MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #3

[webweaved]

http://www.wcvb.com/news/state-launches-new-campaign-to-identify-baby-doe/35158212

Sounds like they're still trying to get her face out there. IMO that really means they think she is a US resident and definitely local to Mass, and probably not Emili or any other foreign missing girl.

I wonder if that also means they don't think she is an illegal immigrant? I would think if she died naturally and no one spoke up as to knowing her because of immigration status, then new billboards wouldn't change that... IMO this means that LE knows/thinks she is a local (as they have mentioned but not definitively), or has been for at least a year, and that they are fairly certain she is not, say... an immigrant from Central America or Mexico... maybe she is bi-racial, partially white? Which might convince them that she probably isn't illegal.

OR, they're just out of new leads and are throwing up a last try... I hope that is not the case.

ETA: am I correct that they have never flat out said her race? I would think with DNA results, they would have said definitively if she were 100% Caucasian?

Good post. I bet you're right. I'm guessing Emili is not a HIT on the DNA since they are rolling out yet another Billboard. Another dead end. Just guessing from their actions. We dont know this to be fact yet. LE has been firm recently on the local theory. They say the black soot in her lungs and ISO test show that at some point she was a city girl...exposed to the heart of Boston. Deer Island is truly a local hangout. I know people that have lived in MA their entire life and didn't even know about Deer Island. JMO.

 

[carbuff]

http://www.wcvb.com/news/state-launches-new-campaign-to-identify-baby-doe/35158212

Sounds like they're still trying to get her face out there. IMO that really means they think she is a US resident and definitely local to Mass, and probably not Emili or any other foreign missing girl.

I wonder if that also means they don't think she is an illegal immigrant? I would think if she died naturally and no one spoke up as to knowing her because of immigration status, then new billboards wouldn't change that... IMO this means that LE knows/thinks she is a local (as they have mentioned but not definitively), or has been for at least a year, and that they are fairly certain she is not, say... an immigrant from Central America or Mexico... maybe she is bi-racial, partially white? Which might convince them that she probably isn't illegal.

OR, they're just out of new leads and are throwing up a last try... I hope that is not the case.

ETA: am I correct that they have never flat out said her race? I would think with DNA results, they would have said definitively if she were 100% Caucasian?

DNA won't tell you that. It can identify certain ethnic subgroups, such as Ashkenhazic Jewish ancestry, but for the most part race is a social construct, not a biological one.

All they've said is that they think she lived in the Boston area for the last part of her life. They haven't said anything about where she might have been from before that, and there's nothing about what's been said so far that has any implication for immigration status.

 

[jenlee1966]

JMO. As sleuthers, Im sure we get on LEs nerves. We are only playing with half the deck of cards they are holding. I want to believe no mother would let her child lay on a cold slab in the morgue under the toe tag DOE. That would have to eat away at her. The child screamed FEMALE presence. I feel strongly about that. There was/is a female in her life. Floridian and I were talking and to her it seemed like the childs hair had been cut SUPER short on the LEFT side. Look at this with us. You're looking right at the photo from your computer, now look to the left. See all the photoshop cloning of the hair? Its super short, it looks butchered to us. Do you think she got "mommy haircuts" because she was so isolated or do you think our baby girl got ahold of some scissors and gave herself a little snip snip. This is the age children love some scissors. IF she did cut her hair, has any MA mommies and daddies been told any stories about "omg lil suzy cut her hair and it looks terrible!" usually they share this info with someone. Just a thought we had! The artist must have added that feature for a reason. (scroll down this page to the first post where her photo will always be)

I went back and looked at her photo and see exactly what you and Floridian were seeing. I can't believe I missed that. I bet she cut it herself. My daughter had a friend cut her bangs really short while at school. It was horrible. But with how long baby girl's hair is, it may not have been that noticeable. It also looks like her hair was layered. Maybe Mom was a stylist at one point?



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[carbuff]

I thought it just looked like she had bangs that had partly grown out?

 

[jenlee1966]

I am looking at the big clump of hair very short in front of her left ear. That seems awful low to be part of her bangs, but I am not sure. Kids have weird hairlines.


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[Steleheart]

Bearing in mind that the picture is not a photograph but a computer generated image using specialized software, I can't put much stock in to how hair parts look close up. I think that on the left side of the picture, in front of the ear, the artist tried to make it look tucked under and left a larger edge rather than the fine strand-like edge at the other ear.

As I recall the composite released is not meant to represent her actual look but what "she may have looked like in life".

MOO

 

[carbuff]

I am looking at the big clump of hair very short in front of her left ear. That seems awful low to be part of her bangs, but I am not sure. Kids have weird hairlines.


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Like these: http://whoorl.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/bangb.jpg

 

[jenlee1966]

They could definitely be bangs. Thanks for the picture. That does help. Steleheart, I appreciate your information. I guess I always assume hair is one of those things they can get right because it is still present (unless cut or ripped out)? I actually don't know much about what happens to hair follicles after death. Does anyone know?


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[Steleheart]

Good post. I bet you're right. I'm guessing Emili is not a HIT on the DNA since they are rolling out yet another Billboard. Another dead end. Just guessing from their actions. We dont know this to be fact yet. LE has been firm recently on the local theory. They say the black soot in her lungs and ISO test show that at some point she was a city girl...exposed to the heart of Boston. Deer Island is truly a local hangout. I know people that have lived in MA their entire life and didn't even know about Deer Island. JMO.

LOL where did they live, Athol? :laughing:

So on the other point I believe that the soot was part of the pollen analysis and not a lung thing but I did not save a link for that, sorry. I think it was more about pine and cedar mixed with soot, that to me would be public parks, trucks and busses.

But that was only the clothing, afaik.

 

[Bootsctr]

I went back and looked at her photo and see exactly what you and Floridian were seeing. I can't believe I missed that. I bet she cut it herself. My daughter had a friend cut her bangs really short while at school. It was horrible. But with how long baby girl's hair is, it may not have been that noticeable. It also looks like her hair was layered. Maybe Mom was a stylist at one point?


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I see what you are talking about. The picture of Baby Girl does to me look like her hair could have been layered or she, herself, got hold of some scissors and cut off a good length. Mom tries to blend it. Mom being a stylist is a good idea. A lot of stylists cut other people's hair in their own home for extra cash. But, surely someone would have seen her and remembered her if she had lived most her 4 to 5 years in the same neighborhood? What kind of existence did this child have? Was she kept hidden from everyone? Tucked away and couldn't make a sound. Did she still suck a pacifier? I'm wondering now if the mother isn't dead too. Her body could be in another state.

 

[carbuff]

The mother could be dead from an overdose, like several hundred other Massachusetts men and women, and left a child who wasn't wanted or was neglected

 

[webweaved]

LOL where did they live, Athol? :laughing:

So on the other point I believe that the soot was part of the pollen analysis and not a lung thing but I did not save a link for that, sorry. I think it was more about pine and cedar mixed with soot, that to me would be public parks, trucks and busses.

But that was only the clothing, afaik.

Ha-ha. Legit, they were like Deer what? LOL. Ok whatever specific tests they ran on her yielded those soot/pollen results. To me, it didnt read like they thought she was there one or two days..more like she spent time there. Im guessing they are holding something back..something that makes them adamant on her being local. They said that from day one even before the results basically confirmed it.

 

[Bootsctr]

Thanks steleheart! I have to keep reminding myself it is not a photo, but a computer-generated image. It looks like a photo. Do they no longer work with the actual skull and clay any more?

 

[webweaved]

Bearing in mind that the picture is not a photograph but a computer generated image using specialized software, I can't put much stock in to how hair parts look close up. I think that on the left side of the picture, in front of the ear, the artist tried to make it look tucked under and left a larger edge rather than the fine strand-like edge at the other ear.

As I recall the composite released is not meant to represent her actual look but what "she may have looked like in life".

MOO

She could have cloned the other side of the face to make it look uniform. She didnt. This is a skilled, professional artist. Shes not a kid drawing in a basement for funsies. JMO. Thanks for taking a look at it.

 

[Kaliste]

I really don't think anything is odd about the hair. Looks like some major photoshop side burns. Little kids hair grows so wildly, fast in certain spots and slow in others. My youngest has a major mullet/widows peak thing going on. I'm hoping it straightens it's self out before she's old enough for elementary school

Baby doe also appears to have quite long and scraggly hair to me. It doesn't look layered or cut with side bangs, it just looks grown out. It's possible she's either never had a hair cut or hasn't had one in a very long time.

 

[Kaliste]

LE needs to throw us a bone here. We need something new to over analyze!

 

[jenlee1966]

I honestly feel like this case has hit a huge dead end. I am hopeful every time a notification pops up from one of the Boston news apps that something has come to light. When are the full isotope results set to be released? They only sent preliminary results, right? Wasn't there a mention of something surprising in those preliminary results?


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[Bootsctr]

Nothing new from article dated July 15, 2015. Just stating they believe she was dead 2 - 4 days and toxicology tests could take months.

"Suffolk County District Attorney Daniel F. Conley said investigators have not turned up any reports of missing children matching the girl’s description.

Conley said at the news conference that he believes “we’re one tip away from solving this mystery,” and noted the urgency of finding out where the girl came from.

Authorities can’t rule out the possibility that there are other children in the home where she lived, he said.

“We also have to make sure that no other children are harmed or in danger,” Conley said. “Any other children in this household are also at risk.”

The girl had not been dead long by the time her body was found, he added — perhaps two to four days.

It’s still not clear how she died, and it could take months for toxicology reports to be complete."

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...tml?s_campaign=bostonglobe:socialflow:twitter

 

[heartgoesout]

All of these theories, suffocation, drugs, etc...would show up in an autopsy and show cause of death...

 

[jenlee1966]

All of these theories, suffocation, drugs, etc...would show up in an autopsy and show cause of death...

What doesn't show up on an autopsy?


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