Luka Magotta AKA Eric Newman Trial, Week beginning Oct 13, 2014 - Trial Thread #2

[No_Stone_Unturned]

HERE'S THE EX-PRIME MINISTER'S SON:

http://www.cp24.com/news/magnotta-s...f-ex-pm-jean-chretien-1.2058437#ixzz3GQ4WFtiC

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

When anyone involves the GOVERNMENT, isn't that a huge crime in and of itself? You and I get reprimanded if we accidentally dial 911. Never mind getting in touch with LE GOUVERNEMENT!!

:doh:

 

[Little Jedi]

Editing again, to avoid spamming: I am trying to organise some tweets. It isn't working out very well. I totally suck at this.

Also, I feel bad for Logan, being sucked into yet another murder case, by association. I'd be pretty irritated. Leclair's ridiculous questions must have made it even more irritating.

:floorlaugh: Me Too !

Please read from bottom upwards :doh:

Says Karla Homolka is married to Thierry Bordelais - doesn't know if that is publicly known. #Magnotta
by Michele Mandel via twitter 4:52 PM

Valentini confirms her sister was accomplice of killer Paul Bernardo and was sent to jail for 12 years. She now lives in Quebec #Magnotta
by Michele Mandel via twitter 4:51 PM

"That's my address and my name," she says. #Magnotta She confirms Karla Homolka's sister
by Michele Mandel via twitter 4:50 PM

She didn't send package to False Creek Elementary school containing Lin's body part in May 2012 #Magnotta
by Michele Mandel via twitter 4:50 PM

She was born Lori Homolka and changed name in 1996 #Magnotta
by Michele Mandel via twitter 4:49 PM

* Be back with link *

 

[Little Jedi]

:gaah:

Please read from bottom upwards :doh:

00 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
"It's always floating around, it's on different websites, once it's there, you can't erase it...it's public information." #Magnotta


4:59 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
"No, everybody knows" I'm Karla Homolka's sister, she says. #Magnotta


4:59 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
Not a known fact that her name has been changed to Logan Valentini? defence asks.


4:58 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
Valentini says it was all over the media, but not her name. Didn't get any calls from press about it. #Magnotta


4:57 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
She works at Zehrs as a cashier and at Bass Pro #Magnotta


4:56 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
Valentini says "I was stunned, didn't know why I would be dragged into something again that had nothing to do with me?" #Magnotta


4:55 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
They said it would be a high profile case, Valentini went on Internet and saw #Magnotta case


4:55 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
Valentini got call from Mtrl police 2 years ago asking if she sent a pkg. Gave her no more details. #Magnotta


4:54 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
Valentini says Karla looks like her, also blonde #Magnotta


4:53 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
Valentini tells defence that she's never met #Magnotta She says she's seen Karla recently


4:52 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
Valentini is her married name. Crown has no more questions for Karla Homolka's sister. #Magnotta

 

[Little Jedi]

:tantrum:
Please read from bottom upwards :doh:

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
Witness is excused. #Magnotta jury is done for the week. Back Monday.


5:29 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
#Magnotta booked flight through Expedia at 4:37 p.m. May 25,2012, same day as murder, for $1080


5:23 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
#Magnotta supposed to return June 1, 2012 but was no show for flight.


5:22 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
He flew under his own name, one suitcase. #Magnotta


5:17 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
#Magnotta jury being shown passenger info for flight he took May 26, 2012. Not sure why this is necessary, no one disputing he fled to Paris


5:12 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
Next witness Steve Fredette (sp?) from Air Transat, airline #Magnotta took from Mtrl to Paris after slaying.


5:11 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
Ouch. Crown knuckles wrapped by judge in #Magnotta trial


5:11 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
#Magnotta jury was excused for another legal argument. Now back. Judge telling them Crown didn't inform defence @ upcoming witness


5:05 PM

Colinfreeze
@Colinfreeze
Can't imagine what it would've been like to be Holmolka's sister, live through that, then be sucked into Magnotta case. Follow @MandelSun ...
retweeted by MandelSun


5:04 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
Homolka's sister irritated #Magnotta dragged her into yet another murder case. "I just wanted to be able to live my life privately.".


5:01 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
Valentini's testimony is done. #Magnotta


5:01 PM

Michele Mandel
@MandelSun
Homolka's sister said she changed name because she didn't want to be associated with something she had no part in. #Magnotta

* Me no likely 'Twitter' *

~ 'Live Tweets' from Toronto Sun ~

http://live.torontosun.com/Event/Luka_Magnotta_trial_Oct_17_2014_2

 

[Kamille]

Sorry...my internet went down during that last break and just came up now. It will be intermittent all day apparently but I'll try to get the tweets posted. Lori Holmoka? I was only half kidding. LOL I guess they didn't need to call Karla because Renee Bordelais is a made up name. Looks like he was just digging for French names to me. :giggle:

 

[Kamille]

suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

Jury is back. Next witness, testifying by video link is Logan Valantini #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

Her name at birth was Lori Homolka. Changed her name in 1996. Did not send a package to Vancouver in 2012, she says #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

Return address on package sent to False Creek Elementary school is L. Valentini in Ste Catherines, Ont #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

She's the sister of Karla Homolka who was convicted with Paul Bernardo. K Homolka living in Quebec, she says #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

Karla Homolka is married to Thierry Bordelais, Homolka's sister tells court #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

Valentini is her married name. Cross examination by defence Luc Leclair #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

Valentini says she has seen her sister recently. Doesn't know #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

Does your sister look like you? "I assume so, yes," witness says #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

When do you find out about this package? Two years ago got call from police asking if I'd sent package#Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

Witness did research on internet and saw that these packages were sent and I assumed that's what police were talking about #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

Valentini works at Bass Pro and works as cashier at Zehrs. Testifying from Kitchener #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

Witness was stunned and wondered why she'd be dragged into something again that had nothing to do with her #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

False Creek Elementary school means nothing to her. #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

Did police ever tell you what it was about? I think they did a few months ago, but I already knew from the media, she says #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

My name wasn't in the media though. Never got any calls from the media about this, Valentini says #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

Valentini is my married name and Logan is one I picked, she says. Everyone knows that I'm Karla Homolka's sister. #Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

It's always floating around. It's on tons of sites. Once it's there, you can't get rid of it#Magnotta


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

I just wanted to be able to live my life privately and free. I didn't want to get a bad rap for something I didn't have anything to do with


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 1h 1 hour ago

That's the end of this testimony #Magnotta

 

[Little Jedi]

Now could someone fill me in on what happened ^^ as I haven't managed to actually read them yet ~ :biggrin:

Apologies if any graphic or inappropriate content ~ Haven't mastered the knack of reading & posting at the same time yet !

 

[Kamille]

And once again Leclair asks really stupid questions. There is no need for him to cross examine every single witness that gets up there to re-iterate what they've already told the prosecution and to delve into their personal lives...just because.

It's like a vendetta against every witness. Does Lori Homolka need for people to know that she works at Zehrs and Bass Pro in Kitchener? She's been through enough. She had to change her name for cripes sake. Dragging that out of her is just mean spirited and has nothing to do with the case IMO.

 

[Kamille]

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Next witness, Steve Fradette (?). Works for corporate security for Air Transat. #Magnotta

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 1h1 hour ago
Objection from Defence. Jury out. Again. #Magnotta

Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 1h1 hour ago
Jury is now being brought back in. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Judge tells jury why they're asked to leave while they debate.Explains crown didn't advise defence about upcoming witness. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Crown asks Steve Fradette about passenger certificates about flight on May 26, 2012. #Magnotta

Amanda Kelly ‏@AKellyGlobal · 1h1 hour ago
Crown submits document regarding Air Transat Flight 610 that #Magnotta took on May 26, 2012

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
1st document: certificate shows passengers, 337 on flight. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
2nd doc shows who's on standby for flight. 3rd doc shows who didn't show. #Magnotta

Michele Mandel ‏@MandelSun · 1h1 hour ago
#Magnotta jury being shown passenger info for flight he took May 26, 2012. Not sure why this is necessary, no one disputing he fled to Paris

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Witness says doc shows where flight is going, what class flight, who's flying 1st class, economy. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Witness points out name of passenger number 148 #Magnotta.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Sat in seat 33A, shows he used passport at counter. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1h1 hour ago
Had valid passport and name corresponded with name on ticket. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Witness says doc shows #Magnotta had one suitcase.

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 1h1 hour ago
#Magnotta sat in seat 33A on that Air-Transat flight to Paris

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1h1 hour ago
337 passengers, plus four infants on the flight. arrived in Paris May 27, 2012 #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Witness says doc shows arrival in Paris is May 27. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Witness says doc shows when reservation made, when return flight is even if passenger not on flight. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1h1 hour ago
#Magnotta sat in economy; reserved May 25, 2012. Departing May 26, return June 1. He was no-show for return flight

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Witness says doc shows #Magnotta booked flight at 4:37 pm May 25, 2012.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Doc shows #Magnotta booked via Expedia but can't tell if by credit card.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Witness says doc shows cost of ticket: $1080.50. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Doc shows #Magnotta had window seat.

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1h1 hour ago
He sat in 37A, two other people were in his row of seats #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Last doc: recent, what happened at airline counter since reception of reservation until takeoff. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1h1 hour ago
Doc shows passport info: Canadian, birthdate. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 60m60 minutes ago
Info about reservation? Shows when computer got the reservation in the system. Crown done. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 59m59 minutes ago
Leclair cross examining Fradette now. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 59m59 minutes ago
Defence's turn. Witness says he is assistant to a witness who couldn't testify. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 55m55 minutes ago
When scan passport for 1st time, their system makes a match with no flight security watch list. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 54m54 minutes ago
So certain #Magnotta flying with his Canadian passport with all pertinent personal info? Yes. Defence done.

Steven Chmielash ‏@s_chmielash · 54m54 minutes ago
When #Magnotta entered the airport for first time, his passport was scanned and system checks to see if person is on security watch list.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 53m53 minutes ago
Jury is dismissed for the day, adjourned until Monday. #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

Wow...Leclair actually kept it short and sweet with that last witness. He must have been hungry since it was probably past lunch time. And I really wanted to know what colour underwear he was wearing on the witness stand too. :floorlaugh:

MOO

 

[Little Jedi]

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM 34 secs34 seconds ago
Ça reprend à #Magnotta. Témoin 21 : Logan Valentini, par vidéo-conférence.

Rosie DiManno ‏@RDiManno 55 secs55 seconds ago
#magnotta Now testifying: Lori Valentini, nee Lori Homolka, sister of Karla Homolka, notorious school girl killer with husband Paul Bernardo

:crazy: I thought you were kidding !

Especially after Kamilles earlier comment

* & Your Avatar lol *

 

[Kamille]

Just wanted to post this twitter exchange that came up in the feed for those wondering how the Toronto lawyer knew where to send the police to look for the head.

@MontgomerySue Do you know if they will call atty who faxed loc of head as witness? Wonder where he got the info... #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1h1 hour ago
@worddeuce I don't know

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1h1 hour ago
@worddeuce and I know where he got info but I can't say because the jury doesn't know. but once they start delibs, I can say



So she's saying that she doesn't know if they will call the attorney who sent the email to find out where he got the info but she knows and will post about it, if the jury is never told about it, during their deliberations.

 

[Kamille]

Any reason why the prosecution asked LV dumb questions too? Like making her confirm that Karla and Thierry are now living in Quebec? Although I do understand them asking about Karla's married name because of the Renee Bordelais sender on two of the packages. Or asking if she looked like her sister or that she's seen her recently. What does that have to do with Luka Magnotta putting her name and address as the sender on a package with a body part in it? And then Leclair reiterating again and going further.

SMH :notgood:

 

[Kamille]

I'm also a little confused about the sending of the packages. There were 4 packages. But while doing the tweets yesterday, they kept talking about two boxes that were seen in the Jean Coutu postal outlet. Did he only send 2 from there? Am I missing something?

:waitasec:

 

[Kamille]

Well it's a sad day when the sister of a notorious killer takes top headlines over the son of a PM.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/ca...rom-son-of-ex-pm-jean-chretien-279568872.html

 

[Little Jedi]

Any reason why the prosecution asked LV dumb questions too? * Like making her confirm that Karla and Thierry are now living in Quebec?* Although I do understand them asking about Karla's married name because of the Renee Bordelais sender on two of the packages. Or asking if she looked like her sister or that she's seen her recently. What does that have to do with Luka Magnotta putting her name and address as the sender on a package with a body part in it? And then Leclair reiterating again and going further.

SMH :notgood:

Poor Lori !

What's she ever done to deserve all this ?

Homolka's sister irritated #Magnotta dragged her into yet another murder case.

"I just wanted to be able to live my life privately."

* I bet we can all guess why this part was brought up ........Hmmm *

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

THAT POOR JURY:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/luka-magnotta-trial-jury-watches-infamous-video-1.2800822

 

[Little Jedi]

Just wanted to post this twitter exchange that came up in the feed for those wondering how the Toronto lawyer knew where to send the police to look for the head.

@MontgomerySue Do you know if they will call atty who faxed loc of head as witness? Wonder where he got the info... #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1h1 hour ago
@worddeuce I don't know

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1h1 hour ago
@worddView attachment 61495euce and I know where he got info but I can't say because the jury doesn't know. but once they start delibs, I can say

So she's saying that she doesn't know if they will call the attorney who sent the email to find out where he got the info but she knows and will post about it, if the jury is never told about it, during their deliberations.

 

[Little Jedi]

Well it's a sad day when the sister of a notorious killer takes top headlines over the son of a PM.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/ca...rom-son-of-ex-pm-jean-chretien-279568872.html

What's the betting media interest in the trial increases somewhat now ?

" Luka Rocco Magnotta's murder trial hears from Karla Homolka's sister. "