Luka Magotta AKA Eric Newman Trial, Week beginning Oct 13, 2014 - Trial Thread #2

[Kamille]

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Judge is here, jury is here. Montreal police investigator with tech crimes unit Nadine Paoliello back on the stand.#Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 39s40 seconds ago
Judge instructs jury about info provided to police officer during the investigation: hearsay. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 35s36 seconds ago
Judge explaining to jurors what hearsay is. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Doesn't mean the info is proven. Only used to illustrate how the investigation is conducted. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 42s42 seconds ago
At end of trial judge will give examples of information that may be proven or not proven. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 29s30 seconds ago
Continuing with testimony of same police officer, who retrieved so-called murder video #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 56s57 seconds ago
Investigator Paoliello on Facebook accounts: searched Rocco #Magnotta, one profile found in San Diego. Added Luka, 20 results. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 57s57 seconds ago
On YNC website, who uploaded video. Defence objects. #Magnotta

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 1m1 minute ago
And Me Leclair has an objection. Jury leaves the room, minutes after arriving #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Jury has returned.#Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
On YNC site, to see who uploaded murder video: didn't note this. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 24s25 seconds ago
On theYNC site: she did the same thing as with other sites, sending letter asking to pull video, info on who posted, when, etc. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 5m5 minutes ago
Sent to web host Globemedia May 30, reply June 1: yes, video pulled and how the site got the video. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 5m5 minutes ago
Police received email from lawyer who said he represented YNC. Video had been pulled #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 5m5 minutes ago
Judge tells jury not to take info for granted but only used to show how investigation was conducted. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
Jury is now reading the emails police got from YNC lawyer etc #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 18s18 seconds ago
Asked about "TOR", router to validate system and where to go. System works in layers. #Magnotta

amy minsky ‏@amyminsky · 55s55 seconds ago
Paoliello now explaining TOR- the deep web. An untraceable, un-indexed internet. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 58s58 seconds ago
Alan Ford says in email he uploaded the video privately. Witness says publicly everyone can search for it. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 30s31 seconds ago
When uploaded privately, you can't find it with search terms. Witness says only people who can, are the ones with the link. #Magnotta

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 55s56 seconds ago
Officer explains how a video can be uploaded privately on Youtube, away from search engines #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 58s58 seconds ago
To flag or tag a video on YouTube, means to signal something that is obscene or non conform with the rules. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 55s55 seconds ago
Witness says video on YNC, same one as on others. #Magnotta

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 28s29 seconds ago
SHe explains that the video was also visible on another, now defunct web site. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 31s31 seconds ago
Witness got access to video on YouTube, got screenshot, entered into evidence. #Magnotta

Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 1m1 minute ago
Said she was able to view the video on YNC and it was the exact same one as appeared on the two other sites she discussed earlier. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 43s43 seconds ago
When get screen shot? June 1, 1 pm. Followed link, got toYouTube page, saw video. #Magnotta

amy minsky ‏@amyminsky · 44s45 seconds ago
The screen grab shows there were five views, video was uploaded by Alan Williams on May 25, 2012. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 28s28 seconds ago
Witness asked YNC to pull the video and asked Google also to yank it from YouTube, also who was behind Alan Williams account. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 32s33 seconds ago
Don't know if username is real name of person, can use any name. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 48s49 seconds ago
Reply few days later (June 4). Requested June 1, 2012. Confirms video yanked. No reply on account or anything else. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 43s43 seconds ago
June 5: Google legal dept can't give info about posting of video or account, because didn't feel it was urgent enough. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 57s58 seconds ago
Google legal dept wanted legal doc to do all this. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Witness says YouTube video was longer, 10 min 49 secs. But still the rest was the same. Doesn't know what the 27 xtra secs were. #Magnotta

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 1m1 minute ago
Paoliello saw the video on the 3 web sites where it was uploaded, and saw it on Youtube, where it was privately shared #Magnotta

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 35s35 seconds ago
Another site, located in Edmonton, was problematic because owner refused to cooperate. It lead to separate inquiry #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Bestgore not explored any more thoroughly. Web owner in Edmonton. Crown says moving on to video. #Magnotta

Justin Hayward ‏@HaywardCBC · 1m1 minute ago
They are going to show the #magnotta video now.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Crown advises jury it's the famous video as mentioned in his opening arguments. #Magnotta

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 1m1 minute ago
We're now told we'll be watching the video. Some colleagues leaving the room. #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

******WARNING... Extremely graphic descriptions of video********

Domenic Fazioli ‏@DomenicFazioli · 30s30 seconds ago
Jury is now seeing murder video. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Video begins. New Order's Bizarre Love Triangle playing. Man lying naked on bed, tied up. White cloth covering face. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Person in hoodie seen hitting or stabbing man on bed. Back to us. #Magnotta

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 3m3 minutes ago
Jury watching carefully #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Cut off Head of victim being manipulated. Hand seen slicing left arm off. #Magnotta

amy minsky ‏@amyminsky · 1m1 minute ago
People are leaving the overflow room. As the video plays for the court. #Magnotta

Domenic Fazioli ‏@DomenicFazioli · 2m2 minutes ago
One of the jurors seems uncomfortable watching murder video. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago
Hand with knife cutting into victim's back. Hand seen holding arm body part, moving it up and down. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 56s56 seconds ago
Body of victim seen with right leg cut off, no head. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago
Person in black hoodie seen having intercourse with body. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago
Hands with knife and fork seen slicing away at buttocks of victim. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago
Hands with knife and fork seen slicing away skin from buttocks of victim. Skin placed on fork. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago
Music has since stopped. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago
Hand holding bottle, using it to sodomize the legless body. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago
Still of arm body part in freezer. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago
Close up of #Junlin head cut off. #Magnotta

Justin Hayward ‏@HaywardCBC · 2m2 minutes ago
The jury is staring silently at the screens in the room. Here in the overflow room , there some gagging noises. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
Judge: we will take the afternoon break now. Constables: everyone ok now? #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Court constable asks people in overflow room if everyone is ok. Affirmative. #Magnotta

Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 3m3 minutes ago
Just finished watching the video. Judge takes a break. Be back at 3:20. #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

amy minsky ‏@amyminsky · 4m4 minutes ago
Video wraps up, judge announces afternoon break. That was the version that made the rounds online, not the longer, uncut version. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Correction: the song is True Faith, not Bizarre Love Triangle by New Order. #Magnotta

Domenic Fazioli ‏@DomenicFazioli · 57s57 seconds ago
A few jury members stared at Luka #Magnotta in prisoner's box as they left courtroom.

Rosie DiManno ‏@RDiManno · 3m3 minutes ago
#magnotta Just watched murder video at Magnotta trial. Worse than expected, worse than imagined. Unspeakable.

 

[Kamille]

Link to the song playing. True Faith by New Order Song from American Psycho.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnzcWEo_EFg

 

[Kamille]

Surprisingly Sue Montgomery got even a little more graphic and supplied a little more info for those who can handle the tweets....

https://twitter.com/MontgomerySue?lang=en

 

[Kamille]

Okay I'll be first. This man must never see the light of day outside among us....ever.

 

[Kamille]

I've got to run out for a bit. I'll catch up on the rest of the day's tweets later unless someone else wants to post them up.

 

[BorgQueen]

I noticed that the tweets didn't mention that dog that was (allegedly) in the video? (ETA: Just noticed that Sue Montgomery did mention it)

Thanks again for posting the tweets!


Oh, what the heck, Google?! Not urgent? SERIOUSLY?! This company is known for violating the privacy of everybody who uses their services (amongst other privacy invasions), and they refused to assist with a murder investigation? Wow.

 

[Rayemonde]

JL's poor family. It must be awful for them to know that the video is still floating around on the internet, and people are still watching it

 

[Rayemonde]

Sue Montgomery mentions the dog in her tweets.

 

[BorgQueen]

I noticed after I made that last post. Thanks.
She seems to be the most thorough.

 

[Little Jedi]

Surprisingly Sue Montgomery got even a little more graphic and supplied a little more info for those who can handle the tweets....

https://twitter.com/MontgomerySue?lang=en

I've gone to ^^ link but I can't understand what's being 'tweeted' ??

Christina McGrath @Christina5230 20m
@MontgomerySue @francisco_siles Did #magnotta watch ?

suemontgomery
@MontgomerySue

@Christina5230 @francisco_siles he kept his head down

I think witness being cross-examined by Leclair

OK I've found these via 'Calgary Sun'

~ Hope I do this right :lol: ~

suemontgomery
@MontgomerySue
Cross by defence lawyer Luc Leclair #Magnotta


8:36 PM

suemontgomery
@MontgomerySue
Leclair asking about British program called Queer as Folk. Witness never heard of it #Magnotta


8:37 PM

suemontgomery
@MontgomerySue
Witness saw video on four different sites, she says #Magnotta


8:48 PM

suemontgomery
@MontgomerySue
On YNC site video called Sick One Ice Pick, Paoliello says #Magnotta


8:53 PM

suemontgomery
@MontgomerySue
Leclair asking witness several technical questions about the internet, like what IP means #Magnotta


8:57 PM

suemontgomery
@MontgomerySue
That's the end of this witness and the end of this day. See you tomorrow at 9:30 #Magnotta

 

[BorgQueen]

Hm. So he kept his head down, eh? He should have been instructed to watch it. Not so he can re-live his glory, but so his body language could be read. He didn't look because his body language would show that he enjoyed it then and still does now.

 

[Kamille]

Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 48m48 minutes ago
Break time has been over for some time but defence needed time to talk to his client. We'll continue in a few mins. #Magnotta

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 48m48 minutes ago
Jury is back. Paoliello is back on the stand #MAgnotta

amy minsky ‏@amyminsky · 48m48 minutes ago
Jury is back. Bouthillier asks a few more questions of Paoliello. She notes the song playing during the video is a New Order song. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 47m47 minutes ago
#Magnotta hunched over, looking at floor.

amy minsky ‏@amyminsky · 47m47 minutes ago
Paoliello is now under cross-examination. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 46m46 minutes ago
Defence lawyer Luc Leclair asks about song and if it's from 1985. Shows witness report analysis of song: 1983-1987. #Magnotta

amy minsky ‏@amyminsky · 46m46 minutes ago
Leclair shows Paoliello his computer, notes the year of the New Order song. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 45m45 minutes ago
Witness saw video on heaven666, YNC, bestgore and the longer one on YouTube. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 45m45 minutes ago
At first sight, same video but can't tell difference with longer one or what was missing. No colleague did such analysis. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 44m44 minutes ago
Why show heaven66 version? It was the first one she saw and other copies on police computer, she didn't have them. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 43m43 minutes ago
Computer crashed. Dec 2012. Had heaven666 on police server, other copies on laptop. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 26m26 minutes ago
Crown wants to start with the next witness tomorrow morning. Jury dismissed. #Magnotta

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I believe the music was actually put into the video when it was edited.

Well, now we have the next Oscar B. DeMille.

:shame:

 

[Kamille]

Well at least Leclair didn't make them replay the video and go through it frame by frame. :notgood:

 

[Little Jedi]

Here's the link for the 'Tweets' from Sue Montgomery

*This does include the very graphic ones*

http://www2.canada.com/calgaryherald/iphone/news/latest/story.html?id=10294691

ETA ~ Oops it's the 'Calgary Herald' ~ Sorry :blushing:

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Hm. So he kept his head down, eh? He should have been instructed to watch it. Not so he can re-live his glory, but so his body language could be read. He didn't look because his body language would show that he enjoyed it then and still does now.

Keeping one's head down - isn't that a sign of guilt?

 

[Kamille]

I noticed after I made that last post. Thanks.
She seems to be the most thorough.

Yes...for some reason her tweets weren't coming up in the general hashtag with the others. Sometimes that happens and I have no idea why. She is using the same hashtag. :waitasec: