Larry King 8/5 Cindy's Question

[BeanE]

This has sorta been discussed. It has been pointed out that one of the reasons the family didn't help the searches, is because the searches was for a dead body. Cindy's excuse was that she believed CAylee was alive and it was a waste of time.

But other families in the same situations, who also hoped and believed their love one would be found alive, also supported such searches. IF their love one dead, they wanted to know.

It has been pointed out that if a body was found, that it would make it easier to convict KC. ANd might be the real reason Cindy objected so forcibly to the searches.

I've thought all along that Cindy was deliberately denying that Caylee could be dead. Not "in denial", the emotional thing, or the stage of grief, but that it seemed a very conscious and proactive and deliberate denial.

What this transcript is telling me, quite clearly, is Cindy's reason for what I perceive as this deliberate denial.

In keeping with that thought, Cindy can not search for a 'dead' Caylee, or give any public indication that Caylee is, or even may be, dead. To do so would endanger Casey's exoneration of charges.

Lots of things of making sense to me now. Her refusal to provide TES with a piece of Caylee's clothing. Her scathing email about Tim M and L Padillo. Her washing the clothes and knife from the car. Her searching the backyard before the police could get there and search. And on and on.

We've all been thinking and saying how nuts, how senseless it is that Cindy won't search for Caylee. This statement makes it make sense. (Hope I'm making sense lol.)

 

[CHICANA]

Please refer to the 911 calls again and tell me what her motive was for calling. How long into the calls was it before she even mentions Caylee was missing? First was I want my daughter arrested for stealing a car and credit cards, I believe. Repeated. Finally, she gets around to saying something about Caylee.

Remember what you said about reading between the lines ? Based on CA's my space post and the fact that Casey had already had the car a month and they had the car back these 'crimes' occurred way before she called LE. She called LE when she knew Caylee wasn't with Casey and Casey wasn't 'producing' her. $$ gone over a month, car -gone over a month- no call to LE. Knows Caylee's gone and she called 3 times in a row and was hauling Casey's butt to the police dept.

 

[Hope for the Best]

No doubt that this was after CA started believing some of Casey's BS. Trust your first instincts, Cindy. Your daughter did something to her child!

 

[Nedthan Johns]

It's my opinion that not only did Casey not deserve to have Caylee in her life, neither did her Grandmother Cindy. The more we hear from Cindy the clearer it is to see why Casey acts the way she does.

 

[CHICANA]

Casey wasn't her priority in the beginning, I agree. Her priority at that time was the car and the money; Caylee came later, on the THIRD call.

"There can be more than one reason that she wants Caylee found,"

Like, how many reasons do you need to have to want your grandbaby found? Wouldn't ONE reason suffice?

Just my opinion, of course.

But they 'go' together. If Caylee's dead, Casey's guilty.
If Caylee's alive, she's innocent. They go hand in hand.

If she's asked a question about Casey, her response will be about Casey.
If it's about Caylee, it's about Caylee.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Remember what you said about reading between the lines ? Based on CA's my space post and the fact that Casey had already had the car a month and they had the car back these 'crimes' occurred way before she called LE. She called LE when she knew Caylee wasn't with Casey and Casey wasn't 'producing' her. $$ gone over a month, car -gone over a month- no call to LE. Knows Caylee's gone and she called 3 times in a row and was hauling Casey's butt to the police dept.

She knew Caylee was gone long before the 911 calls, imo. 31 days.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I've thought all along that Cindy was deliberately denying that Caylee could be dead. Not "in denial", the emotional thing, or the stage of grief, but that it seemed a very conscious and proactive and deliberate denial.

What this transcript is telling me, quite clearly, is Cindy's reason for what I perceive as this deliberate denial.

In keeping with that thought, Cindy can not search for a 'dead' Caylee, or give any public indication that Caylee is, or even may be, dead. To do so would endanger Casey's exoneration of charges.

Lots of things of making sense to me now. Her refusal to provide TES with a piece of Caylee's clothing. Her scathing email about Tim M and L Padillo. Her washing the clothes and knife from the car. Her searching the backyard before the police could get there and search. And on and on.

We've all been thinking and saying how nuts, how senseless it is that Cindy won't search for Caylee. This statement makes it make sense. (Hope I'm making sense lol.)

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[CHICANA]

I have to disagree with you, Chicana. Cindy has clearly and repeatedly shown that Casey is her main priority. I don't know why that is, but that is what Cindy's behavior has shown emphatically.

On the day the 911 tapes were arrested, a reporter asked Cindy why she'd been saying Casey shouldn't be in jail, when she had called 911 and repeatedly asked them to arrest Casey.

Cindy emphatically stated that she had never asked that Casey be arrested. The reporter told her it was right on the 911 tapes. Cindy flipped her hand dismissively, and said well I haven't listened to them, but I never wanted her arrested.

I find Cindy infinitely more interesting than Casey. I spend quite a bit of time watching and going back and re-watching the many videos of her.

Do we know for a fact that Casey would be in jail and anybody would know Caylee was missing if it wasn't for Cindy ?

 

[CHICANA]

She knew Caylee was gone long before the 911 calls, imo. 31 days.

I disagree and I think LE does also. I was even more convinced after hearing the complete 911 call.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Do we know for a fact that Casey would be in jail and anybody would know Caylee was missing if it wasn't for Cindy ?

The family would know Caylee was missing, but no...they could have covered this forever and Casey would never have been arrested if Cindy had not gotten enraged over the car and the credit cards. I have felt all along that Cindy had an "uh-oh" moment during those calls and realized they would have to explain Caylee's whereabouts. Caylee was an "afterthought" on those 911 calls and I don't think you can convince me she was not.

 

[Spangle]

I've thought all along that Cindy was deliberately denying that Caylee could be dead. Not "in denial", the emotional thing, or the stage of grief, but that it seemed a very conscious and proactive and deliberate denial.

What this transcript is telling me, quite clearly, is Cindy's reason for what I perceive as this deliberate denial.

In keeping with that thought, Cindy can not search for a 'dead' Caylee, or give any public indication that Caylee is, or even may be, dead. To do so would endanger Casey's exoneration of charges.

Lots of things of making sense to me now. Her refusal to provide TES with a piece of Caylee's clothing. Her scathing email about Tim M and L Padillo. Her washing the clothes and knife from the car. Her searching the backyard before the police could get there and search. And on and on.

We've all been thinking and saying how nuts, how senseless it is that Cindy won't search for Caylee. This statement makes it make sense. (Hope I'm making sense lol.)

Wellllllll...... I hope your making sense. Because that is the way my mind has been running as well. I haven't wanted to think this way. But then more pops up. Like this interview.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I disagree and I think LE does also. I was even more convinced after hearing the complete 911 call.

Just because LE has maintained that they are not looking at the grandparents means nothing to me. They have not officially cleared them either.

 

[GreenEyes727]

IF and that is a BIG IF Caylee were to be found alive, KC would NOT be exonerated of all charges cause she did write all those checks, and she did put her child in danger so those charges will in fact stick.


Edited to add that it's nice to know where her priorities are when it comes to Caylee!!

Yeah but this lady talks in circles and never really answers any questions with the proper answers. When you are not lying, you don't have to talk in circles or say stupid things on national tv. We have all seen alot of distraught parents on tv and this one takes the cake.

 

[EastSideOfSaddness]

Sometimes it is the way that you answer or don't answer questions that is very telling. This answer to a very specific question is very telling. You can see what is uppermost in her mind and the fact that she did not answer the actual question is also telling. She knows what happened to Caylee and she does not want to answer so she evades.

Unfortunately, her evasion is almost as bad as not answering the question because it emphasis what is important to her at that moment.

maybe she should have just not answered at all. Or better yet, why cant' you just say "larry, I have no idea what happened to Caylee and I am so upset that I just can't think about it."

I completely agree. Cindy is so wrapped up in "There is no evidence"....blah blah blah. She did this at the bond hearing and in other interviews. Seems she's into the "no evidence" which leads me to believe she's defending her daughter--that's her first priority, not finding Caylee.

 

[GreenEyes727]

I think this is why so little compassion has been shown for them
In the beginning their response was much like everyones else's
They didn't believe Caseys lies, they told Casey that this was all her own fault for not coming forward and for lying to everyone including LE, and they were at least trying to get Casey to tell the truth so they could find Caylee
And then at some point it all changed
So they either believe all her lies now, or they know something now, that they aren't telling anyone including LE.
Either way it doesn't seem right as meanwhile LE and volunteers are searching high and low
While Casey sits in their house, who everyone knows, not just suspects, has lied about everything.

LP keeps saying that it changed at a certain time when Casey confided in Lee and told him what really happened and then he told his mother. I don't know if LP has inside information that he kinda just throws out to us . . . like a bone or if he just likes to run with whatever idea he is running with - don't get me wrong, I think he is a good guy.

 

[altruist1000]

She knew Caylee was gone long before the 911 calls, imo. 31 days.

I agree, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.

The reason for the 911 calls were to get LE to the house to hear the 30 day script prepared by these creatures, IMO.

NEVER BEFORE HAS THE MOTIVATION OF MONEY BEEN SO OBVIOUS, CREATE THE SENSATIONAL STORY TO CAPTURE THE NATIONAL INTEREST, CASH IN.

Creatures like this, the devil is their savior. The ruse is to make it appear they are just like all the other parents & grandparents in the USA/World. Make no mistake, they ARE NOT.

We see really devastated persons pleading for their loved ones, NOT DEMANDING EVERYBODY SEARCH off of their AS***, NOT REQUIRING DONATIONS for donated items displaying the family member.

JMHO & warning, to be very careful who you find yourself recognizing commonality with. There really are MONSTERS among us. THIS IS A SCAM, perpetrated upon the American public, we have NOTHING IN COMMON with this type, imo.

God, hold this small child gently & close for she deserves to be loved.

 

[BeanE]

Do we know for a fact that Casey would be in jail and anybody would know Caylee was missing if it wasn't for Cindy ?

I'll have to separate your question into two.

If we accept Lee's sworn testimony at the bond hearing as truth, then we know for a fact that Lee would know Caylee was missing. Cindy had been in the other room, and it was only after 45 minutes of the three of them being there, and then Cindy going to another room, and Lee telling Casey that Cindy couldn't hear her, that Casey changed her story from 'Caylee's fine, I know where she is, and I'll take you to her in the morning' to 'I haven't seen my daughter for 31 days'.

Cindy unexpectedly walked into the room, and accidentally heard that Caylee was missing. It's then that she made the 3rd 911 call.

Lee tried to get Cindy *not* to call the police, or *not* to call the police *yet*. He thought a few more minutes, and he'd be able to get out of Casey what had happened that she hadn't seen Caylee for 31 days.

George was on his way home. Would they have told him? I don't know. I think so.

Had Cindy not been the one to pick up the phone, would Lee? Would George? I don't know. I think so.

But in that 3rd call, Cindy wasn't asking for Casey to be arrested in regards to Caylee (nor was she in the first 2 911 calls). She was asking for help in finding Caylee. I don't think she expected Casey to be arrested in regards to Caylee. I don't think she wanted Casey to be arrested in regards to Caylee. Everything speaks to the contrary.

It's not because of Cindy that Casey is in jail. It was LE's decision based on Casey's lies.

What it comes down to is happenstance that led to LE finally deciding to arrest Casey, and a judge deciding there was reason to keep her there under a very high bail.

Cindy did not take any deliberate action in hopes that Casey would be arrested and put in jail in regards to Caylee.

 

[lin]

It wasn't her only motive when she called 911 & said she wanted her arrested, then according to LE was calling them every 5 minutes to see if they'd found out where Caylee was.
If her priority was to defend Casey, we wouldn't know that Caylee was missing.

I defended Cindy and George for a long time, and took a lot of heat from family and friends, btw, because of this fact and that
George pulled detectives aside day 1 and told them he and Cindy believed Casey was withholding info and that they feared something may have happened to Caylee. I made excuse after excuse for them. Again, I took a LOT of heat, even from my own mother, but I felt sorry for them and defended them.

As time went by, my opinions changed, right along with their priorities, imo. The more I see and hear from them and about them, the less I think of them and the more I regret my ardent defense of them early on.

IMO it's all about the $$ and Casey now.

Those calls and statements were over 2 months ago.

What have they done for Caylee lately?

 

[diablo]

when I read that quote backwards it says "I know my daughter killed my grandaughter but thats done now, so I'll do anything to protect her. She can have another kid, but not if she's in jail"

 

[lin]

I agree, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.

The reason for the 911 calls were to get LE to the house to hear the 30 day script prepared by these creatures, IMO.

NEVER BEFORE HAS THE MOTIVATION OF MONEY BEEN SO OBVIOUS, CREATE THE SENSATIONAL STORY TO CAPTURE THE NATIONAL INTEREST, CASH IN.

Creatures like this, the devil is their savior. The ruse is to make it appear they are just like all the other parents & grandparents in the USA/World. Make no mistake, they ARE NOT.

We see really devastated persons pleading for their loved ones, NOT DEMANDING EVERYBODY SEARCH off of their AS***, NOT REQUIRING DONATIONS for donated items displaying the family member.

JMHO & warning, to be very careful who you find yourself recognizing commonality with. There really are MONSTERS among us. THIS IS A SCAM, perpetrated upon the American public, we have NOTHING IN COMMON with this type, imo.

God, hold this small child gently & close for she deserves to be loved.

You may like these threads about Anthony donations:

Beginning of thread:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70537&highlight=anthony+donations

Part deux:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70829&highlight=anthony+donations

Part 3 (current) thread:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71309

Hope to see you there!

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