MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #1

[Steleheart]

This is so confusing. I don't understand why a cause of death could not be determined.

COD and Manner of death often follow tox reports. It could actually take months. With no outward signs of trauma, a corpse only days old, toxicology is the key to COD.
IMO we will not know the toxicology findings. If she got into drugs or was drugged it will not relate to identifying her because that is only something a caregiver will know.

MOO

 

[Steleheart]

I keep checking, waiting for this beautiful little girl to have a name...

Because she is officially "Baby Doe" and she was found on Deer Island, in my heart I call her "Fawn".

I think Fawn will have a name very soon.

I think someone cries for her, misses her and will eventually speak.

That is my prayer.

MOO

 

[Steleheart]

BBM:

Yes, NOW it's a beautiful place but I remember when, before urban redevelopment et al. that the area was desolate & abandoned! (yeah, I'm OLD!).:loveyou:

You are talking about the B.R.A.


Ya I am old too! LOL

 

[elepher50]

On Monday, a few pieces of the puzzle fell into place -- but they hardly even begin to paint a clearer picture.

One: Investigators now think her body was left on the rocks; it didn't wash up there.

Two: She likely is from the area, and not from Canada.

And some more information at: http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/14/us/baby-doe-investigation/

 

[cady]

JMO The position of her body could be a clue. Obviously, if she had started to decompose, rigor mortis had already occurred. I do think possible suffocation, and she may have crawled into an old refrigerator, or something like that. Or, as happens to kittens and puppies, we are warned, she may have suffocated in a plastic bag, and not been found until she had been dead for some time. JMO

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I think that there could be lots of people who would recognize baby doe but just assume the child is alive and well? Like she may look like your cousin in another state but why would you think she's dead and unclaimed?

 

[jillybean51]

BBM.

So....are we thinking she was put in the plastic bag and then suffocated inside it?

The report on CNN that she was placed in the location seems to indicate she was meant to be found. She wasn't exactly hidden. The body was found soon after the girl died, which I'm guessing was how it was planned by the person who left the bag.

??? What's going on?! Please, someone, come forward with information about this little girl.

And depending on where she died....why travel all the way to a beach....why not woods,a park etc?

 

[justwannahelp]

Another long shot....saw this on the FB page.....and I think she looks so close to Baby Doe. This little girl is missing from France. A lot of it is written in French, but I translated with Google Translate to see what the story was etc. I found a missing person page for her too.
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http://www.interpol.int/notice/search/missing/2014-54732

The FB page I found:
https://www.facebook.com/kidnappingEnfant?pnref=lhc

Looks like the story on this one is that Dad kidnapped her last August, along with his girlfriends (or new wife's) kids. Mom is from Morocco living in France.

What do y'all think k about this child? I think she looks very much like Baby Doe. Should someone pass on to LE?

 

[cady]

And depending on where she died....why travel all the way to a beach....why not woods,a park etc?

UGH. Car trunk? I don't know, but since we have no idea whether or not the leggings were soiled, it seems to me that she was cleaned after she died and re-clothed. LE is not about to give out details, because all they want from the public is to identify her. The WS threads on Cooper Harris's hot car death are quite informative about hot car hyperthermia. JMO

 

[Max17]

And some more information at: http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/14/us/baby-doe-investigation/

And that information has been quickly disputed: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/07/14/identity-of-girl-found-dead-on-deer-island-remains-a-mystery/

Officials said there is no validity to reports that the body was placed on the beach rather than washing ashore.

In addition, investigators said it is not true that they determined the unidentified girl is not from Canada, or that toxicology tests are complete.

“Investigators have not drawn any conclusions as to how the child’s remains got to the western shore of Deer Island, they are exploring leads from across the country and even internationally, and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner has not completed the specialized testing associated with toxicology screens,” the District Attorney’s office said.

 

[jjohnston0827]

And that information has been quickly disputed: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/07/14/identity-of-girl-found-dead-on-deer-island-remains-a-mystery/

Hmmm... I wonder where CNN got that information. You'd think CNN would confirm their information for making announcements like this...

 

[mommylicious]

Well shoot. I was thinking if she was placed there that maybe Deer Island held some significance... A favorite place to visit or something.

 

[Canadianmom2three]

I do think it looks like her. I know her height and weight were a bit more than as baby doe when she went missing, but I was just wondering how accurate both those measurments were along with the ones afterward. I probably wouldn't be too strict based on those just in case.

 

[Migmuu]

JMO The position of her body could be a clue. Obviously, if she had started to decompose, rigor mortis had already occurred. I do think possible suffocation, and she may have crawled into an old refrigerator, or something like that. Or, as happens to kittens and puppies, we are warned, she may have suffocated in a plastic bag, and not been found until she had been dead for some time. JMO

I don't think it was an innocent accident. Little kids die accidentally all the time (whether it's crawling into an old fridge, strangling themselves with that cord that opens/closes the blinds, drowning in the pool, etc) and almost every time it happens, the parents call the police. Even in cases where a parent know charges will likely be filed against them. The caregivers of children who die in innocent accidents almost never take measures to conceal the body.

IMO whatever killed her was either intentional, or it was an accident that resulted from some kind of illegal activity or is somehow the fault of the caregiver(s).

 

[Migmuu]

I think that there could be lots of people who would recognize baby doe but just assume the child is alive and well? Like she may look like your cousin in another state but why would you think she's dead and unclaimed?

Yeah this is probably the case, if someone who knows Baby Doe or her caregiver(s) is aware of the body being found.

IMO a lot of people in this thread are thinking up some very unlikely and far-fetched scenarios (I saw someone suggest her parents might be part of a traveling cult, and others suggesting she's the child of a long-term abduction victim a la Amanda Berry), while ignoring the most likely ones: that her family doesn't really watch the news, that they may have seen the news but have no reason to suspect it's their cousin/granddaughter/niece/goddaughter, her family is estranged from Baby Doe's caregivers and haven't had contact with them for a long time, or her family simply doesn't know she's even missing in the first place. Not to mention that police may have already received the tip that will lead to her identification, but they're so swamped with tips/leads from the public that it'll take a while for them to look into it. It hasn't even been a month yet.

 

[Canadianmom2three]

Yeah this is probably the case, if someone who knows Baby Doe or her caregiver(s) is aware of the body being found.

IMO a lot of people in this thread are thinking up some very unlikely and far-fetched scenarios (I saw someone suggest her parents might be part of a traveling cult, and others suggesting she's the child of a long-term abduction victim a la Amanda Berry), while ignoring the most likely ones: that her family doesn't really watch the news, that they may have seen the news but have no reason to suspect it's their cousin/granddaughter/niece/goddaughter, her family is estranged from Baby Doe's caregivers and haven't had contact with them for a long time, or her family simply doesn't know she's even missing in the first place. Not to mention that police may have already received the tip that will lead to her identification, but they're so swamped with tips/leads from the public that it'll take a while for them to look into it. It hasn't even been a month yet.

I think you are probably correct on this one. It's probably not something far fetched, but I guess the possibility is still there.
I also think too that a lot of people (including myself) find it hard to understand how this beautiful little girl can be found deceased about a month ago and no one realizes she is missing yet. Rationally, I know it's possible that this is the case, but it's sad, and so our brains start to make up reasons as to why and how she could possibly not be identified yet. I don't think it's bad to explore all options while maybe a more simpler explanation unfolds. I hope it's soon.

 

[cady]

I don't think it was an innocent accident. Little kids die accidentally all the time (whether it's crawling into an old fridge, strangling themselves with that cord that opens/closes the blinds, drowning in the pool, etc) and almost every time it happens, the parents call the police. Even in cases where a parent know charges will likely be filed against them. The caregivers of children who die in innocent accidents almost never take measures to conceal the body.

IMO whatever killed her was either intentional, or it was an accident that resulted from some kind of illegal activity or is somehow the fault of the caregiver(s).

OK. To my knowledge this has not yet been ruled to be a homicide. So, possibilities are many. Whoever put her there could be criminally responsible for her death, or, only criminally responsible for not reporting her death to authorities. Why that was not done presents many possible scenarios. I see nothing wrong with entertaining those possibilities. JMO

 

[LisaB]

Here's another far-fetched idea...
If a child is placed for adoption with a non-family member, Child Services remains in touch with the family for a period of time.

If a child is adopted by a family member, the background checks and maintenance are not nearly as thorough, particularly in an unofficial adoption (Ayla Reynolds stayed with her Dad while her Mom served a short jail term, and nobody verified that he was a suitable caregiver before she was placed with him). Often an aunt, uncle, or parent will take care of a child for a relative who is ill, incarcerated, or who dies, without filing official paperwork.

What happens if a child is adopted from overseas? Is the family monitored? What sort of background checks are run? I know there have been stories of pedophiles adopting small children from abroad because they are not usually in the care of a social worker.

Lately there have been a lot of stories about families adopting foreign children, only to get them to the U.S. and find they have serious issues, either as a result of their being mistreated prior to being placed for adoption, or as a result of spending an extended period in an institution. These parents often try to either sell the child or re-home the child (like it is a pet!). One family put a boy they had adopted on a plane back to his home country with a one-way ticket because he had adjustment issues they were not informed of prior to the adoption.

If a foreign adoption wasn't working out, could a parent lose patience and fatally injure the child for misbehaving? If this parent WANTED a child, and WANTED to love this child, but "snapped", the apparent loving care in choosing the polka dot leggings and pretty zebra blanket may imply regret over the death.

 

[cady]

Yes, Lisa. Possible. Her body could have been buried, or destroyed, or thrown out to sea, but it was left in plain sight to be found, and given a proper burial, the way I see it. JMO

 

[fizzypop]

I still think the simplest explanation is the most likely. She is not being identified because this was done by a parent/caretaker who didn't report her missing, and doesn't have family in the area or in their lives to notice she is missing. That to me is the only reason she would not be reported missing. As to what happened, whether or not they had something to do with her death or not, can't be as easily deduced, but I'd say it's a 95% chance that it was a parent/caretaker involved in disposing of her.

I don't want this to be true, and I hope to God that the right tip is in there and they haven't gotten to it yet, but I just feel that if they haven't had something that really sticks out to them by now, it's gonna be a long haul and might never get solved. Which seems unfathomable in this day and age, but it's still possible.