Luka Magotta AKA Eric Newman Trial, Week Nov 20, 2014 - Trial Thread #4

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Oh praise God someone is talking (well, trying to speak about) about the kill vid.

:scared:

 

[Kamille]

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 2m2 minutes ago
Même si #Magnotta a souffert de schizophrénie, il y a peu d'exemples montrant que ça l'empêchait de faire ce qu'il voulait-Chamberland

Translation: Although #Magnotta suffered from schizophrenia, there are few examples showing that it prevented him from doing what he wanted - Chamberland

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 2m2 minutes ago
Donc, "la schizophrénie, si elle est là, elle semble avoir peu d'impact sur sa vie" ajoute Chamberland #Magnotta

Translation: So "schizophrenia, if it is there, it seems to have little impact on his life," says Chamberland #Magnotta

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 2m2 minutes ago
Il n'y a rien qui nous laisse croire que #Magnotta ne savait pas ce qu'il faisait le soir du meutre, conclut Chamberland

Translation: Nothing leads us to believe that #Magnotta did not know what he was doing on the night of murder , says Chamberland

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 3m3 minutes ago
#Magnotta savait que tuer #JunLin était mal, même si on considère qu'il était malade, conclut le psy. Contre-interrogatoire à venir.

Translation: #Magnotta knew that killing #JunLin was wrong, even if we consider that he was ill, concluded the psychiatrist. Cross examination to come.

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 3m3 minutes ago
Pause matinale au procès #Magnotta. La Couronne croit en avoir terminé avec le Dr Chamberland.

Translation: #Magnotta morning break at trial. Crown believes they are finished with Dr. Chamberland

salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 4m4 minutes ago
Chamberland ends by saying even if #Magnotta has schizophrenia, there are no examples that suggest accused did not know crime was wrong.

Morning break

 

[Kamille]

So how long do you think LeClair will drag out this cross examination? End of the week? He'll go over every doctor report once again with Chamberland to make sure that's the last testimony the jury hears? Making sure the jury does not get this case to deliberate until sometime next week at the earliest? :notgood:

MOO

 

[Kamille]

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 4m4 minutes ago
Procès #Magnotta reprend. La Couronne n'a plus de questions pour Dr Chamberland. Il sera maintenant contre-interrogé.

Translation: #Magnotta Trial resumes. The Crown has no further questions for Dr. Chamberland . He will now be cross examined

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 4m4 minutes ago
Defence lawyer Luc Leclair is now cross examining Crown's expert, Gilles Chamberland. #Magnotta

salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 5m5 minutes ago
Crown has no more questions for Dr. Chamberland. Defence starts cross-examination of the witness. #Magnotta

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 3m3 minutes ago
Défense veut faire jouer extrait radio de mai 2012 relatant l'histoire de #Magnotta. Couronne s'objecte. Hors jury.

Translation: Defense wants to play radio show from May 2012 telling the story of #Magnotta . Crown objected . Out jury.

Mathieu Belhumeur ‏@mbelhumeurTVA · 5m5 minutes ago
Me Leclair commence à faire jouer un extrait d'une émission de radio en salle d'audience. Objection de la couronne. Hors jury. #Magnotta

Translation: Leclair begin to play an excerpt from a radio show in the courtroom . Objection of the crown. Out jury. #Magnotta

christianedesjardins ‏@chridesjardins · 2m2 minutes ago
#Magnotta. Me Leclair fait jouer enregistrement d'animateur René-Homier Roy qui parle de découverte du corps de Lin Jun en mai 12.

Translation: #Magnotta . Mr. Leclair plays recording René Roy Homier facilitator who talks about finding the body of Lin Jun in May 12 .

 

[Kamille]

I think this is the radio show that Rayemonde mentioned when Chamberland first took the stand?

 

[Kamille]

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 4m4 minutes ago
Jury de retour. Défense fait entendre une entrevue accordée par le Dr Chamberland à René Homier-Roy le 31 mai 2012 #Magnotta

Translation: Jury returns. Defence heard an interview by Dr. Chamberland and René Homier-Roy May 31, 2012 #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 4m4 minutes ago
We're listening to radio interview Chamberland gave after the discovery of Lin Jun's body in May 2012. #Magnotta

salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 4m4 minutes ago
Defence plays interview Chamberland gave to Radio-Canada's morning show on May 31, 2012. Police were searching for suspect - #Magnotta.

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 4m4 minutes ago
Chamberland said the case was too calculated and methodically to be committed by someone who is mentally ill. #Magnotta

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 4m4 minutes ago
"On n'a aucun indice que cet individu-là à une maladie", dit Chamberland dans l'entrevue. "Intrinsèque dans sa personnalité" #Magnotta

Translation: We have no clue that this individual has a disease," says Chamberland in the interview. "Inherent in his personality" #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 4m4 minutes ago
Impossible to watch the #Magnotta video without being marked by it, Chamberland said in 2012 interview

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 4m4 minutes ago
#Magnotta "triomphe encore plus avec chaque personne qu'il réussit à affecter" avec sa vidéo, dit Chamberland

Translation: #Magnotta "triumphs even more with every person he manages to affect" with his video says Chamberland

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 4m4 minutes ago
Dans entrevue, Chamberland dit que #Magnotta a fait une "mise en scène", qu'il est "triomphant".

Translation: In the interview, Chamberland said #Magnotta made ​​a "staging" and is "triumphant"

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 6m6 minutes ago
Chamberland told interviewer in May 2012 that he hadn't evaluated #Magnotta. He said he would reoffend

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 5m5 minutes ago
Le risque de récidive est élevé? "Pour moi, c'est évident", répond Chamberland dans l'entrevue. #Magnotta

Translation: The risk of recurrence is high? "For me, it's obvious " answers Chamberland in the interview. #Magnotta

salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 6m6 minutes ago
In 2012 interview, Chamberland says killing too planned, methodical to be committed by someone with an illness.Says #Magnotta = 'triumphant'

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 5m5 minutes ago
Chamberland parle aussi dans l'entrevue du risque "d'escalade", maintenant que #Magnotta "a goûté à ça"

Translation: Chamberland also talks in the interview of risk "escalading" , now that #Magnotta "tasted it"

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 4m4 minutes ago
HomierRoy note références à Basic Instinct et American Psycho. De tels films peuvent inspirer certaines personnes, dit Chamberland #Magnotta

Translation: HomierRoy notes references to Basic Instinct and American Psycho. Such films can inspire some people, says Chamberland #Magnotta

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 4m4 minutes ago
"Absolument rien dans ce que j'ai vu à date" qui laisse penser à une maladie, conclut Chamberland dans entrevue #Magnotta

Translation: Absolutely nothing that I saw to date suggests a disease , concludes Chamberland in interview #Magnotta

salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 3m3 minutes ago
Chamberland, in 2012 interview, says clear to him with info available that #Magnotta, if caught, can't claim he's not criminally responsible

salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 2m2 minutes ago
Chamberland says was talking about info available to him, & stated he hadn't examined #Magnotta in the 20 or so interviews he did @ the time

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
In the 2012 radio interview, Chamberland said whoever was responsible for Lin Jun's death cldn't be fnd not criminally resp #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

Could the Crown not find one other doctor who did not go all over the airwaves before LM was even caught with his "opinion"?

This looks so bad. Everything Chamberland said in the trial, he already said within days of the murder. :gaah:

MOO

 

[Rayemonde]

I think this is the radio show that Rayemonde mentioned when Chamberland first took the stand?

Must be. Thanks for doing the tweets, guys.
Chamberland made some very good points there at the end of the Crown's examination :jail:

 

[Rayemonde]

20 interviews?! Oh dear, oh dear

 

[Kamille]

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 3m3 minutes ago
Now looking at 2012 article in Soleil which quotes Chamberland calling #Magnotta explosive cocktail of personality disorders

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 3m3 minutes ago
Défense avance que Chamberland était déjà d'avis que #Magnotta souffrait de troubles de la personnalité à l'époque

Translation: Defence argues that Chamberland already believed #Magnotta was suffering from a personality disorder at the time

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 4m4 minutes ago
Dans l'article du Soleil, Chamberland note qu'on ne peut être sûr de rien tant que #Magnotta n'a pas été évalué

Translation: In the Sun article, Chamberland notes that you can not be sure of anything as #Magnotta has not been evaluated

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 4m4 minutes ago
"Pour moi, ça penchait beaucoup plus pour un trouble de la personnalité" dit Chamberland. Avec l'info que j'avais #Magnotta

Translation: For me, it leaned much more towards a personality disorder ," says Chamberland . With the info I had available#Magnotta

christianedesjardins ‏@chridesjardins · 3m3 minutes ago
Dr Chamberland parlait de mise en scène crime horrible, en juin 2012. Vous devriez pas en tant que professionnel, dit Me Leclair. #Magnotta

Translation: Dr. Chamberland spoke of horrible crime scene staging in June 2012. You should not as a professional , says Mr. Leclair. #Magnotta

christianedesjardins ‏@chridesjardins · 4m4 minutes ago
#Dr Chamberland pas d'accord avec Me Leclair. Il peut donner son opinion. #Magnotta

Translation: Dr Chamberland does not agree with Mr Leclair . He can give his opinion. #Magnotta

christianedesjardins ‏@chridesjardins · 4m4 minutes ago
Dr Chamberland trouvait que c'était très organisé, manière de monter la vidéo et l'éditer. #Magnotta

Translation: Dr. Chamberland thought it was very organized, how to upload the video and edit it. #Magnotta

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 5m5 minutes ago
Au Soleil, Chamberland disait que #Magnotta avait léché son image dans sa vidéo "pour maximiser son impact". N'a pas changé d'avis depuis.

Translation: In the Sun, Chamberland said that #Magnotta had licked his image in his video "to maximize its impact." Has not changed his mind since

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 6m6 minutes ago
Jury se retire après objection de la Couronne, mécontente que la défense exhibe un élément sans l'avoir annoncé #Magnotta

Translation: Jury retires after objections from the Crown, unhappy that the defense shows off an item without having informed them #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 8m8 minutes ago
Jury stepping out while lawyers discuss legal issues. #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

20 interviews?! Oh dear, oh dear

I know!! WTH were the prosecution thinking using this guy?!? :gaah:

Now we've got days of the defense bringing out all of the interviews he did and showing that he had a decided bias right from the beginning. As did a lot of people who were familiar with LM's presence on the internet. But it doesn't look very professional for a doctor who then went on to become the main witness in the Crown's case.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 35s36 seconds ago
Jury is back in #magnotta

christianedesjardins ‏@chridesjardins · 29s30 seconds ago
Une personne totalement psychotique peut agir de façon linéaire (avec but précis.) OUi, dit Dr Chamberland. #Magnotta.

Translation: Can a person be completely psychotic linearly (with purpose.) Yes says Dr. Chamberland . #Magnotta

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 2m2 minutes ago
Le Dr Chamberland est d'accord avec l'affirmation voulant qu'on peut être psychotique et agir avec un but précis. #Magnotta

Translation: Dr. Chamberland agreed with the assertion that one can be psychotic and act with a purpose. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 29s29 seconds ago
Psychotic people could commit a murder driven by their hallucinations, Chamberland agrees #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 26s27 seconds ago
Lunch break in #Magnotta

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

"IN TOUCH WITH REALITY" (a good summary):

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/magnotta-in-touch-with-reality-during-murder-crown-witness-1.2128951

 

[Kamille]

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 5m5 minutes ago
We’re back in #magnotta where Leclair continues his cross examination of psych Chamberland.

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 5m5 minutes ago
Chamberland interrogé au sujet d'une entrevue qu'il a accordée à @fdaudens de Radio-Canada. #Magnotta

Translation: Chamberland questioned about an interview he gave to @fdaudens at Radio-Canada. #Magnotta

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 5m5 minutes ago
Chamberland y disait qu'il était aussi difficile de changer la personnalité de quelqu'un que modifier la forme d'un arbre mature #Magnotta

Translation: Chamberland said that it was as difficult to change someone's personality as to change the shape of a mature tree #Magnotta

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 4m4 minutes ago
La défense suggère que le psy avait son idée de faite sur #Magnotta avant même la confection du rapport. Faux, dit le témoin.

Translation: The defense suggested that the psychiatrist had made ​​on his idea of ​​#Magnotta before making the report. Wrong, says the witness

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 5m5 minutes ago
Chamberland dément cependant que son idée était faite au sujet de #Magnotta. Il dit qu'il s'attendait à pouvoir le rencontrer

Translation: Chamberland however denies that his mind was made about #Magnotta . He said he expected to meet him

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 6m6 minutes ago
La défense montre au Dr Chamberland un rapport qu'il avait fait en 2002. 15 pages. #Magnotta

Translation: The defense shows Dr. Chamberland a report he had done in 2002. 15 pages. #Magnotta

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 4m4 minutes ago
Le Dr Chamberland ne se souvient pas s'il a lu les dossiers médicaux avant d'écrire son rapport de 8 pages 1/2 sur #Magnotta

Translation: Dr. Chamberland does not remember if he has read the medical records before writing his report of 81/2 pages on #Magnotta

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 3m3 minutes ago
Chamberland admet qu'il n'a pas lu in extensio tous les dossiers médicaux de #Magnotta avant d'écrire son rapport

Translation: Chamberland admits he has not read in detail all medical records of #Magnotta before writing his report

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 3m3 minutes ago
Le Dr Chamberland ne croyait pas bon de lire tout le dossier médical de #Magnotta. Les résumés des autres psy suffisant, dit-il.

Translation: Dr. Chamberland did not feel good about reading all the medical record #Magnotta . Summaries of other psychs sufficient, he said.

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 1m1 minute ago
Chamberland est d'avis que tout n'est pas pertinent dans ces rapports médicaux. Des notes de labo par exemple #Magnotta

Translation: Chamberland believes that all is not relevant in the medical reports. Lab notes for example #Magnotta

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 1m1 minute ago
Mon travail consiste "à donner mon opinion sur les expertises de la défense", se défend Chamberland. #Magnotta

Translation: My job is "to give my opinion on the expertise of the defense," defends Chamberland . #Magnotta

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 1m1 minute ago
Le Dr Chamberland n'a pas non plus appelé le premier doc qui a diagnostiqué #Magnotta schizophrène. Hors-jury à la demande de la Couronne.

Translation: Dr. Chamberland has not called the first doc who diagnosed #Magnotta schizophrenic. Jury out at the request of the Crown.

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 2m2 minutes ago
Notez que la défense n'a pas cru bon d'appeler ce médecin à la barre non plus. #Magnotta

Translation: Note that the defense did not see fit to call the doctor to testify either. #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

So now the defence, who refused to allow Chamberland access to Magnotta, are going to call him out for not evaluating him based on his records? He did not do an evaluation. He did a report disputing the findings of the two defence psychiatrists.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 5m5 minutes ago
Leclair suggère que Chamberland a fait "cherry picking" dans son rapport. "C'est le contraire", dit témoin. "J'ouvre des portes" #Magnotta

Translation: Leclair suggests that Chamberland was "cherry picking" in his report. " It's the opposite ," said the witness. "I opened the doors " #Magnotta

christianedesjardins ‏@chridesjardins · 4m4 minutes ago
Pourquoi #Magnotta serait allé à hôpital dire qu'il a pas psychose, un mois avant de tuer Lin Jun, demande défense? Pour Temazepam, dit psyc

Translation: Why would #Magnotta have gone to hospital to say that he had no psychosis, a month before killing Lin Jun , asked defense? For Temazepam says psyc

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 2m2 minutes ago
La défense cité maintenant le film "A Beautiful Mind" avec Russel Crowe. Ça parle de schizophrénie. #Magnotta

Translation: The defense now quoted the movie " A Beautiful Mind " with Russell Crowe. It's about schizophrenia. #Magnotta

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 2m2 minutes ago
"On peut être intelligent et schizophrène, il y a des exceptions possibles", dit le témoin. #Magnotta

Translation: You can be smart and schizophrenic, there are possible exceptions ," the witness said. #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

No one has tweeted in about 10 minutes. I think they've all finally had enough. LOL

 

[Kamille]

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 2m2 minutes ago
La défense confronte le témoin sur les plusieurs diagnostics de schizophrénie que #Magnotta à reçu au fil des ans.

Translation: Defense confronts the witness on several diagnoses of schizophrenia in that #Magnotta received over the years.

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 3m3 minutes ago
Le Dr Chamberland s'apprête à parler, avocat de #Magnotta l'arrête. "On la connaît votre théorie, vous l'avez sortie 20x ds médias en 2012"

Translation: Dr. Chamberland is about to speak , lawyer #Magnotta stops him . "We know your theory , you told it 20x to the media in 2012"

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 3m3 minutes ago
Plusieurs lettres écrites par #Magnotta apparaissent dans un des dossiers médicaux. Le témoin ne les a pas toutes lues.

Translation: Several letters written by #Magnotta appear in a medical records. The witness did not read them all .

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 3m3 minutes ago
Pause pm. #Magnotta

Afternoon break

 

[Kamille]

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 3m3 minutes ago
#Magnotta trial very repetitive today. Leclair is cross examining Chamberland but once again going over med records from years ago


And this explains why they all stopped tweeting. LeClair taking the opportunity with this witness to rehash the medical records....AGAIN!! Just as I predicted. The jury must be bored to tears.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 3m3 minutes ago
Procès #Magnotta reprend. Suite du contre-interrogatoire du psychiatre de la Couronne, Gilles Chamberland.

Translation: #Magnotta Trial resumes. Continuing the cross examination of Crown psychiatrist Gilles Chamberland

Michaël Nguyen ‏@MNguyenJDM · 4m4 minutes ago
Le jury est de retour. La défense continue avec les rapports médicaux de #Magnotta

Translation: The jury is back. The defense continues with medical reports #Magnotta

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 3m3 minutes ago
L'avocat de #Magnotta interroge le Dr Chamberland au sujet des dossiers médicaux de l'accusé en Ontario.

Translation: The lawyer of #Magnotta asks Dr. Chamberland about the medical records of the accused in Ontario.

salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 2m2 minutes ago
Defence is going through #Magnotta medical records. Chamberland has not read them in full.

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 3m3 minutes ago
Me Leclair dit que #Magnotta se plaignait souvent à Harrison House, maison pour schizophrènes de Peterborough. Il montre certaines plaints

Translation: Mr. Leclair said #Magnotta often complained to Harrison House, home for schizophrenics in Peterborough. He shows some complaints

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 35s35 seconds ago
À Harrison House (début des années 2000) #Magnotta s'est notamment plaint d'avoir été volé ou du comportement d'autres patients.

Translation: At Harrison House ( early 2000s ) #Magnotta particularly complained about being robbed by other patients