LIVE MSM COVERAGE on BABY LISA - 22-23 OCTOBER 2011

[Bon]

CNN LIVE

Reporter on scene: ....quiet in front of parents' home today; a lawyer for family say details [of search warrant] will derail the investigation

-family is terrified for t whereabouts of their daughter
-according to a lawyer, family feels she's alive & out there, and they just want her back

I think someone they know very well is trying to DERAIL this investigation:crazy:

 

[matou]

I have no idea where to post this but:

How was DB gonna get up for the kids in the morning, to get them ready to go to school? Do they have their own alarm clocks? Did she use a cell phone to wake her up or an alarm clock? Did JI usually get the kids ready in the morning?

 

[Patty G]

I have no idea where to post this but:

How was DB gonna get up for the kids in the morning, to get them ready to go to school? Do they have their own alarm clocks? Did she use a cell phone to wake her up or an alarm clock? Did JI usually get the kids ready in the morning?

I would imagine she had an alarm clock. We don't know who gets the children up in the morning.

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[katydid23]

I have no idea where to post this but:

How was DB gonna get up for the kids in the morning, to get them ready to go to school? Do they have their own alarm clocks? Did she use a cell phone to wake her up or an alarm clock? Did JI usually get the kids ready in the morning?

I wondered the same thing. And didn't the 8 yr old have homework? No mention in the timeline of them doing their schoolwork for the next day.

She certainly did not have the boys welfare in mind, in any case. How were they supposed to be prepared for school the next morning with so much chaos going on with mom the night before?

 

[TheDuchess]

Does Deborah Bradley only have one outfit? :innocent:

I guess that means she must be guilty. What is that supposed to mean??

 

[curiositycat]

Does Deborah Bradley only have one outfit? :innocent:

I think maybe she doesn't want to go into the house and get anymore of her clothes. I saw one picture of JI carrying out of the house, what looked like, his clothes.

She doesn't want to be in that house at all. I think that is really interesting, I thought the first time I heard it, that something bad happened there and she can't face it. That was my gut feeling, and I still feel that way. MOO

 

[TheDuchess]

Just a question-is there any evidence that DB has a history of violence? I know that CA didn't either, but she also had a history of a lot of other stuff going on, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

The one thing I know is this-she has a witness (the neighbor) that was with her a very good portion of the night. I would be willing to be that the neighbor went home by 10 p.m. with the kids and DB's boys went to be shortly thereafter. It just doesn't seem plausible to me that DB could have turned violent and killed her baby, got rid of the body and back home without the kids catching her or Jeremy coming home. I also can't believe she had an accomplice. She didn't even have a phone to call anyone to come and help her.

It sounds to me like she was a bit of a drunk, someone knew that, and when she crashed, they took their chance-I also think whoever did it knew Jeremy was working late that night.

 

[TheDuchess]

I think maybe she doesn't want to go into the house and get anymore of her clothes. I saw one picture of JI carrying out of the house, what looked like, his clothes.

She doesn't want to be in that house at all. I think that is really interesting, I thought the first time I heard it, that something bad happened there and she can't face it. That was my gut feeling, and I still feel that way. MOO

Well, something bad did happen-her daughter disappeared.

 

[curiositycat]

Well, something bad did happen-her daughter disappeared.

True, but if I take that fact, along with her comment about that being "the omen house," its a bit strange. MOO

JI lost his daughter too, and he went in and got some clothes. He also stated he would move back there. They disagreed about that in the Megyn Kelly interview with them.

 

[TheDuchess]

True, but if I take that fact, along with her comment about that being "the omen house," its a bit strange. MOO

JI lost his daughter too, and he went in and got some clothes. He also stated he would move back there. They disagreed about that in the Megyn Kelly interview with them.

My mom was always afraid of her own shadow and I could see her doing that. My father was a realist and strong. He never let anything shake him. Different people with different personalities.

 

[natsound]

I guess that means she must be guilty. What is that supposed to mean??

Wow, you think that means she's guilty? :floorlaugh:

 

[JeannaT]

Does Deborah Bradley only have one outfit? :innocent:

Maybe she hasn't had time, or placed a priority, on doing laundry?

She'd be suspect if she wore lots of beautiful things, too, and did her hair.

 

[LadyPirate]

Originally Posted by matou
I have no idea where to post this but:

How was DB gonna get up for the kids in the morning, to get them ready to go to school? Do they have their own alarm clocks? Did she use a cell phone to wake her up or an alarm clock? Did JI usually get the kids ready in the morning?

I have no idea about these kids, but at 6 and 8, my kids had their own alarm clocks and they always got up by them. Now I was up, helping them with breakfast, etc, because that's what I should do, but they were fairly self-sufficient at those ages.

I had to remind them of bedtime and all that goes with that and I tucked them in until they told me to stop.

Maybe there was a routine, etc in this house, but I do know that while I was pretty laid back, my kids were in bed long before 10:30 on a school night. It doesn't seem that on this particular night, if there was a routine, it wasn't in place at that time.

 

[Sherbie]

I try always to give the benefit of the doubt when possible, but I'm with others who have commented on DB's having said she didn't initially check the back yard because she was afraid of what she might find. If there's even the tiniest chance your child might be lying out in the cold - alone, frightened, injured, needing her mommy - your fear of what you might find would never overrule your desire to locate and help your child. It just wouldn't.

That statement is the only thing so far for which I can't conceive of any alternate, benefit-of-the-doubt explanation. I mean, who would choose to let a potentially injured (or at least cold and missing) baby lie in distress in the elements - possibly every second counting for saving her life - because they're too worried about what they might find? No one - especially not the baby's parent.

This is nagging at me more than anything else so far. I'm still not ready to say she did something horrible to her child, but that statement is absolutely ridiculous and was made for a reason - either it was a poor attempt to think quickly in response to being questioned about the back yard (maybe to cover the fact that she knew there was no need to look there) or she knew the baby had been there and didn't want to associate herself with any evidence that might turn up.

I'm hoping I'm overlooking an innocent explanation. If someone can think of one, please post it. I'd love to have a reason not to feel this way about that statement of hers.

 

[tiredblondy]

With respect, I don't think I should have to question whether or not the FBI's dogs are highly trained. Just like I shouldn't have to question whether or not Agent John Doe is highly trained, but of course, Agent John Doe is not infallible.

Neither are the dogs.

But the training itself is top notch.

IMO

:clap::clap: Thank you Turnadot.

We have a whole thread on the dogs, we have a members who have sar dosg and we have heard their opinion after watching the dogs. The comment you quoted Turnadot was also stated last night.

I don't know if the purpose of these comments is to try to cause doubt or thinks they have more training than our experts or if they're working for the defense and are just trying to cast doubt. But any comments need to go on the dog thread and they keep appearing in other threads! It is very frustrating.

 

[katydid23]

I try always to give the benefit of the doubt when possible, but I'm with others who have commented on DB's having said she didn't initially check the back yard because she was afraid of what she might find. If there's even the tiniest chance your child might be lying out in the cold - alone, frightened, injured, needing her mommy - your fear of what you might find would never overrule your desire to locate and help your child. It just wouldn't.

That statement is the only thing so far for which I can't conceive of any alternate, benefit-of-the-doubt explanation. I mean, who would choose to let a potentially injured (or at least cold and missing) baby lie in distress in the elements - possibly every second counting for saving her life - because they're too worried about what they might find? No one - especially not the baby's parent.

This is nagging at me more than anything else so far. I'm still not ready to say she did something horrible to her child, but that statement is absolutely ridiculous and was made for a reason - either it was a poor attempt to think quickly in response to being questioned about the back yard (maybe to cover the fact that she knew there was no need to look there) or she knew the baby had been there and didn't want to associate herself with any evidence that might turn up.

I'm hoping I'm overlooking an innocent explanation. If someone can think of one, please post it. I'd love to have a reason not to feel this way about that statement of hers.

I agree. That statement is a big red flag for me. That and the fact they never called the stolen cell phones. I would have tried to do so immediately.imoo

ETA: My teen daughter has had her phone lost/stolen a few times. Each time we were able to go to Sprint and they immediately looked up her number to make sure it had not been used since she last used it herself.

Makes me wonder if they tried doing that. And if their phones were restricted then I am sure the cell company would have unrestricted them immediately given the dire circumstances, imoo.

 

[Kat]

True, but if I take that fact, along with her comment about that being "the omen house," its a bit strange. MOO

JI lost his daughter too, and he went in and got some clothes. He also stated he would move back there. They disagreed about that in the Megyn Kelly interview with them.

I apologize for being lost

I just got on not too long ago. It's still just noonish here. Can you tell me where Deborah said omen house? I'd like to look at that first!

TIA for helping me today

 

[tiredblondy]

I apologize for being lost

I just got on not too long ago. It's still just noonish here. Can you tell me where Deborah said omen house? I'd like to look at that first!

TIA for helping me today

Kat she said it in one of those media interviews I think it was the day they did so many.

 

[JeannaT]

I agree. That statement is a big red flag for me. That and the fact they never called the stolen cell phones. I would have tried to do so immediately.imoo

They were panicked trying to find their daughter. If LE didn't immediately attempt to call the cell phones, I'm surprised. Seems remiss. My guess is, somebody did try pretty quickly since they were told immediately that the phones were also missing.

 

[Patty G]

This thread is so confusing and getting harder to find most recent MSM news today. :crazy: