LeAnna (Mom) #1

[ArianeEmory]

I'm not a parent, but I can't handle, for example, open-casket funerals. Are we absolutely sure that not wanting to see her dead child, in that state, means she's guilty? I think there's a tendency (among both parents and non parents) to project how we believe we ourselves would react, even if we've never actually been faced with that situation. When I had to have my cat euthanized a few years ago, I couldn't even go to the vet with her, my husband had to do it. It's almost enough to make me start crying right now, and she was a cat. I don't think I would be emotionally equipped to see a dead loved one after something horrible had happened to them. Thankfully I've never been put to that test.

(This is something that's been bugging me about this case since the beginning, I don't understand why it proves anything about her. It doesn't reflect my feelings about her guilt or innocence, which are neutral because there isn't much info to go on.)

 

[gngr~snap]

Didn't they ask her at the Treehouse, if she wanted to see Cooper?

Maybe they did, were they going to take her to see Cooper before going to the station to be questioned?
I remember hearing she did not ask to see Cooper she only wanted to see RH.
We know RH (lied) and told her what Cooper looked like.
I'm sure it's on tape.

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[JerseyGirl]

LH declines to see Cooper, asks to see RH. Alone together in an interview room, they are surreptitiously observed by LE. After RH goes through his story with LH, she asks him, “Did you tell them too much?”

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?249213-Timeline-Background-June-18th-and-follow-up

bbm

 

[popsicle]

Maybe they did, were they going to take her to see Cooper before going to the station to be questioned?
I remember hearing she did not ask to see Cooper she only wanted to see RH.
We know RH (lied) and told her what Cooper looked like.
I'm sure it's on tape.

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UNIDENTIFIED PROSECUTOR: Eventually, did she speak with law enforcement back at the Tree House, the place where the defendant worked?

STODDARD: She did.

UNIDENTIFIED PROSECUTOR: OK. When police spoke with her there, did they say anything about the reaction at the scene?

STODDARD: Her reaction at the scene, she didn't show any emotion when they asked her or when they notified her of Cooper's death. She did make a statement that, you know, this was her worst nightmare.

UNIDENTIFIED PROSECUTOR: And after being told that he was deceased, did she ask to see her son or anything like that?

STODDARD: No.

UNIDENTIFIED PROSECUTOR: Who does she ask to see?

STODDARD: She asked to see her husband.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1407/03/wolf.02.html

 

[gngr~snap]

UNIDENTIFIED PROSECUTOR: Eventually, did she speak with law enforcement back at the Tree House, the place where the defendant worked?

STODDARD: She did.

UNIDENTIFIED PROSECUTOR: OK. When police spoke with her there, did they say anything about the reaction at the scene?

STODDARD: Her reaction at the scene, she didn't show any emotion when they asked her or when they notified her of Cooper's death. She did make a statement that, you know, this was her worst nightmare.

UNIDENTIFIED PROSECUTOR: And after being told that he was deceased, did she ask to see her son or anything like that?

STODDARD: No.

UNIDENTIFIED PROSECUTOR: Who does she ask to see?

STODDARD: She asked to see her husband.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1407/03/wolf.02.html

This doesn't say she said she didn't want to see Cooper , but I can understand that it is inferred.

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[popsicle]

I'm not a parent, but I can't handle, for example, open-casket funerals. Are we absolutely sure that not wanting to see her dead child, in that state, means she's guilty? I think there's a tendency (among both parents and non parents) to project how we believe we ourselves would react, even if we've never actually been faced with that situation. When I had to have my cat euthanized a few years ago, I couldn't even go to the vet with her, my husband had to do it. It's almost enough to make me start crying right now, and she was a cat. I don't think I would be emotionally equipped to see a dead loved one after something horrible had happened to them. Thankfully I've never been put to that test.

(This is something that's been bugging me about this case since the beginning, I don't understand why it proves anything about her. It doesn't reflect my feelings about her guilt or innocence, which are neutral because there isn't much info to go on.)

It doesn't help me make a decision one way or the other really. Just putting the pieces in the right order. I am not sure where I stand in regards to LH yet.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I'm not a parent, but I can't handle, for example, open-casket funerals. Are we absolutely sure that not wanting to see her dead child, in that state, means she's guilty? I think there's a tendency (among both parents and non parents) to project how we believe we ourselves would react, even if we've never actually been faced with that situation. When I had to have my cat euthanized a few years ago, I couldn't even go to the vet with her, my husband had to do it. It's almost enough to make me start crying right now, and she was a cat. I don't think I would be emotionally equipped to see a dead loved one after something horrible had happened to them. Thankfully I've never been put to that test.

(This is something that's been bugging me about this case since the beginning, I don't understand why it proves anything about her. It doesn't reflect my feelings about her guilt or innocence, which are neutral because there isn't much info to go on.)

IMO a parent has a natural normal immediate denial reaction, they need to see because surely there's been some sort of mistake. They want to be with their baby.....more often than not they have to be dissuaded from viewing the body if it's particularly gruesome.
The need to know, for sure, IMO is overwhelming. The desire to comfort and hold, even in death is very very strong.

IMO


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[momrids6]

IMO a parent has a natural normal immediate denial reaction, they need to see because surely there's been some sort of mistake. They want to be with their baby.....more often than not they have to be dissuaded from viewing the body if it's particularly gruesome.
The need to know, for sure, IMO is overwhelming. The desire to comfort and hold, even in death is very very strong.

IMO


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:loveyou: Exactly- and that is any "type" of loving parent; biological, adoptive, foster or step. It took more than one LE & the LE shrink many hours to keep me from seeing my foster daughter- who was horribly mangled.

 

[Linda7NJ]

:loveyou: Exactly- and that is any "type" of loving parent; biological, adoptive, foster or step. It took more than one LE & the LE shrink many hours to keep me from seeing my foster daughter- who was horribly mangled.

I am so so so sorry ((((((hugs)))))))


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[momrids6]

I am so so so sorry ((((((hugs)))))))


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I'm sorry eveyone... have alot on my mind & she is in my head tonight.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I'm sorry eveyone... have alot on my mind & she is in my head tonight.

Don't be sorry! Wish I could hug you in person, sounds like you could use one


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[CHERIE.T]

MOMRIDS6 where is your post? OMG love you, I am so sorry! (((Hugs)))

 

[Dr. Know?]

I think everyone needs to go to the basement. Everyone of you need hugs and heard out. xoxo

 

[MzOpinion8d]

I have a 4s (I know, LOSER), but my imessages stay the same tone of blue. Is the deeper tone a feature of the iphone 5?

It's a feature of iOS 7, I think, but maybe it's specific to iOS7 on the iPhone 5 & 5s.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

No, I get blue and green texts on my IPhone, depending on whether the person has their phone on or not. For example, yesterday I was texting my daughter pictures of lamps from the store I was in. She chose to not go in because her knee was hurting. She set her phone unknowingly to airplane mode, and the texts were green. As soon as I asked her about it, and she switched it off, the rest of the texts were blue.
We don't have IMessage on any of our IPhones.

iMessage is what's being used when your texts are blue. When they're green they're being sent as text messages, blue is being sent as iMessages. Sometimes an iMessage can't go thru (for example when phone is on airplane mode or in a bad coverage area) so the iPhone will send as a text instead. iMessage is automatic between Apple devices...it's not a separate app like Kik.

And how dare you leave your child in the car!!! (JOKE!!)

 

[katinva]

I agree! I've seen kik and its not that. It looks like my iphone when I text someone else through imessage. Like someone else said, if you text another type of phone it is green instead of blue.

 

[oh_gal]

I see an over-caring enabler. She didn't realize she'd be trying to raise Ross as well as Cooper. Intimacy issues increase when a spouse accepts a parenting role. At every turn, she believes deep down that since she loves him, if she just works a bit harder at it, she can get him (Ross ) raised.

Soak that for a while in a church that teaches submission to male headship.

Once she conceived, there was no walking away for LeAnna.

She's caught in a trap, INHO.

(above, bbm)
I've been mulling over your post, and I think perhaps it accounts for part of the story, anyway.

I attended a church just like that (the part I bolded)...Long story -- but we live in a very rural environment with not many church choices. Suffice to say, I know that mentality. I know people who live that life. I became somewhat good friends with the pastor's wife, visited their home, socialized to an extent -- he's a real jerk, but she just puts up with it. So....this could happen, except -- that whole "Did you say too much?" comment....no way would a wife, fully indoctrinated into the headship lifestyle, question the male leader of the house like that.

There are probably so many different layers here, it's going to take a long time to get to the truth.

 

[DeDee]

She went to the jail to be questioned. She asked to see her husband while she was at the jail.
Even if she had wanted to see Cooper she knew Cooper wasn't there at the jail.
He was 6 miles away at the mourge.

Does that make sense?
It might not.

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LH left LAA @ 5ish and drove to The TreeHouse where she encountered LE. She was informed that her son was deceased. Without displaying emotion, at some point, she responded, by saying "this is my worst nightmare". She did not ask about Cooper. Instead, LH asked LE's permission to see her husband. I assume she continued driving her personal vehicle to Persons where she asked JRH: "did you say too much". And, then, following their first jailhouse visit, I suppose she drove herself home. Maybe the girlfriend who accompanied her and her mother in court stayed the night with her so she would not be alone. Or maybe she checked into a hotel so she could avoid home. Maybe LH hasn't been back home since she left at 7:15 on the morning of June 18.

IIRC, it was at The TreeHouse that LH spoke with her mother when officers overheard her mother demand to know: Why aren't you crying? Why aren't you upset? LHs excuse to her mom was that she must be in shock.

Fact: The LAA employees reported to LH @ 4:51 that Cooper was never dropped off at dayschool. LH was adamant that Ross left Cooper in the car.

Fact: LH drove to The TreeHouse and displays no emotions when informed of the dismal news regarding Cooper.

Fact: LH showed so little emotion that it angered her mother as overheard by LEDs [law enforcement detectives].

Fact: LH divulged to LEDs that she researched how long it takes to die in a hot car. So why did LH ask Ross if he said too much?

UNIDENTIFIED PROSECUTOR: And after being told that he was deceased, did she ask to see her son or anything like that?
STODDARD: No.

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[osu]

I have a 4s (I know, LOSER), but my imessages stay the same tone of blue. Is the deeper tone a feature of the iphone 5?

I just got a new iPhone 5S on Monday. I just checked my iMessages that I've had with DH, and yes the bubbles go from light blue at the top to a darker blue tone of the most recent messages.

eta: Text messages bubbles on my phone that are not iMessages are bright green instead of blue. They do not change from light to darker tones like they do with the iMessage bubbles.

 

[Hippiemomof5]

I have a 4s (I know, LOSER), but my imessages stay the same tone of blue. Is the deeper tone a feature of the iphone 5?

I have a 4s, and I assure you that I am no loser eace: , and my text messages are green and iMessages are blue, fading to lighter blue at the top of the screen. Perhaps you haven't done an update?