LE serves search warrant on family home #4

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  • #761
People keep saying that the parents are being railroaded by LE and the media. Not a bit of my thoughts about DB and possibly JI being guilty in this is anything done by either LE or the media. It's all them. I supported them in the beginning. Their own words and their acting guilty is what changed my mind.
 
  • #762
That's the point. She never said she was at the grocery store and LE discovered it when they found the receipt on their initial search.


How do you know she didn't tell them. LE hasn't told us her story. Did Deborah say she hadn't told them?
 
  • #763
What if the wine was the carrier of the cell phones...what if, when they left the house, they took that wine. LE cannot verify how much she drank because she took it with them when they left and LE didn't know about it the first night. Makes me wonder...again this is speculation as usual
 
  • #764
Tell me, how can one call LE imcompetent if one doesn't live in that town and know them personally? kwim

I think CB was making a statement in general, not towards LE in this case. Kwim?
 
  • #765
Well, I don't know who did what with who behind who's barn but I know someone hasn't been honest and that lack of honesty has hampered the investigation into the disappearance of precious little Lisa.

Lisa is the only one who matters here. Not DB or her feeling and not JL and his feelings. Just Lisa.

These two adults need to get a grip and tell the truth now rather than latter. I believe the longer they wait the harder it will be on them. Their own actions are convicting them, not the the media and not public opinion. Their actions!

I don't know if they are quilty of anything more than Momma getting drunk and passing out. Probably hiding evidence too. jmo

I just hope and pray that DB's lies haven't cost Lisa her life, if she was still alive after that night.

moo


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  • #766
I dont live in the best area of my town and we have this store that got busted for letting people buy smokes with their food stamps, pay cell phone bills, and all sorts of shady stuff.. The hubby and I call it "the shady store" lol They have a old fashioned register so they can punch in any price they want...its crazy

I'm guessin they got busted because the State auditors took a look at their "old-fashioned" methods.

JMO
 
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  • #768
I personally don't think it has any thing to do with incompetence, per se. I think it has more to do with control by confusion. Oldest trick in the book. I don't think this was all media induced. I clearly see the sensationalism, however, a lot of the confusion started to come to a halt when the parents shut up. Their stories changed with each interviewer... which led to over half of the problem. While I do see that there was moments that I could give credit for the fact these were potentially highly traumatized parents... as the days rolled by, and the more they talked, the more confusion set in.

If it were my child I'd be on every station by press conference answering all questions, squelching all rumors unless instructed by LE that I should not. I don't care if it turned into a never-ending tennis match... That's my baby is the only thing that would be running through my head. NOTHING would take precedence.

I feel pretty confident that LE knows quite a bit more than we do. I think they most likely have enough evidence, but it may be circumstantial. I have felt quite a bit of patronizing going on.

I believe the Network paid this atty in lieu for the interviews and Mr. Talking-Bobble-head Joe atty and Wild Bill are in it as with every other case, sensationalism. Absolutely NO professionalism. Now, even they are maintaining that they are not saying these parents are innocent or guilty.

What I am being asked to believe is that....

A self admitted drunk kid, who takes "Anxiety" meds, that comes from a family of high dysfunction, who is known for her "attention seeking behaviors" which reportedly has a history of chaos and drama with others, and a history of poor decision making skill, is only 25 years old and two children from two fathers (not ending the first marriage prior to this current relationship), left her ill child COMPLETELY unattended for 9-10 hours. (No diaper change?), citing indignantly on NATIONAL TV that she has the "right to alcoholic adult time", showing NO remorse (believes her own lie) for the consequence of this irresponsible behavior (only on cue- not her fault, not her fault, not her fault!), and by temper-tantrum will not work with the very authorities that can help her poor child...

That she should not be considered a suspect?
 
  • #769
BBM

All do respect and an honest question here. If you don't think the parents have been honest how can you believe she was even drunk? How do you pick and chose which statement she says is the truth and is not the truth? Curious

High priced lawyers know how to get you reasonable doubt really quickly. See how this has taken off, as if it had wings...all the talking heads are fairly peeing their pants over this unfit mother BS. Completely missing the mark. Only a few see this for what it is. Bless her heart, even JVM copped a clue...
 
  • #770
Her receipt would verify the purchase of baby items. I doubt she told cops she bought a box of wine and that is why they pulled security video.

JMO

The receipt wouldn't verify that Deborah bought anything. Only that items were purchased by someone. You DOUBT? how about a link because I hadn't heard any where that she didn't tell them.
 
  • #771
Oh HECK! Now I'm not even sure of that....LOL

Look going with the flow sometimes...a bad habit of mine.

That bad habit becomes known as facts sometimes, like the rumored garage sale. LOL!! No worries. Glad to know I wasn't losing it again. This case is going by so fast but yet, nothing. :maddening:
 
  • #772
I personally don't think it has any thing to do with incompetence, per se. I think it has more to do with control by confusion. Oldest trick in the book. I don't think this was all media induced. I clearly see the sensationalism, however, a lot of the confusion started to come to a halt when the parents shut up. Their stories changed with each interviewer... which led to over half of the problem. While I do see that there was moments that I could give credit for the fact these were potentially highly traumatized parents... as the days rolled by, and the more they talked, the more confusion set in.

If it were my child I'd be on every station by press conference answering all questions, squelching all rumors unless instructed by LE that I should not. I don't care if it turned into a never-ending tennis match... That's my baby is the only thing that would be running through my head. NOTHING would take precedence.

I feel pretty confident that LE knows quite a bit more than we do. I think they most likely have enough evidence, but it may be circumstantial. I have felt quite a bit of patronizing going on.

I believe the Network paid this atty in lieu for the interviews and Mr. Talking-Bobble-head Joe atty and Wild Bill are in it as with every other case, sensationalism. Absolutely NO professionalism. Now, even they are maintaining that they are not saying these parents are innocent or guilty.

What I am being asked to believe is that....

A self admitted drunk kid, who takes "Anxiety" meds, that comes from a family of high dysfunction, who is known for her "attention seeking behaviors" which reportedly has a history of chaos and drama with others, and a history of poor decision making skill, is only 25 years old and two children from two fathers (not ending the first marriage prior to this current relationship), left her ill child COMPLETELY unattended for 9-10 hours. (No diaper change?), citing indignantly on NATIONAL TV that she has the "right to alcoholic adult time", showing NO remorse (believes her own lie) for the consequence of this irresponsible behavior (only on cue- not her fault, not her fault, not her fault!), and by temper-tantrum will not work with the very authorities that can help her poor child...

That she should not be considered a suspect?

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  • #773
That bad habit becomes known as facts sometimes, like the rumored garage sale. LOL!! No worries. Glad to know I wasn't losing it again. This case is going by so fast but yet, nothing. :maddening:

I didn't start the garage sale, I tried to dispel it as rumor.
 
  • #774
That bad habit becomes known as facts sometimes, like the rumored garage sale. LOL!! No worries. Glad to know I wasn't losing it again. This case is going by so fast but yet, nothing. :maddening:


Hey now , Nursebeeme is the one who posted the garage sale as fact and she is a mod. I so trusted her....lol
 
  • #775
BBM

All do respect and an honest question here. If you don't think the parents have been honest how can you believe she was even drunk? How do you pick and chose which statement she says is the truth and is not the truth? Curious

"I put Lisa down at 7:30. Checked on her at 10:30"

"No, I put Lisa down about 6:40 and didn't check on her."
"I got drunk and passed out, don't remember anything."


Ok which is true? Only one is true and one is a lie. Either way, she lied. Doesn't matter which I choose to believe, she hasn't been honest. moo
 
  • #776
Did DB pay for the wine separately? I didn't know that. I do know the food stamps and welfare is speculation, but I haven't heard the other items were purchased separate from the wine.

Can I buy a clue? :floorlaugh:

I thought the cashier made the statement that the wine was purchased seperately. :waitasec:
 
  • #777
I didn't start the garage sale, I tried to dispel it as rumor.
I know and thank you! I think we are all getting a little antsy to get answers/info in this case, and to bring little Lisa home. I applaud LE for keeping a tight lid on this case, hoping and praying they have information and release it soon! I want Lisa home NOW, one way or the other. I want the persons involved to be in jail, NOW!

I think this is something we all can agree on. :heartbeat:
 
  • #778
The receipt wouldn't verify that Deborah bought anything. Only that items were purchased by someone. You DOUBT? how about a link because I hadn't heard any where that she didn't tell them.

The police were aware of the receipt for the alcohol. I remember distinctly the media reporting that the Police were aware; how? I cannot answer. I do remember this statement being made somewhere.

I have a sneaking suspicion that's when she admitted to "blacking out" in questioning that would become a reason to shut up and lawyer up. According to NY Joe, that coincides with the time he states they started talking to him.

He's obviously not doing them any favors sending them on national TV to incriminate themselves...
 
  • #779
"I put Lisa down at 7:30. Checked on her at 10:30"

"No, I put Lisa down about 6:40 and didn't check on her."
"I got drunk and passed out, don't remember anything."


Ok which is true? Only one is true and one is a lie. Either way, she lied. Doesn't matter which I choose to believe, she hasn't been honest. moo

ITA

Indeed. Now, imagine you are LE, trying to find this missing baby and you hear this on national TV. WTH??? Y-ea-h-, here is a really concerned parent....
 
  • #780
The receipt wouldn't verify that Deborah bought anything. Only that items were purchased by someone. You DOUBT? how about a link because I hadn't heard any where that she didn't tell them.

Why would a receipt be in her possession if she didn't purchase the items?

As I said, deductive reasoning is what I'm using to conclude DB didn't tell cops about the wine purchase. No link.

JMO
 
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