Live MSM coverage on Baby Lisa 19 October 2011

[passionflower]

could there of been products to make meth ? that would explode???

 

[norest4thewicked]

Bomb and arson has more equipment that can be used "off label" and not just for burning or burnt things or bombs. Everything from xrays to IR cams to etc..

Yes...I know. Different agencies specialize in different areas. I was trying to relate this to the case at hand where LE showed DB some burnt clothes, there was a dumpster fire near the house that night, etc. Just attempting to marry it up.

 

[katydid23]

Bomb and arson? WTHeck is going on???
why would they be there ?

I am wondering if they are looking for the same accelerants that were used in the dumpster fire?

 

[passionflower]

Speculation is they are x-raying the walls.

oh my........maybe that is why she won't go back to house.....
not to be grose, but what about odors .........oh maybe cell phones!!!!

 

[LancelotLink]

I have questions about her 'mothering' skills and commitment as well. I loved to have 'grown-up time' when my kids were little too, but 6:40 pm is a bit premature. Especially if your infant is sick with a bad cold. In a situation like that you are expected to sacrifice some more of 'your' time to caring for your baby. 'Grown-up time' cannot begin until your children are really fast asleep and down for the night, and even then, you can only have 2, maybe 3 glasses of wine, never 5 to 10. That is not 'grown up' that is actually childish and immature and selfish. imoo So it makes me wonder about her commitment to her children if she made such poor and self centered choices that night.

It was a school night for the boys. it does not seem like they had much of a routine to help them prepare for their next morning either. If mom is blacked out drunk that night, how prepared are they going to be to tsake on school early the next morning?

Family event?

 

[Dr. Know?]

Is luminol testing better at night? I've seen it done a lot at night time in cases. Maybe that's part of why they are there now.

 

[AlmostGone]

Yes...I know. Different agencies specialize in different areas. I was trying to relate this to the case at hand where LE showed DB some burnt clothes, there was a dumpster fire near the house that night, etc. Just attempting to marry it up.

I was thinking the same thing...

 

[AphroditeInHerNighti]

Yes...I know. Different agencies specialize in different areas. I was trying to relate this to the case at hand where LE showed DB some burnt clothes, there was a dumpster fire near the house that night, etc. Just attempting to marry it up.

I understand there were 2 dumpster fires that night. But I cant see a person burning clothing and bringing ashes back to the house.. nor can I see a person attempting to burn a baby and bring it back to the house. The fire wouldnt be hot enough to turn it to ashes.. KWIM? It would have been noticed by odor well before now I believe.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Is luminol testing better at night? I've seen it done a lot at night time in cases. Maybe that's part of why they are there now.

It has to be done in the dark, yes. However, they did already test in baby Lisa's room. Maybe they are doing other areas now. Anything is possible for sure.

 

[AphroditeInHerNighti]

It means:

More than a couple

Less than a few

I didn't count?

That's what that means.

JMHO

LMAO!! Either Im muddled from meds or you snuck in and took my meds.. I have NO idea what that meant! HAHA! :floorlaugh:

 

[realmomof5]

The dumpster fire was a few blocks away, I don't know what they would hope to find in the house that had anything to do with that or why they would need bomb and arson to do so.
Bomb and arson has extremely advanced equipment along with specially trained dogs, so judging from all of the black "trays" coming out of there today, I bet they are x-rating every wall in the home. JMO

 

[norest4thewicked]

I understand there were 2 dumpster fires that night. But I cant see a person burning clothing and bringing ashes back to the house.. nor can I see a person attempting to burn a baby and bring it back to the house. The fire wouldnt be hot enough to turn it to ashes.. KWIM? It would have been noticed by odor well before now I believe.

There is only one confirmed dumpster fire, but someone could have attempted to start a fire that wouldn't burn and then moved on to a dumpster.

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

I have questions about her 'mothering' skills and commitment as well. I loved to have 'grown-up time' when my kids were little too, but 6:40 pm is a bit premature. Especially if your infant is sick with a bad cold. In a situation like that you are expected to sacrifice some more of 'your' time to caring for your baby. 'Grown-up time' cannot begin until your children are really fast asleep and down for the night, and even then, you can only have 2, maybe 3 glasses of wine, never 5 to 10. That is not 'grown up' that is actually childish and immature and selfish. imoo So it makes me wonder about her commitment to her children if she made such poor and self centered choices that night.

It was a school night for the boys. it does not seem like they had much of a routine to help them prepare for their next morning either. If mom is blacked out drunk that night, how prepared are they going to be to tsake on school early the next morning?

I'm still waiting for "adult" time. But I agree with you, but you have to be capable of being an adult and I think there's something organic at play or Lisa has more serious issues and she may well be emotionally stunted depending upon the origin. I don't say that lightly but ANYONE who can blah blah blah a potential blackout has some issues....JMO

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Since garbage pick-up day was Tuesday Morning, did the phones manage to get thrown in the garbage?

Let's hope and raying: that the phones were ALL that might have been tossed in the trash. jmo

 

[Kat]

Thanks for so kindly telling me that my post didn't make sense.

Thanks for so kindly and patiently asking me to clarify.

I'll catch up with this thread in the morning. Night all :seeya:

 

[Miziree]

This was posted on livewire earlier..

Police said its Bomb and Arson truck will be going to the scene on North Lister Avenue. Police Capt. Steve Young said the unit has some equipment that will aid the search, but there is not an explosive device on the property.
by Karen Yancey/Staff 8:58 AM

Also there are some new night photos up..

http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old

 

[norest4thewicked]

LMAO!! Either Im muddled from meds or you snuck in and took my meds.. I have NO idea what that meant! HAHA! :floorlaugh:

I understood what Kat was talking about...

 

[SmoothOperator]

"Judge" Janine is not a sitting judge.. She just plays one on TV now.. Her credibility flew out the window when she was the first one to start the bs campaign of Deb lying to her face by telling her she put that baby to bed at 10:30 and how dare Deb have the nerve to now state she put the baby to bed 4 hours earlier.. Can we say ratings seeker??

She is the very first one on Monday after lunch that started this bs with 10:30 bed time for Lisa!! She knows it and that's what pissed me off the most.. She knows that when there, boots on the ground in KC, that "judge"Janine herself spoke with these parents face to face and that Deb was saying bedtime 7:30!! She knows the very clear and concise difference In what she chose to start with her twisting the truth to sensationalize the 4 hour gap and THAT DEB HAD THE NERVE TO LIE TO JJ's FACE IN PERSON TELLING HER SHE PUT LISA DOWN TO BED WITH BOTTLE AT 10:30.. WHEN JJ. KNOWS GOOD AND DAMN WELL WHAT THAT TWISTING OF THE TRUTH WOULD DO IN SENSATIONALIZING THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IN 4HRS VS THE TRUTH AND REALITY OF IT ONLY BEING A 50minute difference!!! Huge difference and "judge" knew full well what she was doing.. This ain't her first rodeo!!

I dont like Deb and I personally have major issues with her on many levels.. But I certainly don't find a non-sitting judge that now plays one on TV has any clue of what the facts are ANd is absolutely privy to nothing in this case(phone records or anything else).. So her sensationalizing by her choosing to take the truth and twist it into something that is not accurate or factual.. And the motive of ratings..pluh-eeze!! she isn't privy to a thing and why would I believe someone that is spreading inaccurate and therefOr false bs?? She's a ratings driven tv personality and her priorities are In that biz..

Jmo, tho

 

[Wise Old Owl]

****SPECULATION ALERT*****

I THINK LE wan'ts those cell phones VERY VERY BADLY. IF they are x-raying the walls - well that's the logical assumption of what they are looking for. Also, dad being an electrician - knows all about "holes in walls and wires and what goes where inside a house".

Also, on why LE just won't let that house and backyard go. Again, I THINK they have gotten pings from those phones - whether or not they still are, they were at first and all the pings are RIGHT THERE in that area. So, again, logical assumption is that those phones are somewhere on that property.

The million dollar question is WHAT'S on those phones that LE wants so very very badly?

***END of specualtion alert***

You can now resume normal posting. :crazy:

 

[cluciano63]

As far as the LD test, I do tend to believe that she did fail. With the drinking, she had something worth covering up, at least initially, and I believe she probably did not tell the whole truth. Of course we don't know if she has yet told the entire truth, but I do believe that LE probably told her she did not pass and that it was true. JMO