Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

[Jade2010]

We're talking about a landscaper not a movie star, celebrity, etc.

 

[chasing.halos]

Most folks using an alias are involved in criminal behavior and I think that is the point Houze is trying to make. He's probably thoroughly investigated LS.

It also could have been a jab at LE (like, duh, didn't LE know that isn't his real name?) Or it could have been a jab at "Rudy" himself (like, duh he must be a bad guy because he has an alias cuz bad guys have aliases, right).

(above not my opinion, just speculating)

 

[Jade2010]

I'm not so sure I would agree with such a sweeping generalization. Should we be investigating "Slim" Whitman for criminal activity? How about every Lefty, Red, Butch, Bud, Buck, and all the other nicknames people sometimes use?

GAB, I doubt Houze would even made a point of an alias if it was as simple as a nickname.

 

[Kimster]

Okay everyone. I know we were baited by Houze but we need to not take it to the forum.

We don't know what Rudy's name is right now. He isn't being named and we aren't sleuthing him.

 

[tlcya]

alias n. 1) a name used other the given name of a person or reference to that other name, which may not be an attempt to hide his/her identity (such as Harry for Harold, initials or a maiden name). (See: a.k.a.)

a.k.a. prep. abbreviation for "also known as" when someone uses different initials, a nickname, a maiden or married name. Example: Harold G. Snodgrass, a.k.a. Harry Snodgrass, a.k.a. H. G. Snodgrass, a.k.a. "Snuffy the Snod."

If you follow the actual definition of the terms alias and a.k.a. you will find that almost all of us has at least one alias or a.k.a.

when I was born I had a name. When I was adopted by my stepfather, I had a new or altered name. When I married I received a third alias or aka. When I remarried I got yet another name or aka.

When I call my daughter by her nickname it is an alias.

Just to keep the whole a/k/a alias thing in perspective. People think alias and make the connection to criminal but it just ain't so in the realest sense of what those words mean in the legal community.

 

[Kat010]

I'm not so sure I would agree with such a sweeping generalization. Should we be investigating "Slim" Whitman for criminal activity? How about every Lefty, Red, Butch, Bud, Buck, and all the other nicknames people sometimes use?

Those usually aren't AKAs, not in LE terms. At best, they'd be "Jonathan 'Batboy' Carpenter" or something.

There's a difference between a LE type of AKA, IMO, and normal nicknames. Otherwise, all of us would have AKAs, unless you use your full official name all the time in every setting. Very few of us do.

I believe Houze was referring to a potential LE-related type of AKA. MOO

 

[gwenabob]

Those usually aren't AKAs, not in LE terms. At best, they'd be "Jonathan 'Batboy' Carpenter" or something.

There's a difference between a LE type of AKA, IMO, and normal nicknames. Otherwise, all of us would have AKAs, unless you use your full official name all the time in every setting. Very few of us do.

I believe Houze was referring to a potential LE-related type of AKA. MOO

When we file complaints against someone, and it is applicable, we list all the names the person is known as, eg. "Susan Smith, aka Susan Jones, aka Susan S. Jones, aka Sue Jones."

 

[GrainneDhu]

I'm not so sure. We have no idea what the December 911 call was about. It could have been a domestic disturbance call.

Or Mr Bunch could have misspoken (as one news story suggested). He may have meant to say "June" but got a wire crossed and "December" came out.

Happens to me all the time. I wonder if he's older than 36 (that's when I noticed it really start happening to me and when it started with several friends when I asked them)?

 

[freefallzzzz]

Or Mr Bunch could have misspoken (as one news story suggested). He may have meant to say "June" but got a wire crossed and "December" came out.

Happens to me all the time. I wonder if he's older than 36 (that's when I noticed it really start happening to me and when it started with several friends when I asked them)?

Webpage has been modified.. BBM

Peter Bunch said he's asked for Terri Horman calls to 9-1-1, back to Dec 26th [Note: the Decemeber request my have been mispoken]. But was denied by Sheriff's office saying it's part of "ongoing Investigation." He's tried to serve the landscaper, Rudy Sanchez with subpoena for deposition, but prosecutors wouldn't give him contact information because of the "ongoing investigation." Bunch said Terri called 911 when Sanchez showed up at her house wired "trying to talk to about something". He also said Rudy Sanchez is an AKA (alias).

http://www.katu.com/news/local/104507829.html

 

[GrainneDhu]

I respect your opinion, but this entire case is pure speculation. I am entitled to speculate as to what I want based on the little info that we have. And I think she grabbed that phone awfully fast to call 911 several times the night the MFH sting went down and baby K and Kaine left. She seems to use it to cover herself, not actually because there's an emergency. A man with no weapons who just wants to talk does not constitute an emergency. Don't open the door or talk to him. Tell him to go away. There's no indication that he was at all physically threatening or aggressive towards her. He didn't try to beat her door down or anything, yet she called 911. That seems excessive to me.

I think it goes to show how differently individual see a particular situation.

When I imagine myself in that situation, the first thing I'd be thinking is "I don't see a weapon, where is he hiding it?" Some guy coming to my door with another man I don't know to blackmail me, my very first assumption would be that he's armed.

Blackmailers don't strike me as being terribly law abiding.

As for his being aggressive or threatening, to me, that's one of those situations where the threat could very well be implicit in the situation. It would be like Papa Corleone saying to me "I feel quite moved to make you a deal you can't refuse." He wouldn't have to say "or else you die" for me to understand that those were the terms being offered.

I'd be on 911 as quick as my fingers could dial. To me, that seems reasonable but to you, it would seem unreasonable.

 

[GrainneDhu]

Wait--he's a landscaper and he either did work for TH (according to prior reports) at the Horman home, or wanted to.

And so, to be employed and paid, he gave his employer a fake name? I recently wrote out a large check to one of my landscapers. So, if TH paid the LS with a check for his LS work, what good would it do him to be paid via a false name?

And how can you have insurance coverage for your work, as a small business owner, self-employed, if you seek out jobs under a false name?

This tidbit about RS being an alias was a bombshell. I'm assuming that the alias was provided by LE after they set up the failed sting operation.

But I may be wrong in that. There's so many untruths, half truths, and "what in the heck is that about?" flying around in this case.

The job title "landscaper" can cover a whole variety of jobs, some well paid and some not so well paid.

At the low end of the scale, there are many landscapers who work for cash only. They don't have an official business, a tax number or insurance. Sometimes they don't even have their own tools.

Harvest is in full swing in my state right now. If I wanted a pair of cheap hands to do some weed whacking, brush cutting, trash burning, etc, I can think of several places within a ten mile radius of my home where I could find someone more than happy to work for me for a day for $10-20 more than the farmers are paying.

So, for around $50 per day maximum, I could have cheap help and the only drawback would be that I would have to pay in cash.

I hasten to add that I do not actually operate this way; I have a guy who does my lawn chores who runs a legitimate business and gets paid by check.

 

[Billylee]

Rudy Sanchez is still his name. It's a name he uses. Anyone can use an alias. You can even arrest someone using their alias. An alias is "also known as". So yes, he is known as Rudy Sanchez, and he is also known as some other name(s). I'm not sure what difference it makes here?

 

[passionflower]

There has to be a reason for the alias by LE.........to protect the witness?????
Is he a real hitman? LE? X-con snitch?

 

[Calliope]

alias n. 1) a name used other the given name of a person or reference to that other name, which may not be an attempt to hide his/her identity (such as Harry for Harold, initials or a maiden name). (See: a.k.a.)

a.k.a. prep. abbreviation for "also known as" when someone uses different initials, a nickname, a maiden or married name. Example: Harold G. Snodgrass, a.k.a. Harry Snodgrass, a.k.a. H. G. Snodgrass, a.k.a. "Snuffy the Snod."

If you follow the actual definition of the terms alias and a.k.a. you will find that almost all of us has at least one alias or a.k.a.

when I was born I had a name. When I was adopted by my stepfather, I had a new or altered name. When I married I received a third alias or aka. When I remarried I got yet another name or aka.

When I call my daughter by her nickname it is an alias.

Just to keep the whole a/k/a alias thing in perspective. People think alias and make the connection to criminal but it just ain't so in the realest sense of what those words mean in the legal community.

Snuffy the Snod ?

:floorlaugh:

 

[loves2bmom]

I hope this isn't considered sleuthing him but could it be that he is here illegally and Rudy Sanchez is not his real name.

 

[BeanE]

I have a friend who's a model and she uses an alias because she thinks it sounds... all modelly or something.

Same for a friend who's an actress. She thinks her alias sounds... all actressy.

I use my alias BeanE because... well I just do.

ETA: I was not assigned my BeanE alias by LE. But if I was, I couldn't tell you all.

 

[harleysnana]

From the article:

Peter Bunch: says Kaine’s lawyer has mounds of information from the investigation:


Why would LE assist Kaine in his civil divorce case? This really irritates me.

IMO….
LE has a right to assist in civil divorce cases when they believe criminal activity is involved.

IF someone is filling for divorce and there is some concern about the safety of a child then I don't see a problem with LE assisting with information.

I'm all for protection of the children... maybe that is because I have grandchildren who are protected from their father via a divorce involving criminal activity!

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

...I use my alias BeanE because... well I just do. I was not assigned my BeanE alias by LE. But if I was, I couldn't tell you all.

Respectfully edited. While I've been told that I have Bette Davis Eyes, my name is not Bette Davis, but it's a good alias if I should ever need one

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

 

[Billylee]

Okay, why am I humming the theme from Mr. Ed ?

 

[debs]

I have a friend who's a model and she uses an alias because she thinks it sounds... all modelly or something.

Same for a friend who's an actress. She thinks her alias sounds... all actressy.

I use my alias BeanE because... well I just do.

ETA: I was not assigned my BeanE alias by LE. But if I was, I couldn't tell you all.

It's all because you think you sound all.....BeanEness.