LE serves search warrant on family home #4

[marge_rita]

Sad thing, the highly trained professionals are not always competent.

Tell me, how can one call LE imcompetent if one doesn't live in that town and know them personally? kwim

 

[LancelotLink]

I didnt know they got a new cell phone? It could be a new hard drive? Speaking of cell phones...How in the world do you program cell phones when your drunk? Just sayin...

You don't. She has more holes in more stories...I think her VanderSloot lawyer knows exactly what happened in that house and told her, you gotta get rid of this, all of it!! Tell them you were drunk, so drunk, you can't be counted on for your past statements and no further use to the investigation.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Norest, the mods just told us to be nice so please don't tell CarrieBean her mind is a jumbled mess............we'll all go in time-out! :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

LOL....I'm innocent. All I did was agree with her! And, for what it's worth, MY mind is a jumbled mess in all this too!:crazy:

 

[askfornina]

She really did. She told MK after changing her story and announcing to the world and LE that she was too drunk to be taken seriously, that she was not going to allow the boys to be niterviewed again. I especially appreciated the way she said it, as if she had already given LE access to them once, what more could they want? Well, Deb, that was before you jerked the entire timeline out from under the very people who are trying to find your "kidnapped" baby.

how do you know she didn't tell LE about the drinking?

 

[JeannieC]

I'm stuck on the phones.

Didn't I notice a chimney on the roof? Maybe they were looking down the chimney.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Tell me, how can one call LE imcompetent if one doesn't live in that town and know them personally? kwim

Exactly!

 

[LancelotLink]

traumatized///////////////////////////////////////////////////:banghead:

The mom went on national tv and admitted she was sitting around drinking a box of wine and was drunk.....maybe even blacked out.


She should feel trauma. She got the drunk when she had 3 children under her watch. One of them --a 10 month old baby 'disappeared'.

She should feel lots of trauma.
She gets no sympathy from me.

imo

Not only did she take herself out of the equation by claiming to be shatfaced drunk, she is refusing to give LE access to the only other witnesses. She's slick, but not nearly slick enough. I'm guessing the FBI is all over her like stink on a rose.

 

[Lera213]

you don't. She has more holes in more stories...i think her vandersloot lawyer knows exactly what happened in that house and told her, you gotta get rid of this, all of it!! Tell them you were drunk, so drunk, you can't be counted on for your past statements and no further use to the investigation.

bingo

 

[Chris_Texas]

It has become a fact now that likely perps walk because LE has not found a body. No more logic and no more piecing together of facts and evidence. Look at the jury in the Anthony trial. They expected a 1 hr show of CSI to convict. They didn't even have brains or cared to make time to figure it out. They wanted machines like they have on "Bones" to prove the case for them.

Our society and its need for speed has got way out of hand. People can't or won't even use their logic anymore. This case comes down to common sense. How often are ten month old babies kidnapped by strangers?

I had one who kidpnapped a three month old but that was for rape...Yes, it happens!! I hope and pray we are not looking at another sexual pervert like that...I don't think we are. Chances would be one in a million. The point is what would prompt a stranger to steal a ten month old?

While I think there is some truth to this, I don't believe the Anthony trial was the best example. In that trial we saw the prosecution attempting to put together a CSI show type case based on some fairly thin science, while simultaniously ignoring the most damning facts about Casey. As it turned out this was not exactly the best tactic. Everyone, it seemed, was on trial... except Casey.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I believe that they have found all kinds of crucial evidence. They just need a body now.

So now we know she is dead and no need to look for a live child, just leave her out there with whoever, and focus on the parents? All this based on no clear evidence she has parted this earth? :banghead:

 

[LancelotLink]

how do you know she didn't tell LE about the drinking?

I don't. I have only heard that LE found the receipt and had to go to the store and obtain surveillance video. Doesn't sound like she was forthcoming. And I also don't know where the wine ended up. I don't know if she even had a glass, much less 5-10.

 

[MamaK]

Actually, MamaK, the rules only state that an application must be signed and that the applicant attests to the truthfulness. Some states even allow applicants to supply a "purchase and prepare separately" document when unmarried people who live together seek food stamp assistance. Work exceptions are also given to parents with infants. But when a tip comes in that indicates a person is defrauding the system, an investigator is sent out to the house and jumping through the hoops does begin. I think this is true in every state.

I bet the State of Missouri is all over this case. It's been a few years since I worked for an HHS economic assistance unit. The gaming of the system is rampant and the age of computers is finally weeding out deceit.

JMO

We don't even know if they have ever applied to be on WIC or food stamps. Who knows? They might not be on either. I was just looking to see if, based on JI's income, they would be eligible.

 

[norest4thewicked]

So now we know she is dead and no need to look for a live child, just leave her out there with whoever, and focus on the parents? All this based on no clear evidence she has parted this earth? :banghead:

I'm curious as to how you know that LE does not have clear evidence?

 

[Lera213]

I big part of me is glad that no information has leaked out about the search, even though I'm so eager to learn, I also know the more I don't know the better for a conviction and to find Lisa.

It just drives me nuts not to know. Its like watching a glass fall off the counter but you cannot catch it in time.

 

[SmoothOperator]

I don't have a clue what has happened to Lisa and I sure as he!! don't like Debs a
Bit for an entire plethora of reasons.. Nonetheless I havent a clue if she hurt, sold, or murdered her child.. I believe that LE absolutely said all that chit to her along with pulling tricks out of their bag!!(and I didn't pull it outta my azz about what went on.. The parents talk about in detail in one of the early sit down interviews.. Link located in the media links thread).. I believe it because I have got more than enough family members that range from beat cops to detectives, to law professors, to my ex husband works for the FBI.. And know what type techniques are used in "extraordinary circumstances" and baby Lisa's disappearance is just that therefor LE pull out all the stops.. Great that's there job but I've seen it happen too many times that they stop at the parents.. Jump to conclusions THEY DID IT, THEY KILLED THEIR CHILD.. and if its not noticed that in my posts(plural cuz there's several) that I state that if this were me and my husband and our child and I knew we'd not harmed our child.. I would not continue being told I'm a murderer for endless hours hoping that in the end they break my azz down enough that they give me that" out" several were talking about earlier that it was an accident and for to me to just admit to that "accident".. Just like what happened with Riley Fox's dad.. It happens! And I am well aware of it and I certainly won't jump on the BAndwagon that mom killed Lisa!! If she did then it will all come out..

I'm telling like it is in looking at it from an innocent PERSON's perspective.. It's a possibility still and Ive become quite comfortable on the fence.. Waiting to see more come to light.. Evidence not judgements convince and prove guilt!!

And I just love the love the word "unfettered" too..:sticks out tongue:

 

[MamaK]

I've never been on WIC or food stamps or worked in any of those agencies so I don't know all the ins and outs. Interesting though how easy it is to fraud the system. I don't like it when people try to "get over." KWIM?

 

[MyBelle]

how do you know she didn't tell LE about the drinking?

Deductive reasoning. LE told the media they found the receipt for the wine. If DB had told LE about the wine, there would be no need to pull security video from the store.

JMO

 

[linajoy]

So now we know she is dead and no need to look for a live child, just leave her out there with whoever, and focus on the parents? All this based on no clear evidence she has parted this earth? :banghead:

Watching the parents interaction/expressions and listening to DB talk herself into a hole is all the evidence I need. Walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's a ......

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I'm curious as to how you know that LE does not have clear evidence?

I wasn't quoting LE, I was quoting the poster who said there IS a body to be looking for. :banghead:

 

[cluciano63]

I can't get a feel at all for whether the searching was so extensive because they found something (or learned something) that made them search the way they did, or if they were doing a final, thorough search of the property. I am sure there will be many days, if not weeks, of testing ahead, to determine if anything they found is useful, unless they found the phones, in which case something may break sooner.

I have seen nothing to believe LE is unprofessional or incompetent or anything less than determined to solve this case and find Lisa and keep their investigation quiet, all of which is what should be happening, IMO. If I ever have to choose who is telling the truth between LE and anyone else, I will take LE every time, unless the officer(s) in question have some nefarious history. JMOJMOJMO