LE serves search warrant on family home #4

[MyBelle]

I've never been on WIC or food stamps or worked in any of those agencies so I don't know all the ins and outs. Interesting though how easy it is to fraud the system. I don't like it when people try to "get over." KWIM?

A person would be a fool to try to defraud the system today. It's all computerized.

JMO

 

[marge_rita]

So now we know she is dead and no need to look for a live child, just leave her out there with whoever, and focus on the parents? All this based on no clear evidence she has parted this earth? :banghead:

D2M1MT,
humm where did you read that there's no need to look for this child? :waitasec:

 

[norest4thewicked]

I don't have a clue what has happened to Lisa and I sure as he!! don't like Debs a
Bit for an entire plethora of reasons.. Nonetheless I havent a clue if she hurt, sold, or murdered her child.. I believe that LE absolutely said all that chit to her along with pulling tricks out of their bag!!(and I didn't pull it outta my azz about what went on.. The parents talk about in detail in one of the early sit down interviews.. Link located in the media links thread).. I believe it because I have got more than enough family members that range from beat cops to detectives, to law professors, to my ex husband works for the FBI.. And know what type techniques are used in "extraordinary circumstances" and baby Lisa's disappearance is just that therefor LE pull out all the stops.. Great that's there job but I've seen it happen too many times that they stop at the parents.. Jump to conclusions THEY DID IT, THEY KILLED THEIR CHILD.. and if its not noticed that in my posts(plural cuz there's several) that I state that if this were me and my husband and our child and I knew we'd not harmed our child.. I would not continue being told I'm a murderer for endless hours hoping that in the end they break my azz down enough that they give me that" out" several were talking about earlier that it was an accident and for to me to just admit to that "accident".. Just like what happened with Riley Fox's dad.. It happens! And I am well aware of it and I certainly won't jump on the BAndwagon that mom killed Lisa!! If she did then it will all come out..

I'm telling like it is in looking at it from an innocent PERSON's perspective.. It's a possibility still and Ive become quite comfortable on the fence.. Waiting to see more come to light.. Evidence not judgements convince and prove guilt!!

And I just love the love the word "unfettered" too..:sticks out tongue:

I was on the fence too...until the parents started talking and changing their story...and doing several different things that made me jump right off the fence.

I also am from a law enforcement background. In fact, I lived and worked in Kansas City for LE. My husband is retired (25 years) of LE and now is an investigator. Doesn't make me know anymore about this than you do. However, I know the odds and also know how LE operates. And, I believe at least DB is guilty.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I wasn't quoting LE, I was quoting the poster who said there IS a body to be looking for. :banghead:

And, I was asking how you know that LE doesn't have clear evidence. Must be miscommunication...never mind.

 

[Jaxson]

Deductive reasoning. LE told the media they found the receipt for the wine. If DB had told LE about the wine, there would be no need to pull security video from the store.

JMO

Why wouldn't they pull the video just to prove she was where she said she was doing what she said she was doing and with whom? They aren't gonna just believe her right? No they verify.

 

[AlmostGone]

A person would be a fool to try to defraud the system today. It's all computerized.

JMO

I dont live in the best area of my town and we have this store that got busted for letting people buy smokes with their food stamps, pay cell phone bills, and all sorts of shady stuff.. The hubby and I call it "the shady store" lol They have a old fashioned register so they can punch in any price they want...its crazy

 

[MamaK]

A person would be a fool to try to defraud the system today. It's all computerized.

JMO

Well, thank goodness for that! :woohoo:

...and with that I'm off to sleep...

 

[marge_rita]

I don't have a clue what has happened to Lisa and I sure as he!! don't like Debs a

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You can look at it from an innocent parent's pov alll you want....It doesn't change anything.

FACT--woman admits she was drunk the night her baby 'disappears'. :banghead:

FACT --much points to one of these parents being a perp in a crime. :furious:

FACT--Mom won't allow son and step son to talk to LE and other professionals. :hand:

FACT--I have a chit load of relatives who are sherriffs, LE officers, 1 FBI, 1 attorney;

Doesnt have a daum thing to do with this case.

imo

 

[norest4thewicked]

Why wouldn't they pull the video just to prove she was where she said she was doing what she said she was doing and with whom? They aren't gonna just believe her right? No they verify.

That's the point. She never said she was at the grocery store and LE discovered it when they found the receipt on their initial search.

 

[marge_rita]

I was on the fence too...until the parents started talking and changing their story...and doing several different things that made me jump right off the fence.

I also am from a law enforcement background. In fact, I lived and worked in Kansas City for LE. My husband is retired (25 years) of LE and now is an investigator. Doesn't make me know anymore about this than you do. However, I know the odds and also know how LE operates. And, I believe at least DB is guilty.

:woohoo:

Thanks nr4tw.

 

[Lera213]

I think we are going to have to get all of us in a chat room to talk about this case soon. lol

 

[LancelotLink]

Why wouldn't they pull the video just to prove she was where she said she was doing what she said she was doing and with whom? They aren't gonna just believe her right? No they verify.

From what I have heard, they found the receipt. To me, that means the info was never offered up. Why they went for video? Perhaps she tried to deny it was her purchase? I dunno. But, I have a feeling we will all know soon.

 

[JeannieC]

Well, I don't know who did what with who behind who's barn but I know someone hasn't been honest and that lack of honesty has hampered the investigation into the disappearance of precious little Lisa.

Lisa is the only one who matters here. Not DB or her feeling and not JL and his feelings. Just Lisa.

These two adults need to get a grip and tell the truth now rather than latter. I believe the longer they wait the harder it will be on them. Their own actions are convicting them, not the the media and not public opinion. Their actions!

I don't know if they are quilty of anything more than Momma getting drunk and passing out. Probably hiding evidence too. jmo

I just hope and pray that DB's lies haven't cost Lisa her life, if she was still alive after that night.

moo

 

[Lera213]

I was in chat room with other WS'ers during the entire CA trial and let me tell you, it was the best!

 

[MyBelle]

Why wouldn't they pull the video just to prove she was where she said she was doing what she said she was doing and with whom? They aren't gonna just believe her right? No they verify.

Her receipt would verify the purchase of baby items. I doubt she told cops she bought a box of wine and that is why they pulled security video.

JMO

 

[AngelWings444]

We don't JeannieC, all speculation since it was pointed out when DB bought the wine she paid for the wine separately from the wipes and baby food. The speculation is since she paid separately maybe it was because on food stamps or any other welfare system you cannot buy alcohol

Did DB pay for the wine separately? I didn't know that. I do know the food stamps and welfare is speculation, but I haven't heard the other items were purchased separate from the wine.

Can I buy a clue? :floorlaugh:

 

[Lera213]

Well, I don't know who did what with who behind who's barn but I know someone hasn't been honest and that lack of honesty has hampered the investigation into the disappearance of precious little Lisa.

Lisa is the only one who matters here. Not DB or her feeling and not JL and his feelings. Just Lisa.

These two adults need to get a grip and tell the truth now rather than latter. I believe the longer they wait the harder it will be on them. Their own actions are convicting them, not the the media and not public opinion. Their actions!

I don't know if they are quilty of anything more than Momma getting drunk and passing out. Probably hiding evidence too. jmo

I just hope and pray that DB's lies haven't cost Lisa her life, if she was still alive after that night.

moo

BBM

All do respect and an honest question here. If you don't think the parents have been honest how can you believe she was even drunk? How do you pick and chose which statement she says is the truth and is not the truth? Curious

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

D2M1MT,
humm where did you read that there's no need to look for this child? :waitasec:

I had quoted a post a couple pages back that said basically, all they need now is to find the body. i'll go back and see if I can find the one I quoted.

" Chris Texas: I believe that they have found all kinds of crucial evidence. They just need a body now. "

 

[Lera213]

Did DB pay for the wine separately? I didn't know that. I do know the food stamps and welfare is speculation, but I haven't heard the other items were purchased separate from the wine.

Can I buy a clue? :floorlaugh:

Oh HECK! Now I'm not even sure of that....LOL

Look going with the flow sometimes...a bad habit of mine.

 

[LancelotLink]

And, OT as it is, I don't know "Debs" so have no compunction to like or dislike. I am only trying to sleuth a very bizarre case that involves very bizarre and ever evolving, er changing stories.
And a search warrant was and should always be neccessary if we want the truth.