MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #4

[pepelepolecat]

McCarthy is currently hospitalized for abscesses in his arms due to heroin use, according to an official with knowledge of the investigation, and Amoroso claimed that Bond told him she was only able to escape after his hospitalization.

Amoroso said that he met Bond after her phone call. She did not immediately tell him what had happened to Bella. Bond said she wanted to sleep by the water, so they spent the night outdoors in South Boston, and all she talked about was Bella, he said. Bond did not say the child was dead, just that Amoroso would find out everything.

It was only after they had spent about 24 hours together that she finally laid out the “horrific” details of their daughter’s death, said Amoroso. He declined to elaborate.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/09/19/bella/gTUv3lRRWmVY5uIdrbW0SP/story.html

Ah, a new variation of "the devil made me do it." It's always someone else's fault -- never hers, I'll warrant. I'll also bet that she put on quite a show about how heartbroken she was. Meanwhile, her child is still dead directly as a result of her choices. She gets no sympathy from me.

 

[WantingToHelp]

Does anyone happen to know her weight and height (correct)? My daughter was born 4th of august 2012. .. I'll weigh and measure her for comparison. She's average sized for her age group

Edited to add my daughters weight and height...

16kg
94cms tall

94cm = 37in

the police said baby doe was about 3 1/2 feet tall = 42in tall

im not saying that Bella isn't baby doe, but things just don't add up.

police say baby doe is between 3-5yrs old. And say that Bella died when she was 2 1/2 (she can't continue to grow in height of weight after death)

police say say no signs of trauma on baby doe and then say that Bella had a violent death

bellas eyebrows are very dark and a prominent feature on her. Yet the picture of baby doe doesn't show that

yes, I understand that she was deceased and waterlogged, but do eyebrows just change shape that quickly after death? I can't see the artist screwing up the composite concerning that.

something seems very off to me.

Bella dying at the hands of her moms boyfriend/husband is probably true. The mom helping to conceal Bella is prob true. The police finding evidence of her death in the home is prob true.

But now we just wait for the DNA results to see if it positively identifies Bella as baby doe.

 

[wondering25]

94cm = 37in

the police said baby doe was about 3 1/2 feet tall = 42in tall

im not saying that Bella isn't baby doe, but things just don't add up.

police say baby doe is between 3-5yrs old. And say that Bella died when she was 2 1/2 (she can't continue to grow in height of weight after death)

police say say no signs of trauma on baby doe and then say that Bella had a violent death

bellas eyebrows are very dark and a prominent feature on her. Yet the picture of baby doe doesn't show that

yes, I understand that she was deceased and waterlogged, but do eyebrows just change shape that quickly after death? I can't see the artist screwing up the composite concerning that.

something seems very off to me.

Bella dying at the hands of her moms boyfriend/husband is probably true. The mom helping to conceal Bella is prob true. The police finding evidence of her death in the home is prob true.

But now we just wait for the DNA results to see if it positively identifies Bella as baby doe.

Maybe it was just a very sloppy autopsy? Depending on the cause of death, the soft tissue would have greatly decomposed, so if she was punched in the stomach as reported, there may have not been the necessary tissue available( due to decomposition) to make a definitive cause of death based on say internal bleeding. The only thing I question is the height. That should have been easy to determine. The bones would be "intact" and easily measured.. A decomposing body is really a terrible thing to see. The eyes usually go and the bugs etc go for the skin and organs. Apparently the bones showed no obvious signs of fracture, gunshot wound etc so no trauma in that sense. I do have a question. Was she actually buried or were those just memorials that were erected? MOO

Just my opinion on all of this

 

[matou]

I guess she sent the text on Thursday or earlier since that's when LE searched her apartment. That's also when she found her ex and stayed with him outside. I think she made it seem like she ran away scared and escaped her live-in boyfriend when it was the cops who came to execute their search warrant. I think this lady tells stories.

Investigators got their big break after Boston police received a tip and a search warrant was executed Thursday at Rachelle Bond's apartment.

http://www.wmtw.com/news/bella-bonds-father-says-mother-not-to-blame-in-death/35379198

 

[matou]

Question: Was MM at the apartment when police showed up? I know he is in the hospital now. Just wondering if he was a mess in the apartment and LE brought him to the hospital based on his infections. JMO

 

[~n/t~]

94cm = 37in

the police said baby doe was about 3 1/2 feet tall = 42in tall

im not saying that Bella isn't baby doe, but things just don't add up.

police say baby doe is between 3-5yrs old. And say that Bella died when she was 2 1/2 (she can't continue to grow in height of weight after death)

police say say no signs of trauma on baby doe and then say that Bella had a violent death

bellas eyebrows are very dark and a prominent feature on her. Yet the picture of baby doe doesn't show that

yes, I understand that she was deceased and waterlogged, but do eyebrows just change shape that quickly after death? I can't see the artist screwing up the composite concerning that.

something seems very off to me.

Bella dying at the hands of her moms boyfriend/husband is probably true. The mom helping to conceal Bella is prob true. The police finding evidence of her death in the home is prob true.

But now we just wait for the DNA results to see if it positively identifies Bella as baby doe.

I believe LE positively know baby Doe is Bella or they would've waited before having the press conference.

If you look at some of the "Identified" persons on this forum, many of the sketches are slightly off. Sketch artists work with what they have. Not an easy job when you have a decomposed body to work with.

 

[Mollyandme]

I have a child with a speech and language delay and let me say...it is rough. I can see someone with very little patience just snapping because of it. It's scary to think about.

I have a similar situation with one of my children. He will be 3 in December and his speech is delayed. I brought this up with his pediatrician at his 18 month check up and we decided to wait to see if he had more words by age 2 before any further testing. At his 2 year well visit with only some improvement, the doctor decided to have him evaluated by early intervention, which we did. If RB had these concerns about her daughter i wonder if she told the pediatrician, which leads me to my bigger question: if she ever took Bella to the doctor and when the last appointment was. I'm sure they are collecting those records as we speak.

 

[iamnotagolem]

But baby doe wasn't water logged, was she? She wasn't found in the water and as far as I remember hadn't been in the water.

I'm wondering the same things as you. Could the perps have shaved her eyebrows? They are very distinctive and had they been on the UID poster I'm certain there wouldn't have been so many suggestions of other little girls that resembled baby doe.

 

[Bravo]

We dont know for sure yet if Bella was in the water. She may have been and the tides brought her back to shore.

 

[jjenny]

I believe LE positively know baby Doe is Bella or they would've waited before having the press conference.

If you look at some of the "Identified" persons on this forum, many of the sketches are slightly off. Sketch artists work with what they have. Not an easy job when you have a decomposed body to work with.

Exactly. Police seem to have no doubt the body is of Bella. There is a strong resemblance between Bella and the sketch.
But being even a little off could make the face look very different. Body was apparently refrigerated first then moved. Could have been quite a bit of decomposition in the body.

 

[jjenny]

I believe LE positively know baby Doe is Bella or they would've waited before having the press conference.

If you look at some of the "Identified" persons on this forum, many of the sketches are slightly off. Sketch artists work with what they have. Not an easy job when you have a decomposed body to work with.

Exactly. Police seem to have no doubt the body is of Bella. There is a strong resemblance between Bella and the sketch.
But being even a little off could make the face look very different. Body was apparently refrigerated first then moved. Could have been quite a bit of decomposition in the body.

 

[Jayarre]

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...zinis_bella_s_dad_stuck_in_prison_of_what_ifs

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Amoroso also said Rachelle told him last week that Bella was killed some two months before her tiny body was found on the shore of Deer Island. Rachelle, he said, told him how she and McCarthy stuffed Bella’s body into a trash bag and dumped it into the harbor off South Boston’s city point. Amoroso said he and Bond talked about going to the FBI, but never did. Bond, he said, texted someone else about Bella’s death and that person notified police.

 

[ilovepierre]

I have no doubt that Baby Doe is Bella.
The body was slightly decomposed, so getting a completely accurate sketch would have been difficult.
IME from reading and following some of the cases in the UID thread, the sketches don't usually match the person once they have been identified.

 

[audge86]

There were two different heights reported for Bella. One said 3'6 while others said 36"

I'm inclined to believe that she was 36" and 30 pounds. She was a little chunk.

My 2.5 year old daughter is 34" but slim at 22 pounds.

For Bella's build, 36" and 30 pounds sounds about right

Makes me wonder why they thought she was 4 years old though. Maybe her pants were a 4T?

 

[jjenny]

There were two different heights reported for Bella. One said 3'6 while others said 36"

I'm inclined to believe that she was 36" and 30 pounds. She was a little chunk.

My 2.5 year old daughter is 34" but slim at 22 pounds.

For Bella's build, 36" and 30 pounds sounds about right

Makes me wonder why they thought she was 4 years old though. Maybe her pants were a 4T?

I don't know why they thought she was 4. It never made sense to me. If she were 30 pounds, being 4 would be at the very bottom of the weight chart. But she wasn't skinny and malnourished. I think they were off on the age for some reason.

 

[jjenny]

There were two different heights reported for Bella. One said 3'6 while others said 36"

I'm inclined to believe that she was 36" and 30 pounds. She was a little chunk.

My 2.5 year old daughter is 34" but slim at 22 pounds.

For Bella's build, 36" and 30 pounds sounds about right

Makes me wonder why they thought she was 4 years old though. Maybe her pants were a 4T?

I don't know why they thought she was 4. It never made sense to me. If she were 30 pounds, being 4 would be at the very bottom of the weight chart. But she wasn't skinny and malnourished. I think they were off on the age for some reason.

 

[~n/t~]

What I'm having a difficult time with is understanding COD. RB claims Bella was punched in the stomach by MM. I know that many of our knowledgeable members described how this could have happened without physical trauma showing up in autopsy BUT one would think that punching a little 2 year old would cause rib damage. An adult fist punching a little child's stomach , one would think their tiny body would have more injuries than has been reported. Hope you all understand what I'm trying to say.

 

[jjenny]

What I'm having a difficult time with is understanding COD. RB claims Bella was punched in the stomach by MM. I know that many of our knowledgeable members described how this could have happened without physical trauma showing up in autopsy BUT one would think that punching a little 2 year old would cause rib damage. An adult fist punching a little child's stomach , one would think their tiny body would have more injuries than has been reported. Hope you all understand what I'm trying to say.

Ribs are protecting chest cavity, not the abdomen.

 

[relay]

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...zinis_bella_s_dad_stuck_in_prison_of_what_ifs

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Amoroso also said Rachelle told him last week that Bella was killed some two months before her tiny body was found on the shore of Deer Island. Rachelle, he said, told him how she and McCarthy stuffed Bella’s body into a trash bag and dumped it into the harbor off South Boston’s city point. Amoroso said he and Bond talked about going to the FBI, but never did. Bond, he said, texted someone else about Bella’s death and that person notified police.

So, it wasn't even little Bella's father that alerted LE? Disgraceful.

 

[audge86]

What I'm having a difficult time with is understanding COD. RB claims Bella was punched in the stomach by MM. I know that many of our knowledgeable members described how this could have happened without physical trauma showing up in autopsy BUT one would think that punching a little 2 year old would cause rib damage. An adult fist punching a little child's stomach , one would think their tiny body would have more injuries than has been reported. Hope you all understand what I'm trying to say.

More will be known tomorrow when they're arraigned. Police may have not released everything