Live MSM coverage on Baby Lisa 19 October 2011

[EllaMae]

Do we know that as a fact though? Has it been confirmed by LE?:waitasec:

I was just thinking about the Breanne Rodriguez case today . Weren't the parents in that case also led to believe they had failed the poly? Oddly enough that was in MO too. Perhaps scaring the parents is just the M.O. in MO.

It has NOT been established as an actual fact. DB says that LE told her she failed, but LE can lie during an interrogation.

 

[Turnadot]

Do we know that as a fact though? Has it been confirmed by LE?:waitasec:

I was just thinking about the Breanne Rodriguez case today . Weren't the parents in that case also led to believe they had failed the poly? Oddly enough that was in MO too. Perhaps scaring the parents is just the M.O. in MO.

Yep, one of the reasons I don't take LE's claim of DB failing a poly at face value. They could have lied.

But, pretending for a moment I do take it at face value, my response to her failing it is: so what?

There's a reason that aren't admissible in Court. IMO, they're worthless aside from a tactic for LE. I don't care if DB takes a dozen polygraphs and fails ever darn one of them - I only care about actual evidence.

IMO

 

[plaidmom]

Does anyone have a link to Law Enforcement making the statement that they need to RE-interview these two boys AGAIN?

I'm genuinely curious to hear if they've made this statement and if so exactly what is their motive for needing to interview a 6 and 8 yr old boys more than once??

Just as the attorney on MG night before last stated it's proven that children involved in anyway in an investigation need to be interviewed as soon after the fact as is possible(due to obvious reasons of their memories quickly fading about small details that actually could infact be quite important).. But more importantly that it's proven that interviewing/questioning children more than the Initial interview has proven to provide false or inaccurate information, with each additional interview done the more inaccurate or false details are told..

The attorney stated that the parents are absolutely correct in not allowing their children to be repeatedly interviewed, that the boys have been interviewed and that LE already have the boys accounts of the events as they occurred..

So, I am genuinely curious to see if LE is infact requesting to AGAIN, REPEATEDLY interview these two boys.. And if so what do they think they're going accomplish?

TIA to anyone with a link to LE stating this..

I want to thank you for reminding people that the boys have been interviewed.

I also have a general question for the experienced Websleuth peeps: What is the general protocol for LE interviewing minor children? I'm guessing there must rules and regulations?

As a parent, I would not want my minor child to be interviewed, ever, by LE without some sort of advocate for them in that room. Assuming here that LE did not want the parents present due to the nature of the case.

So, who facilitates in this case? A MSW? Child psychologist? Attorney chosen by the parents?

TIA!

 

[AphroditeInHerNighti]

Yep, one of the reasons I don't take LE's claim of DB failing a poly at face value. They could have lied.

But, pretending for a moment I do take it at face value, my response to her failing it is: so what?

There's a reason that aren't admissible in Court. IMO, they're worthless aside from a tactic for LE. I don't care if DB takes a dozen polygraphs and fails ever darn one of them - I only care about actual evidence.

IMO

Lying about the results of a poly to get a suspect off balance is legal and par for the course.. Im with you.. Im not concerned about the poly in the least.
Someone on the other thread mentioned bomb and arson is back on the scene BTW.

 

[AphroditeInHerNighti]

I want to thank you for reminding people that the boys have been interviewed.

I also have a general question for the experienced Websleuth peeps: What is the general protocol for LE interviewing minor children? I'm guessing there must rules and regulations?

As a parent, I would not want my minor child to be interviewed, ever, by LE without some sort of advocate for them in that room. Assuming here that LE did not want the parents present due to the nature of the case.

So, who facilitates in this case? A MSW? Child psychologist? Attorney chosen by the parents?

TIA!

Usually its the parent or legal guardian.

I hadnt had it confirmed the boys were actually interviewed. GOOD!

 

[Dr.Fessel]

They are still searching the house.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Bomb and Arson unit from Lees Summit is there again.

 

[JeannaT]

They are still searching the house.

Right now, they are still searching the house, at 9:54 p.m. their time?

Thanks so much -

 

[jjenny]

Bomb and Arson unit from Lees Summit is there again.

Why? :seeya:

 

[AphroditeInHerNighti]

They are still searching the house.

They certainly know something.. and whomever is guilty is having a cow right now. Be a nice time for a late night interrogation sans high priced defense atty ... you know, since everyone is so accessible and only concerned with finding Lisa.

 

[lag28wa]

Dr. Drew playing DB latest interview.

"I don't think alcohol changes a person enough to do something like that....."

Something like WHAT????

:waitasec:

I thought this was such a crazy statement for DB to make. I think she is totally misunderstanding. I think she was okay with admitting she was smashed because in her mind, the only danger is people thinking that alcohol would somehow alter her personality and make her come up with motive to intentionally harm her daughter. Since most can agree that's kind of a silly prospect, she sees no danger in this drunk business. It seems to be flying totally over her head that the first thing people are going to think of is an accidental death due to neglect or some other blackout related incident. Sometimes that woman makes me ---->:banghead:

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Right now, they are still searching the house, at 9:54 p.m. their time?

Thanks so much -

JeaneneKCTV5 Jeanene Kiesling

Reinforcements from Lee's Summit. Their bomb and arson unit now on the scene. #LisaIrwin
20 minutes ago

 

[Kat]

http://www.nwmocac.org/services/interviews.htm

Just an interesting website I have no idea if KCPD uses these practices. JMHO

 

[JeannaT]

Off topic but NG showed a more than a couple less than a few pictures of Lisa that I had not seen.

When her show is uploaded I'll try to screencapture them

What in the world does that bolded statement mean? ???

 

[passionflower]

Bomb and arson? WTHeck is going on???
why would they be there ?

 

[norest4thewicked]

Why? :seeya:

Your guess is as good as mine. They were there earlier today. My theory would be that they want to test something they found in the house for some type of burning or burned area. Were clothing burned in the house. Was something burned and then disposed of? But, it could be most anything really....:seeya:

 

[AphroditeInHerNighti]

Your guess is as good as mine. They were there earlier today. My theory would be that they want to test something they found in the house for some type of burning or burned area. Were clothing burned in the house. Was something burned and then disposed of? But, it could be most anything really....:seeya:

Bomb and arson has more equipment that can be used "off label" and not just for burning or burnt things or bombs. Everything from xrays to IR cams to etc..

 

[katydid23]

This is possible as I think DB is either an addict or has pd or both. But I don't get a sense of a grand plan in place, although I should with no apparent evidence. :crazy: I mean why wait until dad's first night shift to do the deed, looks good on paper but also draws more suspicion......JMO

I have questions about her 'mothering' skills and commitment as well. I loved to have 'grown-up time' when my kids were little too, but 6:40 pm is a bit premature. Especially if your infant is sick with a bad cold. In a situation like that you are expected to sacrifice some more of 'your' time to caring for your baby. 'Grown-up time' cannot begin until your children are really fast asleep and down for the night, and even then, you can only have 2, maybe 3 glasses of wine, never 5 to 10. That is not 'grown up' that is actually childish and immature and selfish. imoo So it makes me wonder about her commitment to her children if she made such poor and self centered choices that night.

It was a school night for the boys. it does not seem like they had much of a routine to help them prepare for their next morning either. If mom is blacked out drunk that night, how prepared are they going to be to tsake on school early the next morning?

 

[Kat]

What in the world does that bolded statement mean? ???

It means:

More than a couple

Less than a few

I didn't count?

That's what that means.

JMHO

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Bomb and arson? WTHeck is going on???
why would they be there ?

Speculation is they are x-raying the walls.