LE serves search warrant on family home #4

[Lera213]

I still think both of them is Guilty as sin! LOL

 

[LancelotLink]

Could DB be arrested solely on child neglect (drinking and blacking out)?

Pfft. She wishes...

 

[partyuv5]

I could not agree with you more!

While I get there are cases that have been misconstrued. Statistically, it almost as rare as the boogieman walking in our houses and taking our children with no evidence or lead! Obviously, with the media attention here... that did seem to be a problem. So WHY would a MOTHER, A GOOD MOTHER, not want the HIGHLY TRAINED, but very competent PROFESSIONALS she NEEDS TO RELY ON that have THE BEST chance at locating HER MISSING CHILD, HER DAUGHTER to seek out, and follow up in the case?

I always find it interesting when someone has a fear of being arrested if they haven't done anything wrong to be arrested for...

Neglect and Child Endangerment is certainly better than a murder conviction. Reasonable doubt worked in the Anthony case...Even worse... never seeing your child again. IMVHO At what point does DB not understand the public can be much more forgiving of a horrible consequence of poor decision making skill in parenting, rather than someone who acts in manners that inhibit/interfere in the ability to help LE locate her daughter alive?

Unless I am mistaken, DB never even really talked to local media... she went straight to the top?

David Westerfield did it. Absolutely no evidence in the house that he took Danielle VanDam.

I'm not saying I think DB has no knowledge of what happened to LI. I'm just saying it is possible to not leave a shred of evidence.

 

[Lera213]

DB's choice of words has been interesting like the "Adult time" to even have those words come of your tongue is just out there for me. I raised 4 boys, two were 10 months apart and I have never thought that, or said things like that. I have said to my husband, I need a few hours break but never like she has.

Are other's out there that used that term?

 

[partyuv5]

If your child has legitimately been taken from you, YOU NEVER TELL POLICE YOU NEED A BREAK FROM THEIR QUESTIONS

Maybe if you needed to go to the potty :crazy:

 

[AngelWings444]

nobody knows I heard also that there was video of him at work. We haven't seen it, LE hasn't stated such, I haven't heard that LE made the statement this to be or even where this information came from. It was stated by the media.

They didn't say LE said they have video.

MK is the media. DB is the person who said she failed the LDT. While I believe she did fail, nothing is 100% in this case. Until LE arrests someone, speaks the facts of the case, I don't trust anyone, except LE. LE has not stated this as fact. I applaud LE for keeping things close to the vest. I hope and pray it helps them bring Lisa home. Again, I believe she did fail but I have been wrong. :crazy:

 

[Lera213]

Maybe if you needed to go to the potty :crazy:

:floorlaugh:

 

[Lera213]

I would like when a case goes to trial that every state has sunshine laws to go into effect once the trial date is set. Then we can get lots of doc dumps.

 

[KCMommie]

They have already started with the defense. On Dr. Drew, he said he had spoken with a member of the family who said there was a history of abuse, achoholism, etc/ Now, keep in mind, he never said DB in particular, but the family has a history.

I feel the FBI knows what happened and the 17 hours yesterday was spent wisely. The fact that this story and the one fron Ft. Bragg are so simliar does not go unnoticed by me, so I can assure the FBI is on this.

The truth will come out soon.

Oh the Ft. Bragg case stunned me. I don't believe in coincidences.

There has been a direct link to dysfunction in DB's immediate family.

Can ANYONE tell me WHY only her "cousin" is showing up in press conferences with them? Out of the entire family, why is HE the only one standing with them? What does he have to do with this? This is bugging me. Is there something I have missed?

 

[Whisperer]

I think some states only make you report the income of the mother or "family unit" so if the parents are not married then if the father works they may not take his income into account, (even though they should if he is contributing financially to the child!) so legally the mother is a "single parent" without a marriage license.

Have no clue about MO though.

JMO

She is not a single mother, she is married to an Enlisted Army Serviceman who is/was stationed overseas. He has been providing for at least DB and his boy if not Lisa. Lisa is legally his. Unless there was a stipulation (which I doubt) the Army is taking care of most of the family, if not all of them. I don't know how she would be able to get any kind of public assistance. When it comes to the Government and their hand-outs, nothing should surprise me...but in this case, I will be shocked if she manages to pull off more money from the Govt.

 

[n4k]

DB's choice of words has been interesting like the "Adult time" to even have those words come of your tongue is just out there for me. I raised 4 boys, two were 10 months apart and I have never thought that, or said things like that. I have said to my husband, I need a few hours break but never like she has.

Are other's out there that used that term?

I'm with you, Lera. I would feel nothing short of guilt if I said that, BUT yes, it is a common line with today's parents. I have nieces close to DB's age who are awesome parents, but I've heard both of them refer to, "adult time" as if it something earned weekly or after the kids are asleep. I think some of it comes from SAHM's who do not get a break from kids or "adult" conversation.

 

[lauriej]

DB admitted to the wine and also changed her timeline to 6:40 pm and said she never again checked on Lisa. That's not something she told LE in the beginning.

JMO

..she changed it up again in the "people mag" article---saying that she did check on her once.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20537543,00.html

"She put Lisa down in her room around 6:40 p.m., she says. Only once more soon afterward did she check on Lisa, finding her standing in her crib before tucking her back in."

 

[LancelotLink]

Oh the Ft. Bragg case stunned me. I don't believe in coincidences.

There has been a direct link to dysfunction in DB's immediate family.

Can ANYONE tell me WHY only her "cousin" is showing up in press conferences with them? Out of the entire family, why is HE the only one standing with them? What does he have to do with this? This is bugging me. Is there something I have missed?

Who knows? He's a Marine? He just got back from Iraq? We must believe him? Manipulation?

 

[KCMommie]

David Westerfield did it. Absolutely no evidence in the house that he took Danielle VanDam.

I'm not saying I think DB has no knowledge of what happened to LI. I'm just saying it is possible to not leave a shred of evidence.

Absolutely. I'm not psychic nor am I an all knowing God. I am truly humble to the fact that the boogie-man DOES and CAN happen. Believe it or not, I still have left myself open to the idea that someone took this child! It would be foolish not to keep that possibility open until hard evidence is in. Right now, I simply do not believe the parents are forthcoming and I have to ask why. All sorts of scenarios can fit that.

Problem is, statistics, evidence, and actions from these parents don't match the story their feeding us. Or should I say, stories.

 

[JeannieC]

She is not a single mother, she is married to an Enlisted Army Serviceman who is/was stationed overseas. He has been providing for at least DB and his boy if not Lisa. Lisa is legally his. Unless there was a stipulation (which I doubt) the Army is taking care of most of the family, if not all of them. I don't know how she would be able to get any kind of public assistance. When it comes to the Government and their hand-outs, nothing should surprise me...but in this case, I will be shocked if she manages to pull off more money from the Govt.

I would think with DB's husband being in the Army she would have PX priviledges. I wonder if there is a PX near them. I'm sure she has a military ID. That would save money on groceries, diapers, and a lot of other things. You can buy just about anything at the PX.

 

[Lera213]

She is not a single mother, she is married to an Enlisted Army Serviceman who is/was stationed overseas. He has been providing for at least DB and his boy if not Lisa. Lisa is legally his. Unless there was a stipulation (which I doubt) the Army is taking care of most of the family, if not all of them. I don't know how she would be able to get any kind of public assistance. When it comes to the Government and their hand-outs, nothing should surprise me...but in this case, I will be shocked if she manages to pull off more money from the Govt.

My first husband of 5 years was Military, I was pregnant with my second child with him. He left me in the on base housing, no phone, no car, no money and no food. When I called the commander know what he said? He said, you are lucky to be in the house. Unless there is a court order telling him he has to pay child support he might not however if she continually contacted his first sgt and complained they would call that GI in and read him the right act and he would be paying that child support.

When I started the divorce proceedings from my first hub, he was ordered to pay only $200.00 a month of which I never got. I only lived with him for 2 years when we separated. I still had my ID card, but no longer living on base. He however was collecting the family BAQ (basic allowance for quarters/housing) which he wasn't suppose to. His commander never forced him to pay that child support even after I hounded his first shirt. Of course this was way back when in early 80's.

Hopefully this helps. Not every case is the same but it does happen.

Most that go through a separation might have a non legal agreement like....I'll pay you this much a month, but we cannot get divorced because I need that married status pay in order to afford to pay and give you and the kids more. The wife usually will agree...that is done a lot! No way would anyone question or even DFAS (finance office) unless someone ratted him out, or he did something to bring it to their attention.

Again, Not every case is the same!

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

First of all, there is a difference between blacked out and passed out. I can't see where under 10 glasses of wine causes a black out. A black out is when you are still awake but don't remember what you did. Passed out is sound asleep.

So by her saying she blacked out, who knows what she did.

JMO

Personally speaking, I've used the terms blacked out and passed out interchangably in my own life. I had a long day at wortk and came home and blacked out" I don't drink, but even when I did many years ago, i would say either blacked out or passed out as the same thing.

 

[lauriej]

I would like when a case goes to trial that every state has sunshine laws to go into effect once the trial date is set. Then we can get lots of doc dumps.

..every state does have " (government in the) sunshine law" ( transparency in government ) , they just vary state to state----florida being the most liberal.

..i wished we would at least get the 911 call in this case-----but apparently missouri law prevents us from even hearing that.

 

[marge_rita]

Search warrant....and I heard one of the reporters today from early on state something about them having a yard sale. Search warrant and I tried to see if the baby's room had carpet for Whisperer, but can only assume it did.

In the picture of the baby's room that's here on several threads, you can clearly see either carpet or a large rug in the nursery under the crib.

 

[partyuv5]

This is why LE wanted all the video's from media because they wanted to see them leaving the house with possession they took out of the house. They know they took the phones with them when they left the house. With DB statement of not going back to the house, LE knew those phones were not there anymore. They had to check just in case instead of them taking them, they hid them better. Now they have to review all raw video and my bet is all video of them leaving the house with items in hand. Then a search warrant will be performed at all places they stayed at, and they will know what to look for. My guess is a toy or stuffed animal they put those phones in when the left the house.

Why would DB/JI leave the phones hidden in the house? If in fact he/she (they) discarded Baby Lisa, wouldn't they get rid of the phones too? On a local news cast it was reported that she does follow cases of the missing and always assumed the family was guilty but has changed her mind since it has happened to her. (i can search for link but it will take me forever, someone back me here)

My thought on requesting video is to see inconsistancies, body language, wording...etc.