long weekend break: discuss the latest here #114

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  • #801
Look at it this way. Everything that's argued and ruled on in this stage is one less appeal in the Death appeals process.

I'm also taking some perverse pleasure in the fact that it means Kurt had to work over the weekend.
 
  • #802
Oh I'm sure he is and he should be. He's just bloviating smoke as usual. I mean the ENTIRE jury would have to be involved in some kind of misconduct to start this shindig all over again. It would have to be catastrophic for that to even be considered.

I think this is all attempting to disarm Martinez. He knows the most devastating part of the entire trial is coming: the rebuttal case. He's posturing.

No mistrial is coming....this Judge is seriously protecting the record. Juror misconduct/prosecutorial misconduct is all he's got to work with as what's happening in the courtroom is flawless to his murderer client.

Is nurmi. Hoping for a mistrial, to replace Martinez in the second trial? I truly believe so.
Thanks katie cool for the reassurance! Nurmi will negotiate with the devil to win but even the devil finds him annoying.
 
  • #803
As another week of the trial and no doubt more rubbish gets spewed by the DT, I thought I'd post the tribute video from Chris Hughes to remember Travis.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q07NxRGYfSg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q07NxRGYfSg[/ame]
 
  • #804
Defense can't win so they seem to be trying to game the system. Juror misconduct? I wonder what their argument is.

I'm sure we will find out tomorrow. I just feel the DT is wasting tax payers money.
 
  • #805
My memory is fuzzy on this.. the secret message in the magazines she tried to get out of jail.. are we assuming they were for MM or do we know that for sure? It makes more sense to me that they were for DB. JM had to drag little truths from him on the stand, and JM mentions that a representative from the defense attorneys had met with him and he had stated these things in the transcript he has during questioning. I think she was mad about him saying she was testy about the gas cans, telling him she was going to Mesa, the remote control return issues and she wanted him to fix his stories. I get the impression in my mind that DB would lie for her but MM could really care less about her in the grand scheme of things and would not. I think DB is more closer linked to some truths than MM is.
I think you might be right about the secret message being for DB. She does mention her interview and JM did get information from DB that he met with one of the producers about the interview.
 
  • #806
They certainly can talk with each other, just not about the trial. I was a juror on a murder trial and if we couldn't have talked at all, I would have lost my mind!! We would all go to lunch together, etc. and formed some nice bonds.

Oh ok. Thank you!! I assumed that meant they weren't allowed to talk it all. It was the only thing I could think of though that could possibly involve more jurors than there are alternates. I don't see how a juror being "misconducty" (using KCL word LOL) could cause a mistrial. If there's misconduct by one.. excuse them (unless it's one we like!) and move on!
 
  • #807
@Angels_Dwell: Breaking News: Jury questions in the Jodi Arias case has forced Dr Richard Samuels to shut his website down until further evaluation

I took out the informal name tweet had. Didn't want to get in trouble here.


I seen the tweet also, come here to see if anyone was talking about it.

Do we have the questions the jury asked him listed anywhere???
 
  • #808
Went looking for DS...

IN RE DENNIS H.
IN RE DENNIS H.
No. 1 CA-MH 11-0057 SP.
Court of Appeals of Arizona, Division One, Department B.

Filed May 29, 2012.

Thomas C. Horne, Attorney General, Phoenix, By Aubrey Joy Corcoran, Assistant Attorney General, Attorneys for Appellee.
Bruce Peterson, Maricopa County Legal Advocate, Phoenix, By Mary Beth Mitchell, Deputy Legal Advocate and Daniel R. Raynak, Phoenix, Attorneys for Appellant.




THIS DECISION DOES NOT CREATE LEGAL PRECEDENT AND MAY NOT BE CITED EXCEPT AS AUTHORIZED BY APPLICABLE RULES. See Ariz. R. Supreme Court 111(c); ARCAP 28(c); Ariz. R. Crim. P. 31.24
MEMORANDUM DECISION
JOHNSEN, Judge
¶1 Dennis H. appeals the denial of his petition for absolute discharge from the Arizona Community Protection and Treatment Center ("ACPTC"). For the following reasons, we affirm.
FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY
¶2 In 1993, Dennis was convicted of one count of molestation of a child, a Class 2 felony, and sentenced to 15 years' imprisonment. Before his release in 2007, the State filed a petition pursuant to Arizona Revised Statutes ("A.R.S.") section 36-3704 (West 2012) alleging Dennis was a sexually violent person ("SVP") who should be committed to the ACPTC for supervision and treatment.1 Dennis admitted the allegation, and the superior court found him to be an SVP and ordered his commitment.
¶3 In February 2011, Dennis petitioned for absolute discharge from ACPTC, asserting that he was no longer an SVP. During a two-day evidentiary hearing, Dr. Nicole Huggins, a psychologist at the Arizona State Hospital who conducted Dennis's annual examination, testified that Dennis's mental disorders had not changed and he remained a danger to others, likely to reoffend if discharged. Dr. Richard Samuels testified on behalf of Dennis and opined that Dennis's condition had changed, that he was no longer at risk of reoffending and that he should be unconditionally discharged from ACPTC.

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Our esteemed Dr. Samuels opined that a PEDOPHILE's "condition had changed, that he was no longer a risk of reoffending..."

WAS HE CASTRATED? If not, I can't imagine how being a child molester can change. Maybe Dr. Samuels gave him a copy of Your Erroneous Zones?

I am breathing fire right now I'm so pizzed. What a 🤬🤬🤬.:furious:
 
  • #809
Is there a link to the motion? That link just brings me to a generic page.

You have to click the Case History tab, then either put in JA's name or case number.
 
  • #810
  • #811
Are you as surprised as I that these are all popping up on a day the court is officially closed? I don't think there's any way they could hear it today - the whole darn courthouse is closed.????

Which probably means they will use most of tomorrow to deal with it. Another day lost, seems like the DT plan to waste time. Don't they realize they are just delaying the inevitable?
 
  • #812
Defense can't win so they seem to be trying to game the system. Juror misconduct? I wonder what their argument is.

I have no doubt that we'll waste the first hour (or more) tomorrow morning hearing aaaaaalllll about how poor Jodi's rights are being abused by the naughty ice-cream eating juror and how the only proper remedy is to turn her loose and forget all this unpleasant prosecuty stuff.
 
  • #813
If Jodi had an accomplice, she would have put on the baby voice and said they made her do it.

I want to hear from Matt M.
 
  • #814
  • #815
Didn't she tell Martinez "Well, I am single" when he asked her about seeing/grinding Ryan Burns right after leaving the slaughter?

For me that was one of "the" lines of the trial

OMG, yes... that one was a jaw dropper.
 
  • #816
I have no doubt that we'll waste the first hour (or more) tomorrow morning hearing aaaaaalllll about how poor Jodi's rights are being abused by the naughty ice-cream eating juror and how the only proper remedy is to turn her loose and forget all this unpleasant prosecuty stuff.

The DT probably thinks they know which juror is submitting the questions that hint they think JA is guilty. Probably trying to get them thrown off the jury. I am kidding but I think the DT will try anything.
 
  • #817
Didn't she tell Martinez "Well, I am single" when he asked her about seeing/grinding Ryan Burns right after leaving the slaughter?

For me that was one of "the" lines of the trial

She sssssssuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeee did. I was blown away about that.
:jail::jail::jail::jail::jail::jail::jail:
 
  • #818
I'm sure we will find out tomorrow. I just feel the DT is wasting tax payers money.

Was this hearing today? If so, is it in open court or closed door? Anybody there today that might be in the courtroom if it is in open court? I don't want to have to wait until tomorrow to see how low the DT will go.
 
  • #819
Didn't she tell Martinez "Well, I am single" when he asked her about seeing/grinding Ryan Burns right after leaving the slaughter?

For me that was one of "the" lines of the trial

And she will remain "single" for the rest of her life.
That makes me smile! :giggle:
 
  • #820
A tweet from wildabouttrial what tomorrow begins with...

@valaxie No, court resumes tomorrow at 9:15. Grace Wong from InSession takes the stand about the Juan autograph incident.

Oh for crying out loud!

Well, the defense has so little to work with, but you have to credit them with using everything they possibly can.

On the juror misconduct issue -- I cannot remember who said it, maybe during the Jean C. testimony, but there was recently a comment about a couple of jurors talking about the case. When I heard that I thought "uh oh" and wondered if the defense would file a motion. I wish I could remember the context of that comment I heard because I don't know if it was something credible or provable or speculation (due to my fognesia).
 
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