MA MA - Abbie Flynn, 60, went for walk before Super Bowl party, Gloucester, 2 Feb 2020

[Spider92]

With #5, what are you thinking about those seasonal homes/ outbuildings? That she wandered in due to curiosity or a medical issue- maybe to use the phone- and couldn’t get up/out? Any sites that particularly stood out?
I still can’t wrap my head around a 50’s nurse- medically & locally savvy to the unique environmental dangers- to put herself at risk of “falling” into the water. Nor can I wrap my head around suicide- when you’ve been cooking all day for a party. Who invites people over for warm cookies & offs themself right before? The circumstances baffle me. Jmo and all that jazz...

I don't have a specific theory on the outbuildings She may have wandered into one if she was cold, had hypothermia, was being chased by a coyote or was under the influence of alcohol/other. Or a perp could have dragged her in. I followed another case where a missing person with hypothermia was found in a shed a day or two after the area had been thoroughly searched. I also have visions of the Marathon bomber hiding in a winterized boat. While none of the above seem individually LIKELY to me, she's got to be somewhere.
I agree that the drowning would be unlikely as would an abduction, suicide or runaway. But one of these unlikely events had to have happened so I think we have to focus on what's possible, not what's likely.

 

[Spider92]

Dbm double post

 

[donskysmumz]

I hope I'm not in trouble writing this and I hope I am 100% wrong and maybe I am! Could she have had alcohol issues?

Others have speculated same. No answers though

 

[kay74]

Another thing, maybe she was not a drinker and just made herself one before her company came, got feeling buzzed and went out to walk it off. Thus she could have gone out on the rocks and slipped and fell. When you are inebriated you do things you would not normally do because your mind is unbalanced. So many cases of crazy things happening while under the influence.

 

[Falcon500]

Does anyone have her address? Maybe it would be better to send it to me privately.

 

[Spider92]

Does anyone have her address? Maybe it would be better to send it to me privately.

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[drama_farmer]

I don't have a specific theory on the outbuildings She may have wandered into one if she was cold, had hypothermia, was being chased by a coyote or was under the influence of alcohol/other. Or a perp could have dragged her in. I followed another case where a missing person with hypothermia was found in a shed a day or two after the area had been thoroughly searched. I also have visions of the Marathon bomber hiding in a winterized boat. While none of the above seem individually LIKELY to me, she's got to be somewhere.
I agree that the drowning would be unlikely as would an abduction, suicide or runaway. But one of these unlikely events had to have happened so I think we have to focus on what's possible, not what's likely.

IMO I recall a missing persons case of a middle aged man who went out for a run and disappeared. There were local searches, no stone unturned, etc.
He was eventually found not too far from home, in a seldom used Porta Potty.
Cause of death was cardiac arrest. So, Imo anything nearby that could conceal a human needs to be checked. Imo

 

[Falcon500]

I say again. Look in the house. It’s an old and large house. I’ve told three stories of people or bodies being found later in houses after the police left. Spend ten minutes at least in each room.

 

[keek]

I say again. Look in the house. It’s an old and large house. I’ve told three stories of people or bodies being found later in houses after the police left. Spend ten minutes at least in each room.

You never know....

 

[Dotrat]

I say again. Look in the house. It’s an old and large house. I’ve told three stories of people or bodies being found later in houses after the police left. Spend ten minutes at least in each room.

I was thinking about this yesterday, like what if she is in the house?

 

[Spider92]

I was thinking about this yesterday, like what if she is in the house?

wouldn't there be an odor? Or maybe the cadaver dogs would have been alerted?

 

[hey-Debbie]

Does anyone know if she was married?

 

[hey-Debbie]

So it appears this was her family's vacation home that she was visiting.

 

[Spider92]

Does anyone know if she was married?

Yes - married to a radiologist in Houston where they apparently had their main residence. The husband was reportedly in TX the night she disappeared and immediately traveled to Gloucester when she disappeared.

 

[Dotrat]

wouldn't there be an odor? Or maybe the cadaver dogs would have been alerted?

I would think that there would be an odor, but if she is "inside" something maybe not, also I recently watched an episode of Live PD and LE was doing a welfare check and had a cadaver dog sniffing outside by doors and windows of the house and the dog did not alert at all but once they gained entry they found a deceased person and she hadnt been seen for at least a month if not longer so I guess maybe it could happen.
MOO

 

[kay74]

Spider92 said there is a vehicle with Texas plates in the driveway so the husband must be in the house. I assume he's been there almost since this occurred so I would think he would have smelled something, ya think?

 

[hey-Debbie]

I wonder how often she stayed at the vacation home, and could she have possibly been seeing someone on the side? There was mention that her son was the last person that she talked to. Was he physically there or just by phone?

 

[Falcon500]

wouldn't there be an odor? Or maybe the cadaver dogs would have been alerted?

What cadaver dogs? Why would cadaver dogs come to a house of a missing person? The house is 120 years old. There are many hiding places, dumbwaiters maybe, back staircases, and dark basements.

Odors? Tell that to the owners of that grocery store where the boy was found behind the case after ten years. Or the nuns whose novice member was found in a crawl space years later or Uncle Harry who was found in rocking chair in the attic 40 years later.

Is she still in the house? Slim chance but still a reason to go through the house.

 

[Spider92]

What cadaver dogs? Why would cadaver dogs come to a house of a missing person? The house is 120 years old. There are many hiding places, dumbwaiters maybe, back staircases, and dark basements.

Odors? Tell that to the owners of that grocery store where the boy was found behind the case after ten years. Or the nuns whose novice member was found in a crawl space years later or Uncle Harry who was found in rocking chair in the attic 40 years later.

Is she still in the house? Slim chance but still a reason to go through the house.

Missing persons often become dead persons so I think it would be perfectly logical to bring cadaver dogs to the house. As you pointed out, experience has shown that the deceased have been found in strange places. The smarter question is “why wouldn’t cadaver dogs come to the house of a missing person?”

 

[Wild Rose]

Just knowing the rough coastline, I really think that she just slipped. The rocks can be so deceptively slippery, even the rocks underneath waterline. And when you are walking up there, you can be so attracted toward the water. Beautiful views, ships, waves, the harbors, the clearness of the water, it is just beautiful. And when you are alone, I think that you are just drawn to the sea with your thoughts. IMO If they have not considered the recent individual in Ipswich to be responsible.