LE serves search warrant on family home #4

[n4k]

In the interview where DB admitted to being drunk I notice she reached for his hand and he didn't budge to take her hand. The camera stayed there for a while and you could see she laid her hand on top of his but he didn't budge.

I don't believe he was involved and I do believe he is heartbroken beyond belief. Totally in shock.

Yes, I noticed that in a couple of the interviews. Only once did I see HIS hand on HER leg and in that case, her hand was on top so she may have moved it there. In all the others, it appeared that she was the only one doing the consoling/needing comfort.

 

[Lera213]

It makes more sense to believe she was drunk and put the baby down at 6:40and never checked on her again than to believe she put her down at 6:40 and never checked on her again and wasn't drunk! Lisa was sick. She would have needed checked on, changed, maybe a bottle.

So she was either drunk and negligent or just negligent.

Thank you for answering and I'm not picking on you really I am not. Just trying to understand...Ok so how do you trust what anything she has said is true? We have no other confirmation other then what she has said.

This is why I chose not to believe anything she says.

We don't know her true timeline only what she has stated and LE has always said during their pressers is "The Parents state blah blah blah" see what I mean?

 

[KCMommie]

No, he is not, but he sure as heck is helping them down the road with the whole reasonable doubt.

I FEAR this. I truly see a mentally ill, didn't have the correct upbringing defense coming into play here.

I don't see how. No one saw this in the Anthony case either. This child is GONE. GONE! The last person to see her is the very person who was supposed to protect and care for this child; instead she neglected her. No doubt charges are coming...I am glad they got a warrant. If a jury hears this I'll be ticked if our LE does not have this case LOCKED DOWN before they move I just hope and pray every night we find Lisa alive. Maybe someone who realized that Lisa wasn't getting the care she needed and will drop her off at a church somewhere. Statistically, I know the chances are slim.

I have no idea what has been done with this child and I am so angry I could spit. Ive been warned by local law enforcement that I need to keep a watchful eye. I haven't lived in this part of the metro for very long, but my child is afraid someone is going to "come steal him" already, and if you look at the Offender registry for the KC Metro area it looks as if someone has been playing in the dippin' dots. Since this started, I've found myself checking to see if our doors/windows are locked, considering better locks.

How DARE someone emotionally blackmail us to further a cover up? Molest the very thing we all need to be watchful of? Desensitize us by crying wolf. I live a couple of miles away. I pray to God this woman is not manipulating.. I have for two weeks. It's not looking good.If they did this, I cannot imagine how the public will react, especially in the wake of the Anthony trial.

 

[AngelWings444]

Angel, I was like you about the two receipt thing. I first read it here Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Interviews 10/17/2011 All interviews #2 a few nights ago. I'm sure further back in the thread it is mentioned with links? I'm not sure of the significance of two receipts, though.

Thank you. I am not trying to dispute the receipt, the garage sale or anything else. The only reason I questioned 2 receipts is because I had not heard it before, and because someone stated the reason she paid separate is because DB is on welfare or foodstamps. We have no clue what is true or not. Even with DB's own statements, family statements, neighbors/friends, the MEDIA, we have no clue if they are the truth or lies. DB stated she failed a poly, who knows if that is true. Who know what time any of this happened, who, what, when, why? None of us know. The one thing we all know FOR SURE, is Baby Lisa is missing/gone. It's very sad and she needs to be found, the sooner, the better. For now, I am trusting LE and praying they know the answers or have been pointed in the right direction.

 

[n4k]

First of all, there is a difference between blacked out and passed out. I can't see where under 10 glasses of wine causes a black out. A black out is when you are still awake but don't remember what you did. Passed out is sound asleep.

So by her saying she blacked out, who knows what she did.

JMO

I'm a big woman and I can pass out with half a glass of wine. As for blacked out versus passed out. Until this case, I never realized the difference and in my younger days, I did a lot of drinking and passing out. I'm sure I referred to it as "blacking out" because..well, that's what I did I'm not sure we can know exactly what DB intended to describe when she said she "blacked out." She may have just meant she fell asleep.

 

[BaileyandBella]

Didn't a report come out that said a child this age (toddler, 11 months) has only been kidnapped ONCE ever!!!???

...and that baby kidnappings are always newborns?

 

[Lera213]

Thank you. I am not trying to dispute the receipt, the garage sale or anything else. The only reason I questioned 2 receipts is because I had not heard it before, and because someone stated the reason she paid separate is because DB is on welfare or foodstamps. We have no clue what is true or not. Even with DB's own statements, family statements, neighbors/friends, the MEDIA, we have no clue if they are the truth or lies. DB stated she failed a poly, who knows if that is true. Who know what time any of this happened, who, what, when, why? None of us know. The one thing we all know FOR SURE, is Baby Lisa is missing/gone. It's very sad and she needs to be found, the sooner, the better. For now, I am trusting LE and praying they know the answers or have been pointed in the right direction.

Angle tonight on Bill O'Reilly on foxnews Megan Kelly was on. She summed up the case and hit everything. The one thing I first question she might have got wrong I soon remembered that on things like this MK is very careful in getting her facts straight and she would have spoken to someone in LE to verify a few things. She stated that the Mom said she failed and LE confirmed that she did. So that fact I think we can say is true.

 

[HatesSociopaths]

The revelation that JI decided THAT DAY to work an extra electrical job at Starbucks is very interesting to me.

The timeline appears to have been changed because the neighbor indicated that she never saw the baby, IMO.

What happened during the day? Why did Jeremy suddenly and immediately want to work a graveyard type shift that he had never worked before?

It's also interesting that the store clerk said that the baby is often brought to the store. Not this time.

It would also be worth looking into if this run to the store to get BULK baby food was even needed. Did her cupboard already have baby food in it?

And once her cell phones are found, does her original cell phone actually have a speaker/microphone issue, or is it perfectly fine?

Who was on the other end of the alleged 2:38 phone call? Was it actually Jeremy and Debbie communicating about the cover-up?

Did Debbie kill Lisa during the day?

Maybe Jeremy came home at 3:20 to a grieving (faked) Debbie, saying that Lisa had died. She may have purposely poisoned Lisa with a cough syrup overdose but staged it as an accident to Jeremy. By the time he got home, Lisa was clearly dead. He then was pleaded with by Debbie that the best thing to do was to stage a kidnapping so that they wouldn't lose the boys. She told him that he should go work another job that night so that he would not be implicated (yeah right, that's why she let him discover she was missing - she knew reasonable doubt would be created about who did what).

MOO.

 

[RT51]

I'm a big woman and I can pass out with half a glass of wine. As for blacked out versus passed out. Until this case, I never realized the difference and in my younger days, I did a lot of drinking and passing out. I'm sure I referred to it as "blacking out" because..well, that's what I did I'm not sure we can know exactly what DB intended to describe when she said she "blacked out." She may have just meant she fell asleep.

I guess I just have read too many excuses in crimes where the person said they blacked out and didn't realize what they did. I can drink wine very well. I've even been know to fall down, but I have never forgotten what I did or where I was. Maybe a little embarassed when I woke up in the morning, but never forgot things.

 

[Lera213]

LDT that is...sorry...other then that I don't believe a word they say however when LE speaks they chose their words wisely after all they know it could possible come back in court. If they come out right and make a fact known, I'll believe it. The Mom/Dad no freaking way unless LE confirms it. MOO

 

[JeannieC]

I FEAR this. I truly see a mentally ill, didn't have the correct upbringing defense coming into play here.

I don't see how. No one saw this in the Anthony case either. This child is GONE. GONE! The last person to see her is the very person who was supposed to protect and care for this child; instead she neglected her. No doubt charges are coming...I am glad they got a warrant. If a jury hears this I'll be ticked if our LE does not have this case LOCKED DOWN before they move I just hope and pray every night we find Lisa alive. Maybe someone who realized that Lisa wasn't getting the care she needed and will drop her off at a church somewhere. Statistically, I know the chances are slim.

I have no idea what has been done with this child and I am so angry I could spit. Ive been warned by local law enforcement that I need to keep a watchful eye. I haven't lived in this part of the metro for very long, but my child is afraid someone is going to "come steal him" already, and if you look at the Offender registry for the KC Metro area it looks as if someone has been playing in the dippin' dots. Since this started, I've found myself checking to see if our doors/windows are locked, considering better locks.

How DARE someone emotionally blackmail us to further a cover up? Molest the very thing we all need to be watchful of? Desensitize us by crying wolf. I live a couple of miles away. I pray to God this woman is not manipulating.. I have for two weeks. It's not looking good.If they did this, I cannot imagine how the public will react, especially in the wake of the Anthony trial.

I believe the Anthony trial has a large bearing on LE appearing to go overboard, as some have stated, in this case. No holes in their case, nothing left unturned. I believe they are being very thorough and making every effort to not only find Lisa but to build an airtight case against the perp. jmo

 

[AngelWings444]

Angle tonight on Bill O'Reilly on foxnews Megan Kelly was on. She summed up the case and hit everything. The one thing I first question she might have got wrong I soon remembered that on things like this MK is very careful in getting her facts straight and she would have spoken to someone in LE to verify a few things. She stated that the Mom said she failed and LE confirmed that she did. So that fact I think we can say is true.

Mom said in an interview that police told her that she failed the polygraph. LE never confirmed she failed, only confirmed DB said she failed. That is my recollection. I could be wrong.

 

[RT51]

The revelation that JI decided THAT DAY to work an extra electrical job at Starbucks is very interesting to me.

The timeline appears to have been changed because the neighbor indicated that she never saw the baby, IMO.

What happened during the day? Why did Jeremy suddenly and immediately want to work a graveyard type shift that he had never worked before?

Who was on the other end of the alleged 2:38 phone call? Was it actually Jeremy and Debbie communicating about the cover-up?

Did Debbie kill Lisa during the day?

Maybe Jeremy came home at 3:20 to a grieving (faked) Debbie, saying that Lisa had died. She may have purposely poisoned Lisa with a cough syrup overdose but staged it as an accident to Jeremy. By the time he got home, Lisa was clearly dead. He then was pleaded with by Debbie that the best thing to do was to stage a kidnapping so that they wouldn't lose the boys. She told him that he should go work another job that night so that he would not be implicated (yeah right, that's why she let him discover she was missing - she knew reasonable doubt would be created about who did what).

MOO.

Did JI even see her awake before he went to the other job? Maybe he thought she was asleep as that is what DB told him before she went to the store.

 

[Lera213]

To me there is only a few facts that we can say is true they are:

Lisa is gone
Wine was bought by DB
DB failed the LDT

That is it

 

[LancelotLink]

I FEAR this. I truly see a mentally ill, didn't have the correct upbringing defense coming into play here.

I don't see how. No one saw this in the Anthony case either. This child is GONE. GONE! The last person to see her is the very person who was supposed to protect and care for this child; instead she neglected her. No doubt charges are coming...I am glad they got a warrant. If a jury hears this I'll be ticked if our LE does not have this case LOCKED DOWN before they move I just hope and pray every night we find Lisa alive. Maybe someone who realized that Lisa wasn't getting the care she needed and will drop her off at a church somewhere. Statistically, I know the chances are slim.

I have no idea what has been done with this child and I am so angry I could spit. Ive been warned by local law enforcement that I need to keep a watchful eye. I haven't lived in this part of the metro for very long, but my child is afraid someone is going to "come steal him" already, and if you look at the Offender registry for the KC Metro area it looks as if someone has been playing in the dippin' dots. Since this started, I've found myself checking to see if our doors/windows are locked, considering better locks.

How DARE someone emotionally blackmail us to further a cover up? Molest the very thing we all need to be watchful of? Desensitize us by crying wolf. I live a couple of miles away. I pray to God this woman is not manipulating.. I have for two weeks. It's not looking good.If they did this, I cannot imagine how the public will react, especially in the wake of the Anthony trial.

They have already started with the defense. On Dr. Drew, he said he had spoken with a member of the family who said there was a history of abuse, achoholism, etc/ Now, keep in mind, he never said DB in particular, but the family has a history.

I feel the FBI knows what happened and the 17 hours yesterday was spent wisely. The fact that this story and the one fron Ft. Bragg are so simliar does not go unnoticed by me, so I can assure the FBI is on this.

The truth will come out soon.

 

[Lera213]

Mom said in an interview that police told her that she failed the polygraph. LE never confirmed she failed, only confirmed DB said she failed. That is my recollection. I could be wrong.

right Megan Kelly said tonight that LE confirmed it. She would not state that unless she herself got that confirmation.

 

[BaileyandBella]

Supposedly JI has an alibi that night (video). Has LE confirmed a with a boss that he was really working??

I am wondering if that was all staged now too...sigh.

 

[KCMommie]

Thank you for answering and I'm not picking on you really I am not. Just trying to understand...Ok so how do you trust what anything she has said is true? We have no other confirmation other then what she has said.

This is why I chose not to believe anything she says.

We don't know her true timeline only what she has stated and LE has always said during their pressers is "The Parents state blah blah blah" see what I mean?

Actually, you have brought up a really good point! I'm thinking along those lines too. I have wondered if she is lying about drinking to build a defense.

I have no idea what happened! I put her to bed and checked on her and 'pouf' she was gone!

To

Yes, I know my story wasn't really believable but I was just trying to cover up that I was really drunk and I could be charged with neglect and endangerment...but... She's really missing -- go find her. I'll sit here and wait. REALLY?

What's next?

They never struck me as being that bright... but I guess that's the point. When you're normal, you can't figure out crazy.

 

[Lera213]

Supposedly JI has an alibi that night (video). Has LE confirmed a with a boss that he was really working??

I am wondering if that was all staged now too...sigh.

nobody knows I heard also that there was video of him at work. We haven't seen it, LE hasn't stated such, I haven't heard that LE made the statement this to be or even where this information came from. It was stated by the media.

They didn't say LE said they have video.

 

[Lera213]

Actually, you have brought up a really good point! I'm thinking along those lines too. I have wondered if she is lying about drinking to build a defense.

I have no idea what happened! I put her to bed and checked on her and 'pouf' she was gone!

To

Yes, I know my story wasn't really believable but I was just trying to cover up that I was really drunk and I could be charged with neglect and endangerment...but... She's really missing -- go find her. I'll sit here and wait. REALLY?

What's next?

They never struck me as being that bright... but I guess that's the point. When you're normal, you can't figure out crazy.

Thank you! I'm going to try and be careful when I make a comment about what she said...I'll say allegedly because I don't believe one word so far except the LDT statement.