 

[sorrell skye]

Because for some reason women have this idea that "he may have done that to his ex, be he loves me and he would never do that to me. Our love is real and special". It goes along with "just because he cheated on her doesn't mean he'll cheat on me". Women are wierd that way in that a lot of us seem to overlook the obvious because we think love is a cure-all and somehow our love is going to change a bad boy into a good man.

BBM

I think it goes both ways. I think men are just as capable of believing they can "change" the person they're in love with. I think men are just as vulnerable to the idea that "our love is special & she would NEVER do that to me."

Personally, I don't see it as a gender attribute. I see it as a personality attribute. Certain types of personalities, IMO, are more prone to believe in the fantasy of fairy tale love, in which they play the role of "The One" that the other person has been searching for & has finally found & "They All Live Happily Ever After".

Unfortunately, one of the best predictors of future behavior is past behavior.

Although human beings are indeed capable of change (thank Goodness!), it isn't something that is attained easily. It definitely isn't something that occurs without intense self-reflection & hard work. There's no drive-thru window we can pull up to & order a double bacon cheeseburger with a side of honesty fries, a strawberry humility milkshake, and a chocolate-dipped self-responsibility soft-serve cone.

True change is hard-won & hard-earned. Not something that occurs in a flash of epiphany. The "epiphany" is only the first step that change needs to occur. After that - the journey.

 

[twzzlrgirl]

Let's get back on target here. All of our theories should be based on some factual information. Let's do less theorizing and more discussion about the facts we learned today.

This thread is turning into wild theories. Let's talk about facts and how they may relate to finding Kyron.

Thank You. :grouphug:

Is there anything we learned today that would change your mind, point to finding an alive Kyron, are you more hopeful, what do you think LE can do with this information?

I am sure I"m in the minority, but I am completely more hopeful with this news coming out. I think she didn't want to lose Kyron if bio dad "died" so she hid him away. He might be far away (Canada, etc.), but I bet he's still alive. If she really wanted to hurt Kaine by killing Kyron, I think she would have put the body somewhere where it would be found and identified sooner rather than later. Payback would be not having any more hope.

 

[Sherbie]

DHS opened a case on Terri Horman years ago


A source confirmed late Sunday afternoon that the Oregon Department of Human Services opened a case on Terri Horman following a 2005 arrest and charge of driving under the influence. Her biological son, who was 11 at the time, was in the car when his mother was arrested. As such, Horman also was convicted of reckless endangerment of that son.

Horman pleaded guilty in that incident. She had her license suspended for a month and a half, and is still serving out a 12-year probation for those convictions.

We called the Department of Human Services to try to get answers from the agency's case file. Instead, DHS workers referred us to investigators working Kyron Horman's disappearance case.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/97777564.html

Thank you, darlin gal! I wonder if it's SOP for Oregon DHS to open an investigative file when there is any type of child endangerment charge. Do we have any local social workers on board who might know?

 

[Lanie]

I do remember the preacher's wife - no comment.lol

Hormones could have a play in this...early menapause? We don't know if Terri's request to murder her husband was sincere - no money exchanged hands and there wasn't a plan. So was it a big wish, something she investigated as being possible? Or was she going to carry it out?

I doubt she can stand her husband - he has a history of using his children against the woman he is with. I can't think of anything that would get a loving mom more outraged.

On the other hand, maybe Kaine's insurance policy interested Terri - and it became her incentive to get rid of him. This still doesn't answer the question of 'where is Kyron' because I would be shocked if she murdered him. She clearly is not a 'hands on murderer'. moo mho

BBM

I haven't read this case on a daily basis, and I've seen a few references to what I've bolded above. Would someone mind, please, filling me in. The last I knew KH had custody of Kyron because DY had been ill and then living with her parents, and it was a mutual decision after things got better for DY to continue the arrangement as is.

 

[raeann]

Here is an attractive lawn man for you Calm down everyone! This is not "the" lawn man. This is only a stress relieving post.

LOL.....not bad, but I was thinking more along the lines of the one Eva Longoria had in Desperate Housewives.....now, THAT was a lawn man!!!!

jmoo

 

[WhyaDuck?]

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/n...-Stepmom/l4i6IFRqZ0C60O2oBmelsA.cspx?rss=1100

There is another thread regarding could an arrest be forthcoming soon. But, maybe it is just more information and decisions.

snipped:

Staton did imply that events could unfold quickly during the next few days. When asked for a timetable of upcoming developments, he told KOIN Local 6, "I should be able to answer a lot more questions this coming week. I've got a lot of decisions this coming week."

From that article:

Kyron Horman's stepmother is accused of hiring a hit man to kill her now-estranged husband.

Really, all she's being accused of is attempting to hire a hitman. Not a huge difference, but this line implies that she was successful.

I wonder if we will get any info on any of her possible subsequent attempts.

 

[Haeve]

We called the Department of Human Services to try to get answers from the agency's case file. Instead, DHS workers referred us to investigators working Kyron Horman's disappearance case.

Duh, can anyone say client confidentiality?

http://www.oregon.gov/DHS/admin/dwssrules/adopted/407_014_a.pdf

 

[Curious Me]

The part of someone that would plan to harm another is the foreign concept I struggle with believing. I know it is true some people don't feel remorse or love. I will lose all hope that Kyron is alive if I start seeing that missing piece in TH. I don't know enough about the past and who the players really are yet. Hanging on to hope for Kyron.

 

[twzzlrgirl]

From that article:



Really, all she's being accused of is attempting to hire a hitman. Not a huge difference, but this line implies that she was successful.

I wonder if we will get any info on any of her possible subsequent attempts.

I would be surprised if the only person she approached was the lawn guy. If I really wanted my husband dead, I'd go to multiple sources, not give up after the first one said "no."

If my husband reads this, though, I'll deny it

 

[just]

Let's get back on target here. All of our theories should be based on some factual information. Let's do less theorizing and more discussion about the facts we learned today.

This thread is turning into wild theories. Let's talk about facts and how they may relate to finding Kyron.

Thank You. :grouphug:

Is there anything we learned today that would change your mind, point to finding an alive Kyron, are you more hopeful, what do you think LE can do with this information?

I think talking about the who, what and whens, even information that seems trivial, can in fact be relevant (and am saying with respect to the mods and this board). For instance, someone pointed out that a reporter talked to Terri 'about her lawn.' I actually saw that on the news, the reporter said TH answered the door (and he was surprised), but refused to talk about anything related to Kyron so they talked about her lawn. I thought to myself, WTH? But then it comes out this plot with the landscaper and you go, okay, not a coincidence. I think the relevance to finding Kyron is that a woman who would plot to kill her husband with a gardener, for heaven's sake, is very capable of other wrongdoings to anyone, anywhere, anytime.

I think it shows the LE is saying to her with the flier, with the 'leaks' about the polypgraphs and cell pings, 'we aint' stopping honey, it's just going to get worse" and how that helps find Kyron is that she will be backed in a corner until she finally has to tell them where he is - IMO.

I like this board and don't want to say anything that goes against the rules, just trying to say my perspective -- If the LE hadn't printed a flier of her, I might not be so quick to think this way...any other thoughts though I am completely open to of little Kyron's whereabouts. I just don't know how, at this point, to separate him missing from TH. :waitasec:

 

[Emeralgem]

Let's get back on target here. All of our theories should be based on some factual information. Let's do less theorizing and more discussion about the facts we learned today.

This thread is turning into wild theories. Let's talk about facts and how they may relate to finding Kyron.

Thank You. :grouphug:

Is there anything we learned today that would change your mind, point to finding an alive Kyron, are you more hopeful, what do you think LE can do with this information?

If anything, I'm less hopeful now Kyron will be found alive..
IMHO...If she is capable of standing on a stage at a press conference hanging on to her husband who we now know she wants dead because she claims he hurt her, she is capable of anything...IMHO..Also pretending to console the real mother of a child she , herself, may have harmed indicates to me she may be lacking a conscience....JMO

 

[Day Dreamer]

My heart wants to believe that Kyron is still alive and could still come home. My head and statistics tell me otherwise. I'm not sure I would be surprised at anything else that comes out in this case.

This new information, for me personally, removes any doubt that I had that Terri is responsible for Kyron's disappearance. I am relieved to realize that yes, LE does in fact know what they are doing. I understand why this info was not released earlier. I am working on trying to be more patient; but, when it comes to such a beautiful little guy's life I tend to get very impatient. I want to reach through the computer and bring him home!

 

[Amster]

Thank God Kaine took the baby and got out of there....and, I hope LE is protecting them 24/7. Just because her yard man turned her down doesn't mean she didn't hire someone else to off Kaine. Scary stuff...

 

[WhyaDuck?]

The part of someone that would plan to harm another is the foreign concept I struggle with believing. I know it is true some people don't feel remorse or love. I will lose all hope that Kyron is alive if I start seeing that missing piece in TH. I don't know enough about the past and who the players really are yet. Hanging on to hope for Kyron.

Well, Curious, you're a better person than I am. While I don't really understand the urge/ability to abuse animals and children, I don't find the wish to harm some other adults who you feel have wronged you all that foreign. I find it all too familiar, actually. Which is why I am happy for law, empathy, proper socialization, and the gift of reasonable sanity - all things I try never to take for granted.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Somehow this whole new story does not shock me that much, this case has made me even more jaded than I already was. It startled me when I first saw the headlines posted today, but here it is, just hours later, and I am over it. Unless the landscape guy is relevant to the Kyron investigation, he is nothing more than a witness sometime down the line, if and when. He does not move the case closer to a conclusion. And once again, a big distraction from the Kyron question.

Can this group provide any more distractions? I know they say they want the opposite, but gee whiz. Possible murder plots, sudden divorce filings, RO to beat the band, excluded press, and that is just in one week...

Oh, if Rosie were the wagering sort, she would be putting her money on the "Oh Heck Yes It Can" square.

 

[sorrell skye]

Here is an attractive lawn man for you Calm down everyone! This is not "the" lawn man. This is only a stress relieving post.

Wait - where'd you get that pic, Bad Bert?! That "lawn" man bears an uncanny resemblance to my boy toy lol!

(J/K of course!) Thanks for the much-needed humor at such a head-spinning time!