LE serves search warrant on family home #4

[AngelWings444]

Hey now , Nursebeeme is the one who posted the garage sale as fact and she is a mod. I so trusted her....lol

Thanks for calling me out and getting me in trouble. Geez. Now Kimster will come in and zap me. I am toast. Nice knowing all of you. LOL!

Can I save myself and try to get back on topic? Search warrant anyone?

 

[Lera213]

"I put Lisa down at 7:30. Checked on her at 10:30"

"No, I put Lisa down about 6:40 and didn't check on her."
"I got drunk and passed out, don't remember anything."


Ok which is true? Only one is true and one is a lie. Either way, she lied. Doesn't matter which I choose to believe, she hasn't been honest. moo

I agree she lied just wanted to know why you believe she actually was drunk. Is it because she said so and she bought it? If she lied on other things how can you be sure she isn't lying about other stuff or all of it. I just don't know how to pick in choose so my choice is not to believe anything she has said. Just wanted to know how you came to the conclusion to believe her statement she was drunk.

 

[LancelotLink]

The police were aware of the receipt for the alcohol. I remember distinctly the media reporting that the Police were aware; how? I cannot answer. I do remember this statement being made somewhere.

I have a sneaking suspicion that's when she admitted to "blacking out" in questioning that would become a reason to shut up and lawyer up. According to NY Joe, that coincides with the time he states they started talking to him.

He's obviously not doing them any favors sending them on national TV to incriminate themselves...

No, he is not, but he sure as heck is helping them down the road with the whole reasonable doubt.

 

[LancelotLink]

Search warrant....and I heard one of the reporters today from early on state something about them having a yard sale. Search warrant and I tried to see if the baby's room had carpet for Whisperer, but can only assume it did.

 

[Jaxson]

Why would a receipt be in her possession if she didn't purchase the items?

As I said, deductive reasoning is what I'm using to conclude DB didn't tell cops about the wine purchase. No link.

JMO

Okay fair enough then. My deductive reasoning says LE asked her what she did that day. She gave them her story. They wanted proof. She gave them receipt for that portion of her time. They got video and verified it. Simple really. I guess it could go either way.

 

[n4k]

Did DB pay for the wine separately? I didn't know that. I do know the food stamps and welfare is speculation, but I haven't heard the other items were purchased separate from the wine.

Can I buy a clue? :floorlaugh:

Angel, I was like you about the two receipt thing. I first read it here [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7245737&postcount=137"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Interviews 10/17/2011 All interviews #2[/ame] a few nights ago. I'm sure further back in the thread it is mentioned with links? I'm not sure of the significance of two receipts, though.

 

[RT51]

I admit if this was my situation, I would be a little like JI as I don't wear my emotions on my sleeve, (I would be an internal mess!) but I would certainly put forth the effort to find my child. I don't think I would interview but I would give statements begging for the return of my child. And I would most certainly work with LE to find my child! High profile lawyers, no, honest ones, yes. I would do whatever I could to aid in the rescue of my child! JMO

 

[JeannieC]

I personally don't think it has any thing to do with incompetence, per se. I think it has more to do with control by confusion. Oldest trick in the book. I don't think this was all media induced. I clearly see the sensationalism, however, a lot of the confusion started to come to a halt when the parents shut up. Their stories changed with each interviewer... which led to over half of the problem. While I do see that there was moments that I could give credit for the fact these were potentially highly traumatized parents... as the days rolled by, and the more they talked, the more confusion set in.

If it were my child I'd be on every station by press conference answering all questions, squelching all rumors unless instructed by LE that I should not. I don't care if it turned into a never-ending tennis match... That's my baby is the only thing that would be running through my head. NOTHING would take precedence.

I feel pretty confident that LE knows quite a bit more than we do. I think they most likely have enough evidence, but it may be circumstantial. I have felt quite a bit of patronizing going on.

I believe the Network paid this atty in lieu for the interviews and Mr. Talking-Bobble-head Joe atty and Wild Bill are in it as with every other case, sensationalism. Absolutely NO professionalism. Now, even they are maintaining that they are not saying these parents are innocent or guilty.

What I am being asked to believe is that....

A self admitted drunk kid, who takes "Anxiety" meds, that comes from a family of high dysfunction, who is known for her "attention seeking behaviors" which reportedly has a history of chaos and drama with others, and a history of poor decision making skill, is only 25 years old and two children from two fathers (not ending the first marriage prior to this current relationship), left her ill child COMPLETELY unattended for 9-10 hours. (No diaper change?), citing indignantly on NATIONAL TV that she has the "right to alcoholic adult time", showing NO remorse (believes her own lie) for the consequence of this irresponsible behavior (only on cue- not her fault, not her fault, not her fault!), and by temper-tantrum will not work with the very authorities that can help her poor child...

That she should not be considered a suspect?

AMEN and pass the plate! :twocents::angel::boohoo:raying:
:singing:

 

[MyBelle]

Okay fair enough then. My deductive reasoning says LE asked her what she did that day. She gave them her story. They wanted proof. She gave them receipt for that portion of her time. They got video and verified it. Simple really. I guess it could go either way.

DB admitted to the wine and also changed her timeline to 6:40 pm and said she never again checked on Lisa. That's not something she told LE in the beginning.

JMO

 

[LancelotLink]

How do you know she didn't tell them. LE hasn't told us her story. Did Deborah say she hadn't told them?

Sorry, Deborah has squandered any credibility for me.

 

[JeannieC]

Okay fair enough then. My deductive reasoning says LE asked her what she did that day. She gave them her story. They wanted proof. She gave them receipt for that portion of her time. They got video and verified it. Simple really. I guess it could go either way.

LE found the receipt during the first search and checked the video at the store. She didn't tell it. Check the media links. They have the story.

 

[n4k]

I admit if this was my situation, I would be a little like JI as I don't wear my emotions on my sleeve, (I would be an internal mess!) but I would certainly put forth the effort to find my child. I don't think I would interview but I would give statements begging for the return of my child. And I would most certainly work with LE to find my child! High profile lawyers, no, honest ones, yes. I would do whatever I could to aid in the rescue of my child! JMO

I wonder if JI may be secretly working wit LE? Perhaps he suspects DB but is trying to keep lines of communication open? He just seems withdrawn from her to me.

 

[RT51]

I wonder if JI may be secretly working wit LE? Perhaps he suspects DB but is trying to keep lines of communication open? He just seems withdrawn from her to me.

It is possible. Weren't they taken away seperately on Wednesday by a woman in a SUV?

 

[Jaxson]

LE found the receipt during the first search and checked the video at the store. She didn't tell it. Check the media links. They have the story.

I heard the media the night LE asked for the video. They sensationalized it, (unidentified man and all that crap,and LE said not true) so I have some trouble with them. LE clarified the next day when the video was released to media. Le hasn't said she didn't tell them about it.

 

[BaileyandBella]

I think the phones are long gone by now.

 

[JeannieC]

I agree she lied just wanted to know why you believe she actually was drunk. Is it because she said so and she bought it? If she lied on other things how can you be sure she isn't lying about other stuff or all of it. I just don't know how to pick in choose so my choice is not to believe anything she has said. Just wanted to know how you came to the conclusion to believe her statement she was drunk.

It makes more sense to believe she was drunk and put the baby down at 6:40and never checked on her again than to believe she put her down at 6:40 and never checked on her again and wasn't drunk! Lisa was sick. She would have needed checked on, changed, maybe a bottle.

So she was either drunk and negligent or just negligent.

 

[JeannieC]

I wonder if JI may be secretly working wit LE? Perhaps he suspects DB but is trying to keep lines of communication open? He just seems withdrawn from her to me.

In the interview where DB admitted to being drunk I notice she reached for his hand and he didn't budge to take her hand. The camera stayed there for a while and you could see she laid her hand on top of his but he didn't budge.

I don't believe he was involved and I do believe he is heartbroken beyond belief. Totally in shock.

 

[MyBelle]

It makes more sense to believe she was drunk and put the baby down at 6:40and never checked on her again than to believe she put her down at 6:40 and never checked on her again and wasn't drunk! Lisa was sick. She would have needed checked on, changed, maybe a bottle.

So she was either drunk and negligent or just negligent.

The drunk aspect raises it to a class A felony imo. There is a receipt for the wine, her admission she was drunk. A neighbor also participated. That's quite a hurdle for a defense attorney to overcome.

JMO

 

[RT51]

First of all, there is a difference between blacked out and passed out. I can't see where under 10 glasses of wine causes a black out. A black out is when you are still awake but don't remember what you did. Passed out is sound asleep.

So by her saying she blacked out, who knows what she did.

JMO

 

[BaileyandBella]

Could DB be arrested solely on child neglect (drinking and blacking out)?