Lloyd Welch is Person of Interest

[simplifymylife2014]

LLWjr address on the charge of driving without a licence is the same as T.Welch. This is right behind Lake Forest mall.

Was that TW1 or TW2?

 

[richneil18]

I would think SR. jr would only be 16 in 1979. And Sr., lived in Germantown and
Gaithersburg in 80s and 90s. Lost Knife circle is directly behind Lake Forest mall.

We can only speculate these scenarios.

 

[siriunsun]

LLWjr address on the charge of driving without a licence is the same as T.Welch. This is right behind Lake Forest mall.

Seriously? I have not been able to find anything to substantiate that. In fact, T. Welch Jr. would have been too young to sign a lease at that point, since he was not 18 yet. If he stayed with TTWjr's dad for awhile, I still do not see what that would have to do with the case. Keep in mind, stuff from when TTWjr was not yet an adult is generally not going to be public information.

 

[simplifymylife2014]

I wonder if LLW2 was using TW1's car and if LE checked that out??

 

[richneil18]

http://familysearch.org
Name: T Welch
Titles and Terms (Original):
Also Known As:
2nd Also Known As Name:
3rd Also Known As Name:
Residence Date: 01 May 1987
Residence Place: Gaithersburg, Maryland, United States
Birth Date:
Phone Number:
Phone Number Recorded Date:
Address: 18409 Lost Knife Cir
Address Continued: Gaithersburg, Maryland 20886
Address Date: 01 May 1987
2nd Address:
2nd Address Continued:
2nd Address Date:
3rd Address:
3rd Address Continued:
3rd Address Date:
4th Address:
4th Address Continued:
4th Address Date:
5th Address:
5th Address Continued:
5th Address Date:
6th Address:
6th Address Continued:
6th Address Date:
Possible Relatives: Sarah L Welch
Record Number: 144235847



Citing this Record:
"United States Public Records, 1970-2009," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KTH1-6Q2 : accessed 7 March 2015), T Welch, Residence, Gaithersburg, Maryland, United States; a third party aggregator of publicly available information.

 

[steveP120]

http://familysearch.org
Name: T Welch
Titles and Terms (Original):
Also Known As:
2nd Also Known As Name:
3rd Also Known As Name:
Residence Date: 01 May 1987
Residence Place: Gaithersburg, Maryland, United States
Birth Date:
Phone Number:
Phone Number Recorded Date:
Address: 18409 Lost Knife Cir
Address Continued: Gaithersburg, Maryland 20886
Address Date: 01 May 1987
2nd Address:
2nd Address Continued:
2nd Address Date:
3rd Address:
3rd Address Continued:
3rd Address Date:
4th Address:
4th Address Continued:
4th Address Date:
5th Address:
5th Address Continued:
5th Address Date:
6th Address:
6th Address Continued:
6th Address Date:
Possible Relatives: Sarah L Welch
Record Number: 144235847



Citing this Record:
"United States Public Records, 1970-2009," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KTH1-6Q2 : accessed 7 March 2015), T Welch, Residence, Gaithersburg, Maryland, United States; a third party aggregator of publicly available information.

1987 is EIGHT years later than Lloyd's traffic violation in 1979. In March of 1979, a person 10 years old in 1974 would be fourteen or at most young fifteen. While many 16-year-olds in the late 70s, such as myself, drove and even had their own cars, only one 16 or 17 year old person, from a rich family, I knew had a nearly new two-year-old cars, as a 1977 Pontiac would be in 1979; Again, be careful of guilt by association. There was some discussion the car earlier on this thread, a bit of which I cut and pasted.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?234651-Lloyd-Welch-is-Person-of-Interest/page13

While below(from/via Richard) places Welch in Maryland in 1979?

A Traffic violation from 1979. Note that the record shows Welch's DOB as December 1952. He had no drivers license in 1979. Note that he failed to show for court and the case is still listed as "Active".

0000004479046 Welch, Lloyd Lee 12/1952 Defendant Rockville District Court Traffic ACTIVE CASE 03/06/1979
DISTRICT COURT FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY (ROCKVILLE) - TRAFFIC SYSTEM
Citation Number: 0000004479046
Case Status:ACTIVE CASE
Violation Date: 03/06/1979 Violation Time: 06:15 PM
Violation County: MONTGOMERY COUNTY (ROCKVILLE)

WELCH, LLOYD LEE
Address:18407 LOSTKNIFE CIR #202
City: GAITHERSBURG
State:MD
Zip Code: 20760

Race:WHITE,CAUCASIAN,ASIATIC INDIAN,ARAB
Sex:MHeight:509
Weight:165
DOB:12/1952

Charge Description: DRIVING WITHOUT LICENSE
Location Stopped: LOST KNIFE CIR
Fine: 250
Vehicle Tag: ECG856
State: MD
Vehicle Description: 77PONT03
Disposition InformationPlea:
Disposition: FAILURE TO APPEAR
Disposition Date: 06/21/1979
Sentence Date: 06/21/1979
Sentence Time: Yrs:00Mos:00Days:000

 

[simplifymylife2014]

I lived in that area at the time and just for the sake of facts, it appears that the difference between the two addresses is one building next door in a large apartment complex.

I know that area pretty well-- as I did the volunteer work I do back then in Gaithersburg, MD.

 

[richneil18]

I would remit that this would be ttw1 living here in 1979. I also Know the area very well. The two different address could be a data entry error. Coincidence who knows?

Has Anyone investigated the connection between TTW2 and this child molester Leonard W Kraisel. TTW2 has lived in three of his homes.

 

[danmanhatter]

Public records show that there was a civil lawsuit filed by TTW2 against LWK several weeks back in January 2015. There are not many details, but one might guess they might be related. Anyone who knows how to get more details?

There are also public records supporting that TTW2 may have lived with LWK especially since there are not any other supporting resources showing TTW2 lived elsewhere. LWK is known to have acted as a bail bondsman and mortgage trustee for the Welchs' dating back to the 1970's. It appears LWK had a long-term close relationship with the Welchs'.

It's also public record that LWK filed a civil lawsuit on TTW2's ex-wife. Don't know what that is about either?

 

[richneil18]

LWK was arrested and convicted to 20 yrs. Sex abuse of minor. he abused these minors for 6 months pryor to being Arrested 11/28/12. LE start re-interviewing LLW2. around the same time LWK is going thru preliminary court proceedings.
I think TTW2 are still married. His ex is Etalla based on the info thru the internet.

 

[siriunsun]

Public records show that there was a civil lawsuit filed by TTW2 against LWK several weeks back in January 2015. There are not many details, but one might guess they might be related. Anyone who knows how to get more details?

There are also public records supporting that TTW2 may have lived with LWK especially since there are not any other supporting resources showing TTW2 lived elsewhere. LWK is known to have acted as a bail bondsman and mortgage trustee for the Welchs' dating back to the 1970's. It appears LWK had a long-term close relationship with the Welchs'.

It's also public record that LWK filed a civil lawsuit on TTW2's ex-wife. Don't know what that is about either?

LWK is in jail, now. TTW2 filed suit against him for issues relating to abuse. The part of that whole mess that is a mystery is why LWK's face is not in the sex offender registry.

 

[danmanhatter]

LWK is in jail, now. TTW2 filed suit against him for issues relating to abuse. The part of that whole mess that is a mystery is why LWK's face is not in the sex offender registry.

How confident can we be the suit is related to abuse? The named parties in the lawsuit are highly suggestive, but curious if you have additional info that can be shared?

I'm guessing that the sex offender registry only applies to non-incarcerated criminals - those that are residing in our communities. Richard do you know?

 

[danmanhatter]

LWK was arrested and convicted to 20 yrs. Sex abuse of minor. he abused these minors for 6 months pryor to being Arrested 11/28/12. LE start re-interviewing LLW2. around the same time LWK is going thru preliminary court proceedings.
I think TTW2 are still married. His ex is Etalla based on the info thru the internet.

Very insightful!

 

[Richard]

Here is as link to the Maryland sex offender registry. I am not certain of what all the requirements are regarding registration, but one can sort on this registry in a number of ways to see if a certain person is included, or to see if any registered offenders live in a certain area.

There is a choice of looking for "incarcerated" offenders, but I do not know what that means. I tried to look up some convicted sex offenders who are serving life sentences in the Maryland prison system, and the search comes up empty. So maybe they do not register until they are released?

http://www.dpscs.state.md.us/sorSearch/

 

[richneil18]

I would be very confident LWK abused Welch family members. This would make you think about LWK possible involvement other Welch family members. The cycle of abuse continues.

 

[beachlvr0810]

Does anybody know when TTW1 moved back to Taylor's Mountain?

 

[RichardLewis]

Does anybody know when TTW1 moved back to Taylor's Mountain?

His second wife Carol died around 2003? He sold his home in Germantown, MD in March of 2004. He bought 2800 Murray Hollow Road, Thaxton, VA in March 2006.

 

[siriunsun]

His second wife Carol died around 2003? He sold his home in Germantown, MD in March of 2004. He bought 2800 Murray Hollow Road, Thaxton, VA in March 2006.

I wonder why his former neighbors on the mountain would claim, then, that they do not know the Maryland Welches, and that the Maryland Welches did not own property on the mountain?

 

[simplifymylife2014]

beachlvr0810, would that road be actually on the mountain or just in Thaxton?

 

[richneil18]

She has a great map on her FB site Taylors mountian.