Lisa Stebic-Plainfield, IL mother of 2

[CW]

I noticed on the second map that I posted that there is a river very close to where Craig works. I wonder if they have or are going to get divers and search that body of water?

 

[strach304]

I researched the Dial Corp. last night because I can't get his statement of making Lisa disappear and never found out of my head. That just screams to me he already had an idea of how he'd do this.

His position as a pipefitter would also fall under steam fitter and Dial Corp just had a major gas boiler upgrade system put in by a company named Menex Inc. in March2005. His position would be O&M I really feel he may have taken her to the plant that morning because of the timeframe and not falling out of line with his normal routine.

I also mapped out the area and saw how close it is so he'd only have to go a short distance with her body, no big risk of being pulled over. I will give a link that shows the big containers they have the chemicals stored in and see what you all think. LE needs to see if there's a back area he would go into since he wouldn't be working in the main manufacturing part of the plant. He could even have keys for all we know.
This one is a pic that gives an idea of the large containers for industrial chemicals and an idea of the layout. The Mont. one is one of their largest manufacturing facilities;
http://www.dialcorp.com/index.cfm?page_id=240

This is the info on their gas boiler system;
http://www.energysolutionscenter.org/resources/PDFs/GT-W05_capturing_the_efficiency.pdf
The pic shown in the Menex link is the one at the Dial Corp. in Montgomery.

 

[twinkiesmom]

There's no reason for him to bring her to his work when he was an avid hunter and presumably would have known of numerous places to get rid of a body. As others have pointed out, the grave could have been predug.

 

[FactsareFacts]

There's no reason for him to bring her to his work when he was an avid hunter and presumably would have known of numerous places to get rid of a body. As others have pointed out, the grave could have been predug.

I agree twinkiesmom. I really feel after that April 17th court date where Lisa was fighting him for both support and alimony he started making his plan to make good on his threat to her. "I will make you dissappear, and nobody will ever find you before I will let you have anything." His attorney probably told him that day that he was going to have to pay her whether he liked it or not and Craig decide NOT! I don't think this was a crime of passion or a fight that got out of hand. He knew where he would dispose of her before he killed her. We still don't know if he went to work Tuesday do we?

 

[fran]

I agree twinkiesmom. I really feel after that April 17th court date where Lisa was fighting him for both support and alimony he started making his plan to make good on his threat to her. "I will make you dissappear, and nobody will ever find you before I will let you have anything." His attorney probably told him that day that he was going to have to pay her whether he liked it or not and Craig decide NOT! I don't think this was a crime of passion or a fight that got out of hand. He knew where he would dispose of her before he killed her. We still don't know if he went to work Tuesday do we?

I wonder if the neighbors noticed him leave that night? You know, after the kids were asleep.

Good Grief! I wonder exactly what kind of chemicals he works with? A vat of the right chemical can make anyone disappear.

Oh, I think I'm going to be sick.

JMHO
fran

 

[Mama-cita]

I researched the Dial Corp. last night because I can't get his statement of making Lisa disappear and never found out of my head. That just screams to me he already had an idea of how he'd do this.

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I am sorry, I am new to following this, when/where did he say he would make her disappear and never be found? Not doubting you, I am just curious as to what has come out so far...

 

[fran]

I am sorry, I am new to following this, when/where did he say he would make her disappear and never be found? Not doubting you, I am just curious as to what has come out so far...

I'm not starch and I can't remember exactly when he said it, but I think she told the couple she used to stay with on occasion (with her two kids) when she was trying to stay away from her husband. The couple she used to go and visit had something to do with a local 'women's shelter.'

You see, eventhough she never told her family, she'd told her neighbors and this couple, that if anything ever happened to her, to look at her husband.
THAT, I do remember her saying for sure.

JMHO
fran

 

[FactsareFacts]

I'm not starch and I can't remember exactly when he said it, but I think she told the couple she used to stay with on occasion (with her two kids) when she was trying to stay away from her husband. The couple she used to go and visit had something to do with a local 'women's shelter.'

You see, eventhough she never told her family, she'd told her neighbors and this couple, that if anything ever happened to her, to look at her husband.
THAT, I do remember her saying for sure.

JMHO
fran

Yes you are right she told the couple that she and the kids had stayed with at least 4 times in the past few months what Craig said. She also had been to the shelter for counselling. Craig tried to disput that Lisa was affraid of him or that she had gone to the shelter. The shelter was contacted by a reporter and they said that they were working with investigators. The couple told a reporter about Craigs threat to make her dissappear. Seems he thought she didn't tell anyone, guess he was wrong.

 

[puglet]

If he commutes to Montgomery, then he has a 20 minute drive at best -- even with traffic. There is a river -- the Fox River -- that runs through Oswego and Montgomery. I don't think he would put her body there though because it is very shallow. You can walk across it.

This morning on my way to work I saw a search team doing a line search through a field off 127th Street working their way towards Plainfield North High School. It was spooky and made me feel sick. I'm sure they are looking for clues, but don't think they are going to find any in the field. I think they need to look in the house!!

 

[strach304]

When he said disappear and never be found what if he meant that literally? Burning and use of chemicals wouldn't be the first time someone tried to dispose of a body that way. Burying her isn't fool proof since animals may get to her, a witness spotting him during that timeframe would give away the area. If he's at work that's where he's supposed to be. I guess it doesn't matter so much anyway because I doubt LE could trace it anyway.

 

[Liz]

There's no reason for him to bring her to his work when he was an avid hunter and presumably would have known of numerous places to get rid of a body. As others have pointed out, the grave could have been predug.

Twikiesmom, this is the first I've read or seen anything about a grave being predug. It's an interesting concept.

 

[strach304]

The latest: they found a body but not Lisa.
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/local_story_132192900.html

 

[philamena]

Why can't the husband be arrested or at least questioned for probable cause? Friday night Fox news reported that the father, Lisa and the kids were home together the day Lisa disappeared. The reporter said that the dad gave the kids money so they could go to the store and buy candy. :banghead: Now I'm not detective but sounds to me like the dad wanted to get rid of the kids. When the kids returned home from the store......their mom was missing. The dad imo should be strenuously questioned.

 

[txsvicki]

This threat of making women disappear during a divorce must be pretty common. I know one man who threatened and got he wife to lay off his assets, and I know a woman who was threatened by her criminal defense lawyer ex and got nothing at all in the divorce, even having to give the two boys.

 

[Bobbisangel]

Why can't the husband be arrested or at least questioned for probable cause? Friday night Fox news reported that the father, Lisa and the kids were home together the day Lisa disappeared. The reporter said that the dad gave the kids money so they could go to the store and buy candy. :banghead: Now I'm not detective but sounds to me like the dad wanted to get rid of the kids. When the kids returned home from the store......their mom was missing. The dad imo should be strenuously questioned.

I can't remember how far away the store was but it wasn't so close that the kids would have been back in 15 minutes. He would have had plenty of time to murder her and at least put her body into the trunk of a car before the kids got back. I would imagine he hid her body and then disposed of it late that night. Strangling someone would only take a few minutes and I believe that they had a garage which the car was probably in. I would imagine he had it all figured out with the timing and everything. By the time the kids got home he was probably all organized and everything looked normal. Because Lisa always went jogging the kids wouldn't think a thing of her being gone.

I would imagine that his attorney is blocking every angle that LE might try. Can't they at least get a search warrent and search the house, vehicles, garage? After the statements that he has made they have the right to be suspicious of him. Him going to court to get custody of the kids raises eyebrows too. He knows darn well that she isn't going to sneak into town and grab the kids. I also heard that he put the kids into a different school too but so far that is gossip I think. It seems to me that he is doing his best to try and make LE believe that she is still alive and just took off. I hope they aren't falling for that bunch of bull. He is just like the rest of the "innocent" husbands whose wives have just taken off never to be seen again

 

[FactsareFacts]

I can't remember how far away the store was but it wasn't so close that the kids would have been back in 15 minutes. He would have had plenty of time to murder her and at least put her body into the trunk of a car before the kids got back. I would imagine he hid her body and then disposed of it late that night. Strangling someone would only take a few minutes and I believe that they had a garage which the car was probably in. I would imagine he had it all figured out with the timing and everything. By the time the kids got home he was probably all organized and everything looked normal. Because Lisa always went jogging the kids wouldn't think a thing of her being gone.

I would imagine that his attorney is blocking every angle that LE might try. Can't they at least get a search warrent and search the house, vehicles, garage? After the statements that he has made they have the right to be suspicious of him. Him going to court to get custody of the kids raises eyebrows too. He knows darn well that she isn't going to sneak into town and grab the kids. I also heard that he put the kids into a different school too but so far that is gossip I think. It seems to me that he is doing his best to try and make LE believe that she is still alive and just took off. I hope they aren't falling for that bunch of bull. He is just like the rest of the "innocent" husbands whose wives have just taken off never to be seen again

The store was about 1 mile from the house and they rode their bikes. The other thing that gets me is that he said and a neighbor said she always drove to the school to work out. The school was over 3 miles away. Neighbors said they didn't see her leave and saw no vehicles in the area around 6pm when he claims he didn't "see" her leave. Although he said she had her purse and cell phone. Guess he's psychic too.

 

[Liz]

That gets me too -- that he didn't see her leave, yet somehow he knew she took her purse and cell phone. (Admittedly, IF he had keys to her car that was in the garage, he could have already looked inside for them.)


It also bugs me that we've never heard mention of a description of her clothing; what he or the children last saw her wearing.


Here's a snippet from Sat, May 12th Herald News:

Police have conducted "basic" searches of the Stebics' house and Lisa Stebic's car, he said. Nothing significant was found on her computer, which was turned over to police by Lisa's husband Craig.


At least LE was able to do 'basic searches' of the Stebic home, for whatever that's worth.

 

[FactsareFacts]

Someone pasted at CTV that a hiker discovered human remains about 75 miles from Plainfield Ill. in the bush. Described as a woman in her twenties but the coroner is preforming an autopsy. Also someone who searched on Saturday said friends were saying Lisa worked part time some evenings as a custodian at a school. Funny her husband didn't mention this. He also did not participate in the search. Apparently he was unable to give LE a description on what Lisa was wearing as well. Yeah but he knew she had her purse and cell?

 

[gidget641]

Someone pasted at CTV that a hiker discovered human remains about 75 miles from Plainfield Ill. in the bush. Described as a woman in her twenties but the coroner is preforming an autopsy. Also someone who searched on Saturday said friends were saying Lisa worked part time some evenings as a custodian at a school. Funny her husband didn't mention this. He also did not participate in the search. Apparently he was unable to give LE a description on what Lisa was wearing as well. Yeah but he knew she had her purse and cell?

May 14, 2007 BEACH PARK, Ill. - The Lake County Sheriff's Office is investigating the discovery of human remains found in the town of Beach Park.

More at link http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5301909

If this is the same body that the ctv poster is speaking of, channel 7 news reported the remains to have been a skeleton. Lisa has not been gone long enough for it to be her if the news report is correct on the condition of the remains found.

 

[rd_jfc]

Although described as a skeleton, the body is also described as apparently a woman in her 20's.

Some missing woman has been found today. But who?

rd