Let's List Evidence That Ties Casey To The Crime Scene...

[LCoastMom]

ICA's defense strikes again, going after phone records of a man who LE cleared. in an attempt to create doubt over the actions of the (allegedly) guilty. I believe, a jury learning of such events won't look kindly at the defense. If I were seated on the jury in fact, I would think "if it happened to all these people - it could happen to anyone who by chance is familiar with someone who committed a crime." While I know a couple people who have gone to trial and/or jail for "stupid - human - tricks", I am not aware of any pretrial/trial activity, that attempted to discredit every person who ever had the misfortune to come in connect with the defendant.

Unfortunately for all concerned, Inmate Anthony, was quite the social butterfly - at this point it seems her defense has half the residents in the greater Orlando area, under their microscope and they will continue until they find what/who they are looking for. This will not only further delay the trial, but will also come at a huge expense to the taxpayers in FL; unless His Honor Judge Perry continues to shut them down. Thankfully, so far he has been very reasonable and has made intelligent, law based determinations - how long his patience can hold out, remains to be seen - in addition to the legalities concerning Inmate Anthony's rights, I hope he is also keeping notes on the disfunction in her council - not in an attempt to call a mistrial - as His Honor Judge Stan Strickland made sure Anthony was aware and satisfied with her representation. Rather the attempts of her attorney to be deceptive - something that shows shaky morals, by someone sworn to uphold the law and all our legal system stands for.

 

[Sun]

Shucks... wasn't Baez "claiming" that Caylee was alive, until skeletal remains were discovered on Dec11? And, then Baez didn't even wait for the remains to be identified, before he was making demands to get "his people" access to the site.

 

[LCoastMom]

I'm very curious also. I just can't figure out how and when Caylee was place in the woods. I think about it a lot! This is why I think KC had help. I wish I knew what the SA knows Only 9 more months and then we'll all know everything!

The plant growth may turn out to be very important in this case - I don't think it will too difficult for a jury to understand that the plants/roots that grew around Caylee's tiny bones grow at Xmm/week or Xmm/mo, as long as the SA gets a scientist who can speak in plain English, this would work for me.

IIRC The Body Farm said the plant growth dated the resting place at mid June - at a time ICA was very free to carry on her life -

Have there been any reports about the pavers being found, that PI DC was looking for in Nov? If they were there and collected by LE the defense will be struck again with a huge blow - IMO there would only be one person who had that information to give.

 

[logicalgirl]

If the State can prove that Caylee's body was in the trunk of Casey's car, then do they really have to have any proof as to "who" did dump Caylee's body at the Suburban site?

Exactly plus reasonable doubt. They aren't saying the Suburban location was the location of the murder so "who" put Caylee in the woods does not make ICA less guilty. The defense is chasing red herrings up the creek.

 

[Steely Dan]

Please explain. How do you know it wasn't applied later?

I have no reasonable explanation as to why it would be placed there after her murder. If I'm a juror I expect to hear a reasonable explanation for the duct tape by the defense and I can't think of one and haven't heard of one yet.

The only reasons that make sense to me are to cut off her breathing and/or to keep her from screaming. JMO

 

[grammieto5]

I've just viewed some of the photos taken from the crime scene. There were ALOT of bottles and cans there, maybe, just maybe there will DNA from KC on them. Could that be proof enough that she was there???

 

[Dells]

Exactly plus reasonable doubt. They aren't saying the Suburban location was the location of the murder so "who" put Caylee in the woods does not make ICA less guilty. The defense is chasing red herrings up the creek.

Bolding by me....

Of course they are. If I was on the jury, I would be wondering why the defense team is spending so much time trying to prove that Casey did not place Caylee's remains where they were ultimately found. I would be wondering why (if their client was so innocent) they just don't say how Caylee got out of Casey's possession and/or who took Caylee from Casey. We are talking about a 2 year old child who would be totally dependent on their parent/caregiver, not an older child or teenager who wouldn't be in their parent's/caregiver's immediate supervision 24/7. Yep, you are right. The defense team is chasing red herrings because they've got nothing else.

 

[Dells]

I have no reasonable explanation as to why it would be placed there after her murder. If I'm a juror I expect to hear a reasonable explanation for the duct tape by the defense and I can't think of one and haven't heard of one yet.

The only reasons that make sense to me are to cut off her breathing and/or to keep her from screaming. JMO

I so agree w/you! I also don't buy the explanation that the duct tape was placed there to possibly stop the purge of fluids after Caylee's body began decomposing. By the time that would be happening, the duct tape wouldn't have adhered to Caylee's skull well enough to remain in place even after she was completely skeletonized.

Poor Caylee.

 

[Patriciao]

to be honest though, when I re-listen to Casey's interviews with LE now, she sounds like a very confused/delusional person. I can't dismiss the possibility that she suffers from mental illness or was having some kind of confusion problem, or that something could have happened during that time period that caused her to be in a confused or delirious state, which made her fail to report the disappearance or to fully understand the situation or how to proceed, because she still sounded confused and illogical in mid-July when talking to LE imo.

I always thought Casey's answers didn't make sense half the time or she inserted words that didn't really connect with the sentence. I believe this is because she is lying so her heart is racing, her brain is working overtime trying to come up with plausible answers and due to all the activity in her body she can't string together coherent thoughts. If you watch the jail videos there are a lot of times her answers are disjointed and confusing. She can not bring herself to admit her crime. Which is why I believe she refuses to see her parents. She doesn't want to face them or their questions.

 

[Patriciao]

Don't think that has been released, if in fact anything has been found. Pure speculation:

Casey's 'missing' Tiffany ring?
Casey's shoes/boots with evidence on/in treads?
Casey's 'missing' Blackjack Cell phone?

Or as someone stated earlier, terpenes (sp?) under Pontiac chassis (and/or TL's vehicle, which Casey used and was tested, IIRC.)

Short of an actual eye witness, can it be proved definitively that Casey was at the crime scene? And is that all-important when items that have been mentioned (such as the rare duct tape, baby blanket, particular garbage bags, the canvas laundry bag missing from the Anthony home <with a mate found in the garage> that Caylee was found inside, etc.) do implicate Casey (albeit indirectly.) I agree that all these taken together, especially with Casey's phone pings, and suspicious behavior afterward point to Casey and no one else. :cow:

This comment is in reference to Casey's missing Blackjack phone. That was the phone Universal supposedly gave her. She did not work at Universal. There was no Blackjack phone. That was Casey's lie to cover why she didn't have anyone's phone number that could support her story. (Even though she still had her Sim card that she swapped back and forth. The Blackjack had all her important numbers stored directly on it). That whole lie doesn't make sense either because if she had the numbers at one time to store them in the imaginary Blackjack did she then just totally forget all the numbers she entered, delete them off the phone she did have, erase them from her Sim card? You can't say Zanny was your friend for 4 years and not have one clue as to what her number was. Also there should be text history that could be recovered if Zanny truly existed. She said her and Zanny would text.

 

[chelle70]

I always thought Casey's answers didn't make sense half the time or she inserted words that didn't really connect with the sentence. I believe this is because she is lying so her heart is racing, her brain is working overtime trying to come up with plausible answers and due to all the activity in her body she can't string together coherent thoughts. If you watch the jail videos there are a lot of times her answers are disjointed and confusing. She can not bring herself to admit her crime. Which is why I believe she refuses to see her parents. She doesn't want to face them or their questions.

You are dead on right about this. This is what happens when someone is confronted and backed into a corner, but think they can still lie their way out of it.

 

[Laidbacksal]

Every single lie puts her right there at the crime scene.

If she had nothing to do with it, the truth would have been all she would have to tell.

 

[Turnadot]

Every single lie puts her right there at the crime scene.

If she had nothing to do with it, the truth would have been all she would have to tell.

Amen!

Also...31 days.

 

[Steely Dan]

Bolding by me....

Of course they are. If I was on the jury, I would be wondering why the defense team is spending so much time trying to prove that Casey did not place Caylee's remains where they were ultimately found. I would be wondering why (if their client was so innocent) they just don't say how Caylee got out of Casey's possession and/or who took Caylee from Casey. We are talking about a 2 year old child who would be totally dependent on their parent/caregiver, not an older child or teenager who wouldn't be in their parent's/caregiver's immediate supervision 24/7. Yep, you are right. The defense team is chasing red herrings because they've got nothing else.

When the body was placed there is just a small part of their crackpot theory on what happened. We'll have to wait for trial to see how this puzzle fits together.

 

[magic-cat]

I think it will be very hard to prove first degree murder. First degree murder would mean that she intentionally murdered Caylee. For some reason, I don't think she ever intended to murder her. I think it was an accident, and then she lied her way through this thing to get out of it, but her lies have back fired.

She somehow accidentally wrapped 3 layers of duct tape around her baby's face? Doubtful. I think murder one is a cinch.

 

[Laidbacksal]

She somehow accidentally wrapped 3 layers of duct tape around her baby's face? Doubtful. I think murder one is a cinch.

I have changed my stance.



What did it, you ask?

We'll, it's her cold, heartless demeanor, and the way she shows no emotion at all about her child. It's the way she talked to her parents, telling them she didn't know what was going on in the outside world and then saying that JB keeps her informed of everything - all just to manipulate her parents. The way she walked through the room after being arrested the first time, cameras were flashing as she had that cocky little smirk. The way she had to lie her way out of everything when telling the truth would have been the easiest route if she hadn't done anything.

Either it was a mistake, and she is shocked that she no longer can show emotion, or it was intentional. My vote is that it was intentional because there is nothing good about this woman. She's a liar, a theif, a manipulator, a tramp, she has entitlement issues, betrayer, and just everything you find in people who are in and out of jail - cunning, deceitful, crafty, but down right stupid. Beauty can only take you so far in life.

 

[charok]

I have changed my stance.



What did it, you ask?

We'll, it's her cold, heartless demeanor, and the way she shows no emotion at all about her child. It's the way she talked to her parents, telling them she didn't know what was going on in the outside world and then saying that JB keeps her informed of everything - all just to manipulate her parents. The way she walked through the room after being arrested the first time, cameras were flashing as she had that cocky little smirk. The way she had to lie her way out of everything when telling the truth would have been the easiest route if she hadn't done anything.

Either it was a mistake, and she is shocked that she no longer can show emotion, or it was intentional. My vote is that it was intentional because there is nothing good about this woman. She's a liar, a theif, a manipulator, a tramp, she has entitlement issues, betrayer, and just everything you find in people who are in and out of jail - cunning, deceitful, crafty, but down right stupid. Beauty can only take you so far in life.

and we cant forget the searched for neck breaking, chloroform, how to make chloroform...done ( iirc when GA and CA were at work) on the computer.i vote w/ intentional. i too at first thought accident, *(the pool., left in a hot car,ect) but then i heard about the web surfing...

 

[jon_burrows]

She somehow accidentally wrapped 3 layers of duct tape around her baby's face? Doubtful. I think murder one is a cinch.

ITA

This case is so simple. There is no reason for 3 layers of duct tape to be placed over a toddler's face (wrapped all the way into their hair) except to smother the life out of them.

IMO

 

[kaRN]

'Dont worry, I didn't say anything.' KC as uttered to her parents in jail visit number 1.

Yeah keep secrets. I read somewhere thats what you do when you're trying to cover up a murder.....ooops when a baby goes missing.

 

[kaRN]

ITA

This case is so simple. There is no reason for 3 layers of duct tape to be placed over a toddler's face (wrapped all the way into their hair) except to smother the life out of them.

IMO

The three layers were also to prevent Caylee from being able to remove the murder weapon IMO.