Let's leave George & Cindy to grieve in peace & focus on Casey

[Nosey Parker]

Semantics...BC asked for it on their behalf...as a matter of law, given he represents them, it's the same thing.

I know for a fact it is not routine to ask for immunity for grandparents of murdered children, nor would any lawyer bother doing it unless they knew their client was at risk of being charged with a criminal offence. Do you know of any other case where the grandparents, or any relative of any child crime victim has refused to co-operate unless granted immunity?

ITA. These things have to be fully explained and discussed with clients first. You don't, as a lawyer, just abitrarily go ahead and request something like immunity without your client's knowledge and consent. I think it was a very bad move on his part to go public with that, given the animosity already awarded the A's by the public. It simply applied more fuel to this fire, and now he is back-pedalling.

 

[SuziQ]

FWIW, BC might be correct that OCSO and the SA are not pursuing OJ and AA charges. However, no one has presented to BC and he has not answered the question whether the FBI is investigating and pursuing charges. CA is being investigated by the FBI and LA's interview with the FBI has not been released. I believe if charges are coming, they will be Federal.

 

[Kat]

I had thought that too SuziQ. If charges are brought they would be brought by the FBI. I was reminded of the Ignatow case from my hometown in which he was tried for perjury. I haven't heard that the FBI is investigating CA. We will have to wait and see if the FBI chooses to charge.

 

[magic-cat]

There is no obstruction of justice safe for the ideas, thoughts and stories. There just isn't. I don't even know what to think anymore, but really and seriously there needs to be a hammer of reality brought down on the forums. There is speculating and then there is what is going on here...

You have no way of knowing this. Nobody but them REALLY knows what they have done or have not done...What is going on here is just that, speculation. You speculate they have NOT done anything to obstruct, and others speculate that they have...that is how speculation works...

I had thought that too SuziQ. If charges are brought they would be brought by the FBI. I was reminded of the Ignatow case from my hometown in which he was tried for perjury. I haven't heard that the FBI is investigating CA. We will have to wait and see if the FBI chooses to charge.

The FBI is investigating due to the fact they were given the wrong hairbrush and this may have been intentional and then the "hacked" emails which were forwarded to the press from Cindy's account which were THEN forwarded to the FBI and they were actively investigating.

 

[curious_mom]

As a parent, you can absolutely KNOW your child has a problem, seek help, do everything humanly possible to help the child, but sometimes, even the best of parents end up with a problem child. It's not the parents fault, it's the child's. It doesn't mean you ever stop believing in your child though, and it doesn't mean you excuse what they have done, it's just that YOUR child, no matter what, is still your child, and you love them unconditionally. That is the job of a parent, from the day you find out that you're going to give birth (at least if you are a real parent).

I do not fault CA or GA for anything, as I firmly believe, everything they have done was out of love for Casey, and out of love for Caylee. IMO, they are victims of Casey, right along with everybody else. Maybe they did stay in denial for to long, but where is there any book or any person who can say how long any of us would be in denial had we been in their shoes. Nobody wants to believe they have raised a sociopath, and coming to terms with that would have to be the very last thing any of us would want to do.

It wasn't that long ago there was another high profile case in Fl, where anybody & everybody who spoke out negatively about the so called "victims" (aka family members), were quickly banned or given a time out. Threads were intentionally shut down because people spoke out defending their pov, but it didn't matter, these people were seen as victims, so any sleuthing that was done that showed where they could have been involved, was not allowed. I don't know what's happened between then & now, but imo, there are a great many people here who have spoken with such hate about GA & CA, and hate is such a strong word when you don't know them. They are just being parents, in a horrible situation, and trying to feel their way thru it. I know alot of the strong language against them comes from them supposedly asking for immunity, but BC said in his interview Friday night/Sat. morning, they never asked for it, as their attorney, he did it because it was his job. I don't think any of us would have any idea whatsoever what we would do if we had to walk a mile in their shoes, unless we had been exactly where they are right now

of course, all moo, take it for what it's worth, or not...

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

bumped as it's worth reading again!

Jadestar,

As a person with a heart I agree 100 percent. As the owner of Websleuths this is impossible I am afraid.

We walk a very fine line here. We want to help victims and their families yet, when family members are key players in the case, and therefore open to discussion, we have to walk the above mentioned fine line.

Because of George and Cindy's direct involvement, such as asking for immunity, we can't ask people not to discuss them.

However, we can ask that people post respectfully even if their opinion is not a favorable one.

I would like to say that all of the moderators have been working non-stop to delete posts that violate TOS and monitor this situation today. Making sure Websleuths lives up to its reputation as a good decent and reliable forum.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

FWIW, BC might be correct that OCSO and the SA are not pursuing OJ and AA charges. However, no one has presented to BC and he has not answered the question whether the FBI is investigating and pursuing charges. CA is being investigated by the FBI and LA's interview with the FBI has not been released. I believe if charges are coming, they will be Federal.

I completely agree. The other day I posted the samething. The OCSD, wants the Feds to press charges. Those charges will stick.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

Are you saying that people should be allowed to obstruct police in their investigation into the murder of a child, and you rationalise that because they are already dead it is okay to mislead police investigating that baby's murder? Why do you think adult relatives of murdered baby's should be allowed to mislead police? Don't you think children deserve special protection?

Great post. I always try to put myself in the position of KC's in-laws when I look @ this case. If Caylee was my granddaughter, how would I feel about the Anthony family??? How angry would I be if my granddaughter's other grandparents had done these things? From the start, my grandchild is missing and the priority is KC? I can't even imagine.

 

[marla]

FWIW, BC might be correct that OCSO and the SA are not pursuing OJ and AA charges. However, no one has presented to BC and he has not answered the question whether the FBI is investigating and pursuing charges. CA is being investigated by the FBI and LA's interview with the FBI has not been released. I believe if charges are coming, they will be Federal.

Keeping my fingers crossed!

 

[marla]

The Anthony's wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell, if there was a set of in-laws ..
The in-laws would have shut them up very quickly .. imo ..

 

[Nosey Parker]

The Anthony's wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell, if there was a set of in-laws ..
The in-laws would have shut them up very quickly .. imo ..

... and what's sad is, although there are no in-laws, there is another set of grandparents out there - somewhere.

 

[Bev]

There is no evidence that the As deliberately mislead LE in this investigation. Zero. Conway is doing the right thing to protect his clients. He has publicly stated that his clients have made inconsistent statements in the past, he has been open about that, he hasn't tried to hide it and he has done what any good lawyer would do - ask the prosecutor for immunity in making future statements, that might prove inconsistent.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

The Anthony's wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell, if there was a set of in-laws ..
The in-laws would have shut them up very quickly .. imo ..

Exactly. If there had been a "true" advocate for Caylee, this would have played out a lot differently. If I were the in-laws, no way in HECK, would I be giving this family a moments peace.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

... and what's sad is, although there are no in-laws, there is another set of grandparents out there - somewhere.

maybe.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

... and what's sad is, although there are no in-laws, there is another set of grandparents out there - somewhere.

Maybe not.

 

[Bev]

There is zero evidence that there are any federal charges being brought in this case. There is no reason to bring federal charges - there is an allegation made by a disgruntled former spokesperson.

 

[SuziQ]

There is no evidence that the As deliberately mislead LE in this investigation. Zero. Conway is doing the right thing to protect his clients. He has publicly stated that his clients have made inconsistent statements in the past, he has been open about that, he hasn't tried to hide it and he has done what any good lawyer would do - ask the prosecutor for immunity in making future statements, that might prove inconsistent.

We don't know if there is evidence of OJ or not. Of course a defense attorney worth a grain of salt will ask for immunity for his client if there is a chance his client could be charged with something. BC has admitted that much. Obviously the Feds feel there is a reason to investigate. Between that and BC's own statements, IMO, leads to a legitimate reason for discussion. Tricia has stated this herself. She just wants to see the discussion done in a respectful manner, which I agree with.

 

[RR0004]

There is no obstruction of justice safe for the ideas, thoughts and stories. There just isn't. I don't even know what to think anymore, but really and seriously there needs to be a hammer of reality brought down on the forums. There is speculating and then there is what is going on here...

Just curious then, why are the attorney's seeking immunity? I'm interested in knowing your take on it. I think there has been some positive sleuthing trying to come to some understanding. The attorney's came forward and revealed that information. IMO it makes sense to examine the reasons they would do that.

 

[RR0004]

We don't know if there is evidence of OJ or not. Of course a defense attorney worth a grain of salt will ask for immunity for his client if there is a chance his client could be charged with something. BC has admitted that much. Obviously the Feds feel there is a reason to investigate. Between that and BC's own statements, IMO, leads to a legitimate reason for discussion. Tricia has stated this herself. She just wants to see the discussion done in a respectful manner, which I agree with.

Sorry, Suzi...we must have been typing at the same time....you much faster than I!

 

[FightTheOstrich]

There is no evidence that the As deliberately mislead LE in this investigation. Zero. Conway is doing the right thing to protect his clients. He has publicly stated that his clients have made inconsistent statements in the past, he has been open about that, he hasn't tried to hide it and he has done what any good lawyer would do - ask the prosecutor for immunity in making future statements, that might prove inconsistent.

inconsistent statements, cough-cough. they should be interesting on the stand, i can see an entire day of "i do not recall".