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OK, so the post by
Cynic also says he thinks there was only the one blanket taken from the WC - the white one wrapped around JB. And
DeeDee confirms the evidence list included items from both the WC and living room.
So, do we now agree then, that there was only one blanket in the WC, even though Det. Everett testified there were two? Since the nightgown was also there, I could accept he mistook the nightgown for a blanket, especially because Everett does not say he saw the nightgown.
Back to
Cynic's post about JR's reference to the chair "still" blocking the door - indicating he might have made an earlier trip, as
Madelaine suspects, before LE arrived, because of the timeline which squashes his available time after LE arrived
From
http://www.acandyrose.com/crimescene-basement.htm, here's other info about when JR told anyone about his professed first trip to the basement:
"John Ramsey said that he had gone down to the basement at around 10:00am that morning. It was the first the police had heard about this. None of Det. Arndt's reports indicated that Ramsey had visited the basement before the body was found. Ramsey now told the detectives for the first time about his finding the broken window open, which had surprised him. Taken aback by the revelation of Ramsey's visit to the basement, Thomas asked him why he didn't report what he found to Det. Arndt since someone could have entered through the window. Ramsey said he didn't know why. He just didn't know, he said a second time. When asked if he also went into the boiler room and checked the wine cellar. He didn't go into that area of the basement, he said."
Reminder, JR stated in a couple of other sources that he DID tell Arndt about the window that morning.
The truth is always the truth and an account of it does not change. It's the lies in statements that eventually get misconstrued and mistaken. :moo:
Let's consider this: JR said chair "still there" when he went down after 10 am. French did not report broken window or chair blocking door. Fleet reports broken window, but makes no mention of chair in front of door or placing one in front of door as he left. But the crime scene photos of the basement do show a small chair being in the basement.
Without more complete police reports available for public review, we
have to assume that police missed seeing the broken window on their check before White checks,
or Fleet lied,
or John was in the basement between the time LE arrived and the time Fleet went through, taking enough time to break the window and clean up, which is highly unlikely given the circumstances.
From the Carnes deposition:
Mr. White testified that when he began his search, the lights were already on in the basement and the door in the hallway leading to the basement "wine cellar" room (footnote 10) was opened. (SMF 25; PSMP 25; White Dep. at 147, 151-52.) He further testified that a window in the basement playroom was broken. (SMF 26; PSMF 26; White Dep. at 28, 152 & 154)
Footnote 10: Although referred to as the "wine cellar", the room was actually used for storage and was "a dark, dirty area" with mold growing on the floor. (F. White Dep. at 228.)
Under the broken window, Mr. White states there was a suitcase, along with a broken shard of glass. (SMF 27; PSMF 27; White Dep. at 28-29, 156-59, & 265.) He does not, however, remember whether the window was opened or closed. (Footnote 11). (SMF 28; PSMF 28; White Dep. at 153.) Mr. White also opened the door to the wine cellar room, but he could not see anything inside the door to the wine cellar room, but he could not see anything inside because it was dark and he could not find the light switch. (SMF 29; PSMF 29; White Dep. at 159-61.)
This is from:
http://www.acandyrose.com/crimescene-basement.htm
"By now the police had asked Vale Christianian, the co-owner of Mike's Camera in Boulder, to measure the ambient and reflected light inside the wine cellar with its door open and the lights out, to verify what could and could not be seen during a quick glance inside the room. The test showed that there was not enough light to see anything in the dark unless the viewer had spent time getting accustomed to the darkness or his eyes adapted quickly to the surroundings."
"However, there was a possible explanation. JonBenet's body was inside the room to the left. It might not have been visible to White standing just at the threshold and blocking reflected light from entering the room. Yet if someone stood 5 to 10 inches inside the threshold, more reflected light would have entered. Then, looking directly to the left, the person might have seen the white blanket in the dark room. Maybe there was enough reflected light from just outside the door."
So,
Nom, JB's body, as
DeeDee has said several times also, probably was not dragged from a corner or moved once she was placed in the Wine Cellar wrapped in her white blanket. Everyone agree?
Why would there be a reason for Fleet to lie in his testimony about there being a broken window on his first trip to the basement? Would he have lied about not seeing JB?? I doubt it. I think due to the lighting situation, he did not see what he might have recognized as JB's body in the darkness. But did he mention seeing a bit of white blanket in the WC to John, prompting JR to then bring him in on helping to stage the window break and the suitcase thing? Was Fleet with John during the 10 am trip to the basement as well as the 1 pm trip to the basement? So they could pose a kidnapper/intruder theory, since JR convined Fleet he needed help because he knew either Burke or Patsy had killed JB??? Was that what the war was about?? Just because JR said he went to the basement
alone during the 10 am trip, should we be able to believe him? Is there any accounting of where Fleet was at that time?
If Fleet knows/helped JR stage an intruder break-in, he might be afraid to give any sort of revealing testimony unless there in an arrest and he can trade off for some sort of immunity. If he keeps trying to push for investigation of Ramsey guilt, but gives no details, he stays safe. The RST can't harm him in any way because it would send rockets off. As long as he is seeking for Ramsey investigation, White stands the best chance of leniency from LE if it is found he has been subject to threat from JR.
Also, the chair thing. More than once, JR states the thing about the chair in front of the door. No one else does, but there is a chair in the basement photos. JR had no witness to validate seeing him moving a chair, so I submit he lied about moving the chair, more than once, and said it to establish why his fingerprints could have been found on it, if they had been. Or in case there was any other question as to why that chair had been in that area causing JR worry that the chair would be addressed during the investigation of the crime.
Recap: Please feel free to comment in a post response!
1) Because of the differences in JR's statements regarding his trips to the basement, it is possible to believe he could have gone down there prior to the first check by LE. Agree?
1) JonBenet was wrapped in her white blanket and placed into the WC, where John later found her, evidently in the same position as when she was first placed in the WC, and no other blankets were evidenced as being from the WC. Agree?
2) Police did not report finding a broken window in train room, or chair in front of door. Agree?
3) White might not have seen broken window on his first trip to basement, instead was coerced into helping JR stage intruder break-in. Possibility White is hoping for Ramsey confession or prosecution due to fear of being victimized by RST. Agree?
4) JR lied about moving the chair from in front of the train room door to allude to intruder escape or in order to provide a cover for his own fingerprints being found on the chair. Agree?
