Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

[Dr.Fessel]

If some guy was coming over and mowing the lawn, Kyron would have known about it. Maybe he was going to say something to dad.

 

[twzzlrgirl]

Well, Curious, you're a better person than I am. While I don't really understand the urge/ability to abuse animals and children, I don't find the wish to harm some other adults who you feel have wronged you all that foreign. I find it all too familiar, actually. Which is why I am happy for law, empathy, proper socialization, and the gift of reasonable sanity - all things I try never to take for granted.

ITA. The difference, of course, is I can understand the feeling of hatred (unfortunately) when someone deliberately hurts me...mentally, emotionally, or physically.

Since a child would be incapable of that kind of behavior, I don't see what it would take to hurt a child. I literally cannot think of scenario in which I could even entertain the idea of harming an innocent kid (and they are all innocent).

 

[cluciano63]

Slightly OT, but I find it hard to reckon that WW had an idea about this lawn guy story that long ago and did not go with it...not their style to be so restrained. I think sometimes a lawn is just a lawn. Not to say WW reporter wouldn't now say that he was hinting...

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Slightly OT, but I find it hard to reckon that WW had an idea about this lawn guy story that long ago and did not go with it...not their style to be so restrained. I think sometimes a lawn is just a lawn. Not to say WW reporter wouldn't now say that he was hinting...

That might just have been the luckiest darn happenstance in this whole thing.

 

[Kat]

Good lord.

I'm pretty much at a loss for words at this latest news. We have us one very personality disordered individual here. JMHO. I'm not even going to hazard a guess.

I'd love to know more about her history. Her interpersonal relationships. Etc...

As for Kyron, I am praying that angels wrap their wings around the heart of his Mother right now. Bless her heart.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

LDT = Lie Detector Test.

ETA: I almost put "MOO" after that... I think this case is making me edgy.

I say MOO enough in real life that my hubby bought me a little stuffed cow. And my daughter uses it.

LOL

 

[twzzlrgirl]

It's days like today that I look at my family, with all their little oddities, and thank God for every one of them. I see families like this and thank my lucky stars that my loved ones are normal by comparison!!

I can't imagine what it was like for these kids living with this bunch.

 

[Curious Me]

I think talking about the who, what and whens, even information that seems trivial, can in fact be relevant (and am saying with respect to the mods and this board). For instance, someone pointed out that a reporter talked to Terri 'about her lawn.' I actually saw that on the news, the reporter said TH answered the door (and he was surprised), but refused to talk about anything related to Kyron so they talked about her lawn. I thought to myself, WTH? But then it comes out this plot with the landscaper and you go, okay, not a coincidence. I think the relevance to finding Kyron is that a woman who would plot to kill her husband with a gardener, for heaven's sake, is very capable of other wrongdoings to anyone, anywhere, anytime.

I think it shows the LE is saying to her with the flier, with the 'leaks' about the polypgraphs and cell pings, 'we aint' stopping honey, it's just going to get worse" and how that helps find Kyron is that she will be backed in a corner until she finally has to tell them where he is - IMO.

I like this board and don't want to say anything that goes against the rules, just trying to say my perspective -- If the LE hadn't printed a flier of her, I might not be so quick to think this way...any other thoughts though I am completely open to of little Kyron's whereabouts. I just don't know how, at this point, to separate him missing from TH. :waitasec:

BBM I must be tired today because I didn't even make that connection until you pointed it out. I, too, remember the reporter saying TH kept talking about her lawn. It's just funny how it connects in a coincidental way, huh.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

BBM I must be tired today because I didn't even make that connection until you pointed it out. I, too, remember the reporter saying TH kept talking about her lawn. It's just funny how it connects in a coincidental way, huh.

Yep and the reporter said she did talk about the lawn. Where is that article?

 

[WhyaDuck?]

It's days like today that I look at my family, with all their little oddities, and thank God for every one of them. I see families like this and thank my lucky stars that my loved ones are normal by comparison!!

I can't imagine what it was like for these kids living with this bunch.

Oh man. I shudder to think what some of the thread titles might be if my family were embroiled in something like this.

Report: Mom Force Fed Ducky Cabbage at least 5 Times a Week!

 

[Curious Me]

Yep and the reporter said she did talk about the lawn. Where is that article?

Saw it on NG.

 

[cluciano63]

In going back to the money theory...about which perhaps I was wrong in stating it was not about money...

Maybe she decided against having Kaine killed and instead having Kyron taken from school...there could be a huge payday there, even if his body was never found, unlike with life insurance. Sure, it might take a while but the school district would probably be forced to settle if indeed it was decided that she had left the building, thinking Kyron was safe, say, and he was never seen again. (downfall possibly being that no one saw Kyron once she left-she had counted on someone seeing him alone while she moved the truck around to side door or whatever). That way she would have access to a portion of the millions from the school district and could probably get some of that even if they divorced. And she would have a fair shot at custody of her baby girl. Kaine out of her life, a lump sum and no Kyron to console Kaine.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Law-enforcement sources have told WW the investigation into Kyron’s disappearance has increasingly focused on Horman. When I visited, she told us investigators have asked her not to discuss the case with the media. She also declined to talk about her reaction to Kyron’s disappearance or details about her family.

That left us with small talk. I complimented her on the family’s hilly one-acre yard, asking whether the family might be planning to make a large unmowed patch at the center into a garden. She said no, and commented on the difficulties of keeping up the property.


http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/06...man-and-whats-changed-at-the-house-this-week/

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

True story. She has only spoken through her friend Finster, is it? the one that made the rounds on shows. I think TH verified this with a reporter that she was allowed to speak for her? Maybe someone has the link.:banghead:

If she okayed it, I missed that. I have read the friend, and, I think you are right on the name, but, didn't know it was reported TH verified her speaking. I thought she (friend) said it was okay.

I know TH did make the one comment to the reporter denying KH had moved out, but, that is the only time I thought/think she herself spoke out.

If someone has the link, that would be great.

 

[Kat]

It's days like today that I look at my family, with all their little oddities, and thank God for every one of them. I see families like this and thank my lucky stars that my loved ones are normal by comparison!!

I can't imagine what it was like for these kids living with this bunch.

This is sort of off topic but then again not.

My Husband and I were talking the other day about another case. He said "They appear to be so normal".

I said "Yes, they always do from the outside don't they?" But the main difference is they do appear normal until someone dies. (either by natural death or by murder, etc...) Here we have a child that was more than likely murdered by his Stepmother IMHO.

This is going to sound very flippant and it's not meant that way in my head. My own Brother has a saying: It's a party until someone gets arrested.

My own saying about these types of cases where it is eventually revealed that a family member more than likely did do something to another family member is this: We don't see how "sick" (not implying mental health) someone is until they kill someone. JMHO.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Law-enforcement sources have told WW the investigation into Kyron’s disappearance has increasingly focused on Horman. When I visited, she told us investigators have asked her not to discuss the case with the media. She also declined to talk about her reaction to Kyron’s disappearance or details about her family.

That left us with small talk. I complimented her on the family’s hilly one-acre yard, asking whether the family might be planning to make a large unmowed patch at the center into a garden. She said no, and commented on the difficulties of keeping up the property.


http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/06...man-and-whats-changed-at-the-house-this-week/

Here's the WS thread on that article. Long since locked down, but I thought I'd link it in case peeps wanted to peruse it.


[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107889"]2010.06.28 - A visit with Terri and Kaine is possibly staying at another location - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[twzzlrgirl]

This is sort of off topic but then again not.

My Husband and I were talking the other day about another case. He said "They appear to be so normal".

I said "Yes, they always do from the outside don't they?" But the main difference is they do appear normal until someone dies. (either by natural death or by murder, etc...) Here we have a child that was more than likely murdered by his Stepmother IMHO.

This is going to sound very flippant and it's not meant that way in my head. My own Brother has a saying: It's a party until someone gets arrested.

My own saying about these types of cases where it is eventually revealed that a family member more than likely did do something to another family member is this: We don't see how "sick" (not implying mental health) someone is until they kill someone. JMHO.

ITA...these kind of people would be a lot easier to spot if they didn't appear "normal" on the surface!!!:dance:

In all seriousness, TH must have been trying very hard to make everything seem like "business as usual." It's the only way no one would suspect her if KH did end up dead.

 

[PickieChickie]

DHS opened a case on Terri Horman years ago


A source confirmed late Sunday afternoon that the Oregon Department of Human Services opened a case on Terri Horman following a 2005 arrest and charge of driving under the influence. Her biological son, who was 11 at the time, was in the car when his mother was arrested. As such, Horman also was convicted of reckless endangerment of that son.

Horman pleaded guilty in that incident. She had her license suspended for a month and a half, and is still serving out a 12-year probation for those convictions.

We called the Department of Human Services to try to get answers from the agency's case file. Instead, DHS workers referred us to investigators working Kyron Horman's disappearance case.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/97777564.html

Certainly asking your lawn mower guy to kill your husband is a violation of probation!

 

[matou]

In going back to the money theory...about which perhaps I was wrong in stating it was not about money...

Maybe she decided against having Kaine killed and instead having Kyron taken from school...there could be a huge payday there, even if his body was never found, unlike with life insurance. Sure, it might take a while but the school district would probably be forced to settle if indeed it was decided that she had left the building, thinking Kyron was safe, say, and he was never seen again. (downfall possibly being that no one saw Kyron once she left-she had counted on someone seeing him alone while she moved the truck around to side door or whatever). That way she would have access to a portion of the millions from the school district and could probably get some of that even if they divorced. And she would have a fair shot at custody of her baby girl. Kaine out of her life, a lump sum and no Kyron to console Kaine.

Interesting. I hadn't thought of her suing the school because of Kyron's disappearance. She would have known that the school had no security cameras and all the ins and outs of that school since she did work there (volunteering, I think). The 'alleged' doctors note and telling the teacher about the 'appointment' would fit in to building a case against the school. JMO

 

[cluciano63]

The guy who does our yard once in a while is just the kind of guy I would think of, if I ever required the services of a hit man...he is an oddball, fifty-something, lives with mom, and makes allusions to having a past, whatever that means...but he likes my husband, so I'd probably be the target