light bulb moments #2

[Wise Old Owl]

ITA with all of your posts!

This video becoming public really has all of them CYA.

What do you think they were going to do if they did find her?

This is ONLY MY OPINION (and I have giving a lot of thought to this) I think it was either JB or LA on the phone with DC. I think the Brackenwood house was researched and it was known that it was abandoned a year ago by a family named *G* AND that same family went back to Puerto Rico. So, I think the the search was to find the body and move it to that house which would perpetuate that the "nanny" did it defense.

So does anyone have a theory on where Casey put Caylee on this night? The night she removed Caylee from the bed she was sharing with RM. Where do you take your 2 year old child in the middle of the night? If there was no ZFG and CA did not call her home with Caylee, then where did she place this baby? The trunk? the abandoned house on Brackenwood? Geez this girl has no limits to her meaness.

The night Caylee disappeared from RM's - IMO she (Caylee) was taken to LA's.

 

[natsound]

Looking to see if this Lee Anthony story is on any of the wires yet. Isn't.
Found this comment which was interesting though.

Topix poster....
just heard something I haven't heard before on the jail house tapes. Casey says to Cindy, "Yuri has it set in his mind that I've done something." Cindy replies by saying, "Well, he thinks you GUYS did something to Caylee." Just an accidental observation I stumbled upon.

All I know is that CA is clueless... she was probably thinking KC and TonE at that time. My guess is that there's nothing to that statement.

 

[natsound]

This is ONLY MY OPINION (and I have giving a lot of thought to this) I think it was either JB or LA on the phone with DC.

The night Caylee disappeared from RM's - IMO she (Caylee) was taken to LA's.

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But why would JB have any interest in meddling with evidence? That's what I don't see. This is such a high-profile case, and it will either make or break JB. I don't see him having enough vested interest to tamper with evidence, and risk getting exposed.

I don't see any reason for LA to call DC either. If LA knew where the remains were, why would he want DC to find them?

 

[Ripley007]

I logged on tonight to share my light bulb moment that happened during the NG show tonight. That thread is now locked so I'll share it here.
On her 2/2/09 show, there was footage of ZG. At least twice the camera panned down to ZG's hands on her lap. She was nervously fidgeting them. I noticed that on the back of her left hand, between her thumb and pointer finger, was a heart tattoo. Like 3/4" or so in size, with her initials ZG inside it.
Imagine if the heart sticker recovered has eviedence of the initials ZG on it??? No way could this info be leaked before the trial. Imagine what damage it would do the "Real" ZG. But, also imagine, the strength of her case against KC if she did indeed write ZG on that sticker!
We know that it's possible KC saw ZG on June 17. Could she have added the heart sticker to the duct tape, on or after June 17 in a hasty attempt to frame ZG? What else found with the remains could suggest an attempt to frame the babysitter? Toys, diapers, connections to Caylee the babysitter wanted out of her house?

 

[Rumpole]

I logged on tonight to share my light bulb moment that happened during the NG show tonight. That thread is now locked so I'll share it here.
On her 2/2/09 show, there was footage of ZG. At least twice the camera panned down to ZG's hands on her lap. She was nervously fidgeting them. I noticed that on the back of her left hand, between her thumb and pointer finger, was a heart tattoo. Like 3/4" or so in size, with her initials ZG inside it.
Imagine if the heart sticker recovered has eviedence of the initials ZG on it??? No way could this info be leaked before the trial. Imagine what damage it would do the "Real" ZG. But, also imagine, the strength of her case against KC if she did indeed write ZG on that sticker!
We know that it's possible KC saw ZG on June 17. Could she have added the heart sticker to the duct tape, on or after June 17 in a hasty attempt to frame ZG? What else found with the remains could suggest an attempt to frame the babysitter? Toys, diapers, connections to Caylee the babysitter wanted out of her house?

I'm an optimist?

When I saw that in the thread. I imediately thought of the KC in troub side and not the ZG in troub.

 

[Egoslayer]

I will share another thought that I have not sure if this is lightbulb or not but here goes..

KC had her laptop while she was gone from the home from June 15th-July 15th, she was leaving AL house and acting like she was going to work daily..My gut tells me that she was really sitting around in different apartment parking lots and Pfishing (I think that is what they call it) free internet services from people who had no idea....Follow me I am getting somewhere with this...

When LE went to Sawgrass Apts to talk to the manager to see if they had a ZFG living there, the apt manager looked on her computer and saw where one had been there to look at apt on June 17th..

I think that KC was basically able to hack into Sawgrass Apt computers on that day by Pfishing there internet signal and that is how she knew about ZFG being at Sawgrass on the 17th..And since she had just either killed Caylee or found her dead, she decided this would now become her Nanny..and she then had an entire month to decide what she would say if she ever saw her parents again.

Just so we use the right terms...

Phishing = stealing usernames and passwords from people who click harmful links.

stealing internet = stealing internet.

 

[ThoughtElf]

Here is another big HUH???? moment for me..

Remains located----Dec 11th-2008
Anothony's fly in from California---Dec 12-2008
Retain new attorney----ASAP
BC starts talking about immunity for A's---Immidiatly
LA hires attorney---Right after remains are located
LA Attorney--starts talking about charges his client might face
PI's--Start talking about tape that shows no body--Dec 16th-
PI--DC starts lying about why he was in the woods--1st wk of Jan--2009
Hoover--admits that DC knew remains were in woods--Dec 14th

Something is very wrong with this picture and there are so many light bulbs going off you could lite up Orlando...I can't wait to see what the SA has on this family and I hope to god they are indicted on something so they cannot profit off of this poor baby....They have already gotten more than enough and I hope at they very least they lose everything they have...I am so dang mad at this family I cant beleive they are still leaving that poor baby's remains just laying at the funeral home without a proper burial...If they can do this I am not surprised that they were able to leave her just lying in the wood to furthur decompose so LE could not determine how she died....This case is so much past Bizare I don't even know what to call it anymore...

Sorry for the rant.

Just for clarity, and I'll have to post this on the Myth Buster thread, but BC became the A's attorney on Tuesday, December 11th. He just didn't get the opportunity to speak with them until December 11th, the day the remains were found.

Link isn't in my back pocket at the moment, but BC himself stated this during one of his first video-taped news conferences on behalf of the A's.

 

[Egoslayer]

I have a hard time seeing KC tugging around an amber glass jar of chloroform with her, keeping it cold. The chemical easily dissipates and would "water out" if not stored correctly. Also it's only effective for about 5-10 minutes. After reading more about chloroform, I don't think it has anything to do with this case. I think the trunk was cleaned with bleach which caused a mild reaction.

It's more likely that KC had a stun gun, used benadryl, or some other more readily available and more stable drug.

 

[nancy botwin]

I logged on tonight to share my light bulb moment that happened during the NG show tonight. That thread is now locked so I'll share it here.
On her 2/2/09 show, there was footage of ZG. At least twice the camera panned down to ZG's hands on her lap. She was nervously fidgeting them. I noticed that on the back of her left hand, between her thumb and pointer finger, was a heart tattoo. Like 3/4" or so in size, with her initials ZG inside it.
Imagine if the heart sticker recovered has eviedence of the initials ZG on it??? No way could this info be leaked before the trial. Imagine what damage it would do the "Real" ZG. But, also imagine, the strength of her case against KC if she did indeed write ZG on that sticker!
We know that it's possible KC saw ZG on June 17. Could she have added the heart sticker to the duct tape, on or after June 17 in a hasty attempt to frame ZG? What else found with the remains could suggest an attempt to frame the babysitter? Toys, diapers, connections to Caylee the babysitter wanted out of her house?

I didn't think about the heart tattoo connection until people posted after Nancy Grace-- thank you for addressing it! Even if "ZG" wasn't written on the sticker, it's creepy to imagine Casey may have put the sticker on the tape to leave (what was in Casey's deranged mind) an awesome clue, leading back to ZFG.

I don't know if that's what happened, but thinking about the possibility gives me chills!

 

[ThoughtElf]

I'm an optimist?

When I saw that in the thread. I imediately thought of the KC in troub side and not the ZG in troub.

I can't recall, has NG ever hand a hand-writing analyst on her show in regards to this case? ZG on the sticker in KC's hand-writing would seal the deal for me.

 

[Egoslayer]

I didn't think about the heart tattoo connection until people posted after Nancy Grace-- thank you for addressing it! Even if "ZG" wasn't written on the sticker, it's creepy to imagine Casey may have put the sticker on the tape to leave (what was in Casey's deranged mind) an awesome clue, leading back to ZFG.

I don't know if that's what happened, but thinking about the possibility gives me chills!

IMO, heart tattoos are too common. I have a heart tattoo. Am I Caylee's real killer now?

 

[ThoughtElf]

Just so we use the right terms...

Phishing = stealing usernames and passwords from people who click harmful links.

stealing internet = stealing internet.

Do you have as much difficulty as do in believing KC had enough 'clue' to do either?

 

[radio]

I have a hard time seeing KC tugging around an amber glass jar of chloroform with her, keeping it cold. The chemical easily dissipates and would "water out" if not stored correctly. Also it's only effective for about 5-10 minutes. After reading more about chloroform, I don't think it has anything to do with this case. I think the trunk was cleaned with bleach which caused a mild reaction.

It's more likely that KC had a stun gun, used benadryl, or some other more readily available and more stable drug.

Yes, Ego - I agree with ya. Can you imagine carting chloro around, mixing, bottling, trying to use while good. Nah!!

And as you mentioned - the short duration.

 

[ThoughtElf]

IMO, heart tattoos are too common. I have a heart tattoo. Am I Caylee's real killer now?

Ditto. Also with initials, but certainly wouldn't be seen on a national tv program.

 

[Egoslayer]

Ditto. Also with initials, but certainly wouldn't be seen on a national tv program.

Here's the best screencap I can get for now.

 

[ThoughtElf]

Here's the best screencap I can get for now.

TYVM.

(For clarity, let me add that due to the location of my heart tattoo, it would not be seen on National TV)

 

[Rumpole]

TYVM.

(For clarity, let me add that due to the location of my heart tattoo, it would not be seen on National TV)

You could show it here there is only a few about.

It's late where I am. B______y late in the US?

 

[ThoughtElf]

You could show it here there is only a few about.

It's late where I am. B______y late in the US?

I would imagine it is the same time in the US on the East Coast as it is now where I am in my country. B____y here, too.

Sadly, my web cam is on a timer lock, sort of like a vault. DH finangled that.

 

[Rumpole]

I would imagine it is the same time in the US on the East Coast as it is now where I am in my country. B____y here, too.

Sadly, my web cam is on a timer lock, sort of like a vault. DH finangled that.

Imagine what it would be like if we all had web cams here?

Having been very disapointed by filmed versions of books I think it best to leave much to the imagination.

 

[ThoughtElf]

Imagine what it would be like if we all had web cams here?

Having been very disapointed by filmed versions of books I think it best to leave much to the imagination.

I quite agree. The Saga of Addicted WS'ers wouldn't translate well to the small web screen.

Back on topic: my most recent light-bulb moment was the pen flirtation in the most recent motion hearing. Flippant flipping.