Live MSM coverage on Baby Lisa 19 October 2011

[Donjeta]

Quest by Fox anchor: are they cooperating w/t police?
JT: i've asked them to tell us, t public and victims, what they need; make a list

Oh.

It could give the defense team some handy hints as to what LE is looking for.

 

[Bon]

What happened to the work cell?

Well there's a nice discrepancy from their own attorney.....who knows for sure they are innocent:twocents:

 

[Peliman]

Could he have misunderstood the question or is there some sort of context to his statement? For example, they wouldn't need probable cause for a warrant to search the house because the family has opened the house to LE? I just can't see him being so off base like that - I'm guessing there may be some context to his statement we're not getting.

I thought I heard him say that probable cause was only needed for an arrest, not a search warrant. ??? Am I hearing things or is this naah can't be, maybe he's referring to a consensual search. Wasn't real clear on this, anyway I'll not be paying much attention to the defense lawyers right away.

 

[Donjeta]

WHY did the story about the 911 call change??? 911 should be able to say which number they were called from and if not the neighbor can say whether they called from his/her phone or not. That oughta be the one thing they get right every time since it's verifiable.

Is he just not that well informed or is there some rhyme and reason that I'm not getting?

 

[Bon]

Maybe he gets alot of media coverage, but Melanie was convicted, and Joran was not charged when Tacopina represented him..... when I listen to him talk, I am not personally impressed.

And that's perfectly ok

 

[nursebeeme]

JT: they're cooperating-they submitted to additional hair and [sample] tests yesterday
JT: i'm not needed there now>we have someone on the ground there now

JT re cell phones: they didn't make call on cell phone; they didn't have them---they went to neighbor's house to make phone call [911 call]

well... there is another inconsistency! JI said he used his work phone~

 

[AnaTeresa]

I thought I heard him say that probably cause was only needed for an arrest, not a search warrant. ??? Am I hearing things or is this naah can't be, maybe he's referring to a consensual search. Wasn't real clear on this, anyway I'll not be paying much attention to the defense lawyers right away.

I wasn't able to listen to the interview myself, so I'm only guessing. He had made a previous statement to the media today that LE was free to search the house at any time, he wasn't sure why they had gotten a warrant. I'm wondering if his statement about not needing probable cause wasn't meant to talk about the requirements for a search warrant, but instead supposed to refer to the fact that the family would give permission for LE to search, and thus no warrant was needed.

It seems odd for an experienced attorney (or any attorney!!) to say that probable cause is not needed for a search warrant, so I'm thinking there must be some sort of context to his statement that we missed.

 

[Peliman]

I wasn't able to listen to the interview myself, so I'm only guessing. He had made a previous statement to the media today that LE was free to search the house at any time, he wasn't sure why they had gotten a warrant. I'm wondering if his statement about not needing probable cause wasn't meant to talk about the requirements for a search warrant, but instead supposed to refer to the fact that the family would give permission for LE to search, and thus no warrant was needed.

It seems odd for an experienced attorney (or any attorney!!) to say that probable cause is not needed for a search warrant, so I'm thinking there must be some sort of context to his statement that we missed.

It was a response to a question asked about the parents cooperating and LE needing a search warrant. He kind of played it off as though it was not needed. I suppose that's partially true because LE has the warrant now.

 

[Donjeta]

Maybe he meant that it didn't mean there was probable cause that JI and DB had done anything, as they would need if they wanted to arrest the family

from http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/search-warrant-basics-29742.html

Police officers obtain search warrants by convincing a judge or magistrate that they have "probable cause" to believe that criminal activity is occurring at the place to be searched or that evidence of a crime may be found there

Since the home is allegedly the crime scene Lisa was snatched from there might be evidence of that crime, whoever it may have been committed by.

 

[Velouria]

And I hate to think anyone in the WS community had anything to do with bringing these so-called friends forward. All that interview did was give the MSM a chance to go with another gossipy, lurid headline.

I don't necessarily think those friends had much to offer in the way of helpful insights, but I'm not going to criticize another poster for taking that route. IMO, we're all interested in seeing that Lisa comes home, but we may have differing views on how to help make that happen.

 

[gliving]

Did anyone read the comment post today @ 8:24 cst?!?

http://www.kmbc.com/news/29526941/detail.html

It looks like KMBC just changed their comment rules. Now you have to sign in with a facebook account. Hopefully having to put your face on your comment will curb some of these off the wall comments. It always amazes me how silly some people are when they think they are anonymous.

"KMBC News
Hi Shelly, today we upgraded our comments to ones powered by Facebook Comments, replacing our old commenting system. Unfortunately, old comments could not be moved to Facebook."

Oh, looks like the comments go right to your facebook page.

 

[Peliman]

Foxnews reporting on the case, Megan Kelly has an interview done with the mother and teased as having Deb admit being drunk and being fuzzy about the 10:30pm checkup of Lisa.

More coming up! As the news like to tease.

 

[Boodles]

O/T I realize Fox is providing the most coverage of this case, and I don't normally watch it. But what is up with Megyn Kelly? Her speech is so stilted. Does she always speak this way?

 

[Peliman]

O/T I realize Fox is providing the most coverage of this case, and I don't normally watch it. But what is up with Megyn Kelly? Her speech is so stilted. Does she always speak this way?

Didn't notice but I've watched her for awhile and she's one intelligent lady. A former lawyer and can really stand her ground. She will ask the tough questions, did a two hour interview with Deb.

 

[Patty G]

Bill Stanton on FOX.

 

[Peliman]

Nothing much, the only thing relevant was a discussion about the time-line change to last seen of 6:40.

 

[HatesSociopaths]

 

[Patty G]

October 19, 2011
America Live ~2:00 PM EDT

Reporter states the police said, of which, is on the record: "The parents are unable to answer questions that only they can answer and they have refused to sit down with the police and talk about this case on their terms."

Hopefully a link will be posted.

 

[nursebeeme]

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/1...-parents-have-been-cooperating-since-day-one/

the lawyer on fox (video)

 

[nursebeeme]

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/1...-parents-have-been-cooperating-since-day-one/

the lawyer on fox (video)

he says the warrant is "FOR SHOW!"