Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

[Ms Suzanne]

Well,I'm back from the fireworks.I did not have my little ones this year tonight.We have always watched the fire works together.But I went on the playground monkey bars up high in the back of our house like I do every year with my kids any way by myself.It was very quiet this year.I sat and thought of Kyron.I pray he really is safe somewhere and is enjoying the fireworks this year.I pray they find him soon.

 

[JenB]

The gardner must have had a heart attack when he saw "kyron missing" in the newspaper. Hmmm kill husband...child missing, I wonder if there is a connection? Should I call the police? BTW, I would have waited about 4 or 5 years not 6 months to kill someone after I tried to hire a hitman. She leaves a trial like a snail.

So do you guys figure this lawn care guy had any clue what the family names were? I'm so curious about the police tracking him down. A guy sprays our lawn and while he *might* know my name or my husband's, there's no way he knows our kids' names. And people who've come by here to shovel or snow blow, even on a regular basis, know only the house and not our names.

Wondering whether the lawn care guy knew who they were talking about when the police first approached him, or whether he had to be reminded with pictures, trip by the house, etc. That's assuming he didn't recognize Terri's pictures on the news yet fail to contact the police because of immigration status, fear of getting involved, being paid under the table and failing to report all income, or another reason.

 

[wondering1]

This is an excellent point. She may have been able to still get a teaching position if she just had a DUI (In Canada anyway) but wasn't there another charge stemming from having her 11 year old son in the car at the time? If so, her career as a teacher would have been over, unless the US has the same easy access to paid for pardons for even the most heinous crimes after 10 years (it was only 5 years up until last week) that Canadian criminals currently enjoy.

the article was corrected to 12 months instead of years. But still, at least where I am, dui with a minor is an automatic felony

 

[Emma Peel]

Remember when they published select the 2 works of Kyron's art?

The thing that was a chipmunk but might have been a red squirrel.
And the Sun. (son).

They were talkin' to Terri then. It might be interesting to look at what they've said in code and all and see if we think it's ALL messages to Terri ...

 

[human]

I know LE wants what we want=Kyron. I think they are trying every trick in the book to get her to tell where he is.

I am hoping that the LDT indicated that he is alive somewhere.

I am thinking arrest may be LE's last choice. I am sure they would have some kind of psychologist on board to advise them on how best to get a person of her profile to give them the info they need.

If she did kill him, however, I don't think that she will ever crack.

 

[butwhatif?]

I agree that there is SOME reason for LE to leak this information at this time. Perhaps they feel that TH isn't being as forthcoming as she could be and this is their "push" to help her cooperate to avoid even more charges...

Maybe to get other possible hitmen to come forward? The plan could have elvolved to including Kyron, if her motive for wanting hubby killed was because he had 'hurt' her. What better deranged way of getting revenge than getting rid of the son he loved?

So there could be others out there that she approached with a murder for hire or kidnapping scheme.
It seems revenge is the MO here, not $$$.

JMO, and thinking out loud.

 

[kbl8201]

You have to have more than someone's word against another in order to have probable cause for an arrest. I believe that's what they were trying to achieve with the clandestine recording of the meeting between lawnguy, Terri and undercover LE.

They may have developed other evidence that would allow for an arrest but are sitting on it and determining how best to use it in context of the case of Kyron's disappearance. Several possibilities. Patience...if she solicited murder and they can get the proof, she'll be charged in good time.

well the longer they sit on there butts the longer kyron sits out there somewhere, live or dead, and isnt brought home. i dont sense a real urgency for LE to find him one way or another

 

[Day Dreamer]

Why no arrest yet? Where are the angry villagers with pitchforks and torches parading in front of her house? Maybe they are being bused in from Florida.

LE has played this close to the vest from day 1. They know much more than I am sure we can even imagine. I have renewed faith in them.

*I think* LE is hoping to watch for her to slip up and possibly help them find Kyron if he is still alive. Sometimes you have to give people just enough rope to hang themselves.

 

[evelyn24]

I think someone said LE found him.What better way to get the focus off himself by blaming her.This is very interesting.I'm getting more interested in this guy.

I doubt he would agree to be recorded on the phone with her if he was in anyway involved with Kyron going missing.
Who knows what she could've said, you know?

 

[AbbieNormal]

I'd imagine that they can't arrest her because they don't have enough evidence to get a warrant. Having the landscaper say "well, Terri offered me money to kill her husband.." isn't going to be enough evidence.

Hook the lawn guy up to a LDT!!!

 

[WhyaDuck?]

well the longer they sit on there butts the longer kyron sits out there somewhere, live or dead, and isnt brought home. i dont sense a real urgency for LE to find him one way or another

With all due respect, though, we don't see all of their urgency. We only see some attention-grabbing news print and a few "no comments."

I'm willing to attribute to LE more of a "give-a-damn" than we can see in those news articles. MOO.

 

[Jack]

Why, just a few days ago, we were traveling down the expressway on the way home from a little vacation. There was an overpass, you know - one of those bridges for roads that goes over the expressway.

I saw a bicycle traveling across the overpass with no rider! I was so shocked. First thing I thought of was that a cyclist had been hit and his bike had flown down the street right side up.

Second thing I thought of was a ghost was riding the bike.

I excitedly told everyone to look, and we all watched it going across the bridge. It was a long bridge, too, and it was traveling pretty fast.

I couldn't figure out why everyone was laughing at me. Can you?

Does it have anything to do with a bike rack? LOL I am laughing so hard my family thinks I've lost my mind...

 

[cluciano63]

I don't think we are any closer to knowing what happened to Kyron. I still think LE has all of their hopes and dreams pinned on Terri, perhaps rightfully so, but have no idea what happened after Terri left that school. I don't think there has been any secret communications or clues through press conferences or media blackouts. I think that they just don't know, are trying to hold out hope for the sake of Kyron's family, and are desperate to get Terri to talk and/or find Kyron.

And I'm out.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Remember when they published select the 2 works of Kyron's art?

The thing that was a chipmunk but might have been a red squirrel.
And the Sun. (son).

They were talkin' to Terri then. It might be interesting to look at what they've said in code and all and see if we think it's ALL messages to Terri ...

Exactly....that's exactly what they have been doing. Pushing her buttons with little 'snippets' ... The media interviews where Desiree and Kaine sat together I thought would have really got under her skin, and tons of little references to Kyron that I believe were directly aimed at Terri to get her to talk to LE. I think the fact that the FBI have been working with LE from the get-go explains why things that have been said and done have seemed so odd to us.

 

[Sherbie]

I know LE wants what we want=Kyron. I think they are trying every trick in the book to get her to tell where he is.

I am hoping that the LDT indicated that he is alive somewhere.

I am thinking arrest may be LE's last choice. I am sure they would have some kind of psychologist on board to advise them on how best to get a person of her profile to give them the info they need.

If she did kill him, however, I don't think that she will ever crack.

I agree, human. They do have the FBI on site assisting, and I'm sure that likely includes some with specialized profiling and interrogation training. Not that the local agencies aren't competent, but the FBI is renowned for a reason. I am very thankful they're on board!

I'm praying hard that the pressure gets to her and she does crack. Obviously, she's not going to crack and tell anything simply because it's the right thing to do or she would've done so already.

However, in the interests of self-preservation (and whether she acted alone or precipitated someone else's actions), I'm hoping she realizes the jig is up and does what she can to lessen the punishment for herself. The number one thing she could do in that regard is to tell where Kyron is.

raying:

 

[RoughlyCollie]

Does it have anything to do with a bike rack? LOL I am laughing so hard my family thinks I've lost my mind...

Yes! In my defense, there was a wall alongside the overpass which hid the car from view. Those bike tires were right along the top of the wall.

ETA: Okay, so I didn't notice the wall.

I'm going to get in trouble for this, but here's another conundrum for you. Husband and I were driving through a town near Boston. He was showing me around because I'd just moved there from Atlanta.

There were lots of little houses, sidewalks, a big Catholic church, along the street. One of the houses had a yard full of tombstones.

I was so shocked that Yankees bury their dead in their front yards. My eyes bugged right out of my head!

Would you be?

 

[evelyn24]

Red highlight by me.

I said on here this morning that the "Kaine was abusive" angle would rear it's head, and there it is right on que.

I bet that's what she told the gardener - that Kaine was abusive/violent to her and the kids, that he would kill her if she tried to get a divorce, blah blah. That's why she needed him killed rather than just divorced. This is so typical.

I still think whatever happened to Kyron happened because he saw/heard something he was not supposed to see/hear.

IMO

Well of course, and this is a pretty standard story that is told by women who have been caught trying to hire someone to kill their SO. Even men use this angle. I rememeber the story of Allen Blackthorne who had his ex wife Sheila Bellush killed, and he persuaded the hitmen to kill her because she and her new husband were abusing his daughters that lived with her in Florida. All lies of course.
It's a standard tactic.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

....OK like that reference to Kyron's birthmark....that shows up when he is 'upset or crying' that one was definitely aimed at TH to take her straight back to the commission of the crime and make her feel guilty.

 

[Day Dreamer]

well the longer they sit on there butts the longer kyron sits out there somewhere, live or dead, and isnt brought home. i dont sense a real urgency for LE to find him one way or another

BBM Well, in all fairness, I really do believe that LE is very aware of the urgency to locate Kyron. I believe they are doing all they can and are constantly working. I think it is pretty obvious, from the display of emotions, that these LEO's have taken this case to heart.

Finding Kyron and making sure to build an air tight case against the suspect is not only their job ... I would bet they feel they owe Kyron that much. I am glad that they are so deeply touched. It certainly helps motivate them to find the answers they need. They said this case is going much faster than a typical case ... I think that is a direct result of how personal they are taking this case.

Yes, when they were not releasing any info a lot of us wondered if they knew anything. I think, with this news about the murder to hire, that it is very obvious that they are working much harder than we realize. They just can not tell us everything at this point. It is extremely frustrating; but, we have to look to the bigger picture ... the main goal ... to find Kyron.

 

[Sherbie]

well the longer they sit on there butts the longer kyron sits out there somewhere, live or dead, and isnt brought home. i dont sense a real urgency for LE to find him one way or another

I understand your frustration. I don't think they're sitting on their butts, though. They may have enough to arrest Terri right now for whatever happened to Kyron, but the more evidence they develop, the stronger their bargaining power for getting her to give up his location and the stronger their case at tria.

Remember, the sheriff's office guy said they had worked through about 60% of the valid tips so far. That leaves a good number that are still being worked and could lead to just the info they need to seal the deal. Although investigation can continue once an arrest is made, it's better to have as many ducks in a row as possible before that happens since that begins the clock ticking toward trial.