LIVE MSM COVERAGE on BABY LISA - 24 OCTOBER 2011

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Ok so I need to throw this out here because it is bugging the carp out of me and it is regards to the carpet issue and perhaps this will need its own thread.

In this video: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/23/3225517/irwin-cases-frustrations-continue.html ( at about 1:30 in the video) with the attorney speaking of the search of the house and how LE never took any samples of the carpet from the bedroom, but that they took carpet from the garage (apparently the large roll seen being carried), Im not sure if they actually even took the big roll to be processed or not, but in this second video : http://abcnews.go.com/US/baby-lisa-irwin-surveillance-footage-mystery-man/story?id=14795844 at about 1:57 you have the attorney in the home giving the tour and you will notice that when she bends down pointing out the carpet still there that it has been recently replaced (at least to me).

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If you take note of how she is able to put her fingers under the carpet and lift it as well as all the door casing and baseboard is missing from along the walls, one would be led to think that some recent remodeling was going on. Usally carpet is attached by carpet tack and held down by a binder bar of sorts when you have carpet meeting wood floor ar laminate in a doorway such as in the video. Someone doing there own remodeling could very well have not done this just due to being ignorant of how to do it right. I also notice the carpet hadn't been strectched to fit either.

I mean it could be nothing as LE could have removed it (baseboard,door casing) but because LE went for the carpet in the garage makes me think that this was new carpet in the bedroom and the old in the garage, thus why they did not remove any carpet from the parents bedroom.

Ugh I don't know, I am probably over analyzing the situation :crazy:


I posed this... this morning on a different thread. other websleuthers were questioning why they wouldn't take the carpet with them then, why it wasn't listed on the search warrant. My theory that i posted is below.

I think i may have seen this posted, but not sure which thread (there are so many that relate to each other!) but the carpet that was in the shed, looks like a pretty big remnant....if it was a remnant. What if DB and/or JI removed the carpet at night. and put another in its place. The carpet in the shed could have been the carpet in the bedroom. It looks like a pretty small bedroom, not sure the square footage. The cutting of the carpet could have played into the "clicking sounds" that the boys heard. A utility knife, or scissors being used. I had thought a mopping noise could be the clicking sound, since that's the sound my mops make (speaking of clean houses...mine, not so much) but anyway. Could explain the lack of a door floor threshold. I know there is another name for that. Sounds like a very intricate covering up scheme, but an electrician is not an unintelligent individual. The fact that they said next to the bed makes it more plausible that it was something on the floor and probably carpet. Otherwise they would have reported that the dogs hit on an item in the house. Although i am not ruling that out.

I don't buy that LE was doing some sort of show and tell with the carpet being removed and brought back. They purposefully blocked media and planes overhead. I think these people were just doing their jobs.

MOO
 
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Has anyone seen Deborah OR Jeremy with a picture of Lisa? Has anyone in that bunch EVER held up a photograph and looked into the tv cameras and said PLEASE look at this photo and look out for my baby. I haven't seen them even ACT like they are interested in finding her.

Not that I recall madge. It's one of the things that bothers me.

imo
 
  • #343
Tacopina on now.

But wait.....

Hold up


He's talking to MK live - but where he is its dark. WTH is going on?
 
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It's all about the benjamins with the interviews....

jmo

Well, that is just sad IMO. Getting the word out to the local people is the best chance of getting her baby back.(If she's been kidnapped)

Question: Are the local people doing any searching themselves? Or don't LE allow that?
 
  • #346
Joe T: watershed stuff-3 independent witnesses following almost a chart...what is t likelihood?
 
  • #347
ummm-what!!! Has Joe watch all her other interviews..something is not right here people!!!

In the MK interview Debbie states both boys were awake, so she told THEM they could sleep in her bedroom. (@ 3:30 mark) [ame]http://video.foxnews.com/v/1208764392001/exclusive-parents-of-missing-baby-lisa-speak-out[/ame]

In the Judge Jeanine video, Debbie says that Jeremy came into the bedroom and asked why Michael was in her bed.

?????

(I'm NOT liking where this is going!)
 
  • #348
Joe T in Rome, Italy
 
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Why would they be afraid of LE that's what I don't get,IMO I think LE have something to keep them focused on the house (apart from the decomp hit) that is leading them to believe DB/JI are involved.

Of course,if you are guilty then you have everything to be afraid of,when u start to realise LE are onto you.
JMO
I hope I made sense.
 
  • #350
OMG - just showed it - HE'S IN ROME!!!!

Rome, Italy 7:49PM

I give up
 
  • #351
Joe T: boys questioned for 5 hrs...no further damage to these boys
 
  • #352
Joe hedging on letting the boys be questioned again. Started off, oh yeah maybe so then starting to think about it and backtracking. SlickO
 
  • #353
Yes!! Thank you for saying that CG! How could you ignore local media when your child is missing? Perhaps not everyone watches national news but makes sure to tune into their local affiliate to at least check weather/sports.

Lisa's story/photos should be on LOCAL news constantly.

I wonder if DB or JI know there were LOCAL witnesses to some part of Lisa's "kidnapping." Maybe they don't want any memories to be brought forward if someone were to see this story on the LOCAL news.
 
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Rome? And I bet it was on Fox's dime. MOO.
 
  • #355
"We are grieving."

That's very telling.

There is no fight for Lisa's life to be fought for. Time to grieve. That's partly what her mindset is, IMO.

I wondered as well what they are grieving. According to them, someone came in the middle of the night and kidnapped their baby. When things like that happen, when a family member simply vanishes with no explanation, people hold onto hope FOREVER that their family member will be found and they will see that family member again. The turn over every rock, question everyone they can think of, camp out on LEs doorstep demanding updates and answers, they hire people like Tim Miller. They beg, they plead, they worry, they hope, they search.

And then, when the worst happens, and news comes that their family member is dead and gone forever, they finally grieve.

This family has skipped over a whole lot of steps in this process and one is left to ponder "why"?
 
  • #356
Joe T said boys asleep for most of the night.
 
  • #357
On Fox- Joe framing up the mystery guy theory.

Megyn- Why not let LE talk to the little boys? They been questioned by child experts once.....

Joe- With appropriate surroundings and questions.... sure
 
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I wondered as well what they are grieving. According to them, someone came in the middle of the night and kidnapped their baby. When things like that happen, when a family member simply vanishes with no explanation, people hold onto hope FOREVER that their family member will be found and they will see that family member again. The turn over every rock, question everyone they can think of, camp out on LEs doorstep demanding updates and answers, they hire people like Tim Miller. They beg, they plead, they worry, they hope, they search.

And then, when the worst happens, and news comes that their family member is dead and gone forever, they finally grieve.

This family has skipped over a whole lot of steps in this process and one is left to ponder "why"?

Yeah, THIS.
 
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