Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

[Nana46]

Uhhhm...Peter Pan is usually a female

I told ya'll this case was killing me,lol
Thank you "miss eyes" and thanks for the popcorn and drink offer earlier, tried to reply but thread was closed...that drinky poo sure looked good.:dance:

 

[gwenabob]

It is interesting about 911 calls tho....I think my family has only made one since 1970.....and God help us if we ever have to make one like that one again. I guess more folks call than I realize. IMO

I am thankful we have never had to make another one.

I think 4 calls in 6 months is actually quite a lot. I have made 4 calls in maybe 15 years, and they all had to do with stuff going on outside the house--car wrecks, etc. By the time cops come to your house at your summons 4 times in 6 months, they know you.

 

[Kat010]

Or maybe Terri's the type to get together with people and not bother to learn their names. Or maybe he just gave her a false name. Men do that sometimes so the woman can't call them later. We don't know when this alias was made or by who. We can't just assume it's an LE conspiracy to get to Terri.

Wait--he's a landscaper and he either did work for TH (according to prior reports) at the Horman home, or wanted to.

And so, to be employed and paid, he gave his employer a fake name? I recently wrote out a large check to one of my landscapers. So, if TH paid the LS with a check for his LS work, what good would it do him to be paid via a false name?

And how can you have insurance coverage for your work, as a small business owner, self-employed, if you seek out jobs under a false name?

This tidbit about RS being an alias was a bombshell. I'm assuming that the alias was provided by LE after they set up the failed sting operation.

But I may be wrong in that. There's so many untruths, half truths, and "what in the heck is that about?" flying around in this case.

 

[Calliope]

From the article:

Peter Bunch: says Kaine’s lawyer has mounds of information from the investigation:


Why would LE assist Kaine in his civil divorce case? This really irritates me.

 

[Kat010]

I don't think four calls that we know of is excessive.... four calls in ten months isn't that bad IMHO.

Back on topic, "Rudy Sanchez is an alias." This could mean what you all are saying about the MFH alias given to him but could it also mean he just has a ton of different names and maybe it is just not his actual birth name? Perhaps TH didn't know what his real name is?

Or, if LE didn't assign him an alias after the failed sting operation, maybe for some strange reason he has various names, or AKAs. Why would a businessman working for hire have multiple fake names?

Most confusing.

 

[chasing.halos]

I told ya'll this case was killing me,lol
Thank you "miss eyes" and thanks for the popcorn and drink offer earlier, tried to reply but thread was closed...that drinky poo sure looked good.:dance:

I am handing out warm brownies and Bailey's in the waiting room thread *wink*

 

[Nana46]

I posted this in the Hearing thread...I think we all need a big group hug about now and a thank you up to our God that we are not in this situation this family is in, especially little Kyron.

 

[tlcya]

I don't think we can surmise based on a single 911 call purproted to have been placed in December (prior to Kyron's disappearance) that LE "probably know her by first name"

I have place calls to 911 twice this past year (once to report a domestic dispute the next block over and once to report theives/burglars were in my car ransacking it late one night). I am fairly certain the police do not, based on those two calls, know me by my first name, consider me a drama queen, a cryer of wolf, etc.

I am sure at this point they certainly know her by her first name, after all, all of Oregon is now on first name basis with Terri due to her recent noteriety. By the time of the second 911 call (LSer visit to try and entrap Terri into incriminating herself on the MFH plot) and the third call (Daughter and Kaine "missing") they probably did but not due to innordinate amount of 911 calls from home, from her name being plastered all over the media in regarding to Kyron etc.

 

[Calliope]

I respect your opinion, but this entire case is pure speculation. I am entitled to speculate as to what I want based on the little info that we have. And I think she grabbed that phone awfully fast to call 911 several times the night the MFH sting went down and baby K and Kaine left. She seems to use it to cover herself, not actually because there's an emergency. A man with no weapons who just wants to talk does not constitute an emergency. Don't open the door or talk to him. Tell him to go away. There's no indication that he was at all physically threatening or aggressive towards her. He didn't try to beat her door down or anything, yet she called 911. That seems excessive to me.

We don't know what happened or what was said that day OR what the history was between the two. i.e. if he'd made threats in the past, was aggressive, etc.

 

[gwenabob]

Wait--he's a landscaper and he either did work for TH (according to prior reports) at the Horman home, or wanted to.

And so, to be employed and paid, he gave his employer a fake name? I recently wrote out a large check to one of my landscapers. So, if TH paid the LS with a check for his LS work, what good would it do him to be paid via a false name?

And how can you have insurance coverage for your work, as a small business owner, self-employed, if you seek out jobs under a false name?

This tidbit about RS being an alias was a bombshell. I'm assuming that the alias was provided by LE after they set up the failed sting operation.

But I may be wrong in that. There's so many untruths, half truths, and "what in the heck is that about?" flying around in this case.

I believe the LS had is own business and was not an employee.

the AKA may be a variation of a longer, more formal birth name. It may not be an LE supplied fake name at all. Also, Hispanics have a different way of naming their children using both the mother's and father's surname in the child's name. Sometimes that translates to more than one AKA as far as the police and police records are concerned.

 

[Nana46]

Or, if LE didn't assign him an alias after the failed sting operation, maybe for some strange reason he has various names, or AKAs. Why would a businessman working for hire have multiple fake names?

Most confusing.

Agreed....maybe his reputation followed him around about his work and he needed a new name? Heck I don't know. I would buy anything about now.

 

[carbuff]

I respect your opinion, but this entire case is pure speculation. I am entitled to speculate as to what I want based on the little info that we have. And I think she grabbed that phone awfully fast to call 911 several times the night the MFH sting went down and baby K and Kaine left. She seems to use it to cover herself, not actually because there's an emergency. A man with no weapons who just wants to talk does not constitute an emergency. Don't open the door or talk to him. Tell him to go away. There's no indication that he was at all physically threatening or aggressive towards her. He didn't try to beat her door down or anything, yet she called 911. That seems excessive to me.

I respectfully disagree. A man who wants to "talk" and won't go away can seem very threatening to a woman home alone with a baby. And we don't know that she was in the house when he got there. If he accosted her in the yard, it could have been terrifying, especially if they had parted on bad terms as some have speculated.

 

[wvjules]

I respect your opinion, but this entire case is pure speculation. I am entitled to speculate as to what I want based on the little info that we have. And I think she grabbed that phone awfully fast to call 911 several times the night the MFH sting went down and baby K and Kaine left. She seems to use it to cover herself, not actually because there's an emergency. A man with no weapons who just wants to talk does not constitute an emergency. Don't open the door or talk to him. Tell him to go away. There's no indication that he was at all physically threatening or aggressive towards her. He didn't try to beat her door down or anything, yet she called 911. That seems excessive to me.

What do we know about the failed sting attempt? How do we know he wasn't threatening her, pounding on the door, saying he had a gun? If some strange man comes to my house, with no close neighbors, threatening me, you can bet your sweet bippy I'm calling 911! You must be a braver woman than I!

 

[tlcya]

I posted this in the Hearing thread...I think we all need a big group hug about now and a thank you up to our God that we are not in this situation this family is in, especially little Kyron.

I agree - a big ole honkin group hug is in order! Mad respect to all, even those who disagree with me and my opinions. All this passion, turmoil, and yes even arguing is evidence that on one thing we are all in agreement.

Let's find out what happened to little Kyron.

 

[Kat010]

I believe the LS had is own business and was not an employee.

the AKA may be a variation of a longer, more formal birth name. It may not be an LE supplied fake name at all. Also, Hispanics have a different way of naming their children using both the mother's and father's surname in the child's name. Sometimes that translates to more than one AKA as far as the police and police records are concerned.

bbm

Sorry I didn't make it clear. She hired him and paid him to do work. That makes her his employer for that period of work. And he's the employee for the term of that work. At least as we use terms here in OK. When I pay someone to do something for me, I'm employing them.

As far as Hispanic names--you mean something like Manuel Ortega y Perez. That would not be an alias.

If however, Manuel sometimes used Manuel Ortega and other times used Manual Perez, one would be an AKA. In my experience--including lots of time in the Cubano community of Ybor City, FL--Hispanics, especially those in business, choose one of the family names for their "official" name. I recall one college classmate who really was conflicted--his mother's family name was that of a very famous Spanish ballerina. But the school forms didn't allow for a long, hyphenated last names. So, he chose to use his maternal name to honor her. Simple.

I'm finding the LS having an AKA to be very....suspicious. I'd like to know why. And who's protecting him, if anyone, and why. MOO

 

[Kimster]

I want to sleuth Peter Pan.

:floorlaugh: You have my permission! :floorlaugh:

 

[grandmaj]

We are not sleuthing the Landscaper on WS. Admin can weigh in on this later. One thing for certain if it is true that this is an alias name, then we won't be searching and bringing information here about people with that name who may be totally innocent people with a like name.

Yes, you may discuss this as far as what came out in the Hearing today and what is printed in MSM. No further.

And under no circumstances may you bring rumor from any unlinkable site. Be prepared with your links.

I'm going to repeat.......

We don't know anything about the LS. If you are going to discuss that he owns his own business, what his real name is etc., bring an approved link to the thread please.

 

[Jade2010]

Most folks using an alias are involved in criminal behavior and I think that is the point Houze is trying to make. He's probably thoroughly investigated LS.

 

[gwenabob]

Most folks using an alias are involved in criminal behavior.

I'm not so sure I would agree with such a sweeping generalization. Should we be investigating "Slim" Whitman for criminal activity? How about every Lefty, Red, Butch, Bud, Buck, and all the other nicknames people sometimes use?

 

[Morag]

Most folks using an alias are involved in criminal behavior.

Introducing Mr. Richard Starkey--AKA Ringo Starr!