MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #4

[audge86]

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...zinis_bella_s_dad_stuck_in_prison_of_what_ifs

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Amoroso also said Rachelle told him last week that Bella was killed some two months before her tiny body was found on the shore of Deer Island. Rachelle, he said, told him how she and McCarthy stuffed Bella’s body into a trash bag and dumped it into the harbor off South Boston’s city point. Amoroso said he and Bond talked about going to the FBI, but never did. Bond, he said, texted someone else about Bella’s death and that person notified police.

Weren't the police pretty sure she was just placed on deer island? Maybe mom lied to dad?

 

[pepelepolecat]

There were two different heights reported for Bella. One said 3'6 while others said 36"

I'm inclined to believe that she was 36" and 30 pounds. She was a little chunk.

My 2.5 year old daughter is 34" but slim at 22 pounds.

For Bella's build, 36" and 30 pounds sounds about right

Makes me wonder why they thought she was 4 years old though. Maybe her pants were a 4T?

Using clothing sizes is a sure-fire way to be off on age -- I had one in 12T when he was 3 mos. I had another one who was wearing a size 3T when he was a year old. The biggest (not oldest, lol) one is now in adult men's sizes at 11. He's definitely no adult although he has the height and build of one. Would they be able to use skeletal developments, changes and presence/absense of teeth to age a child at that point? It seems to me that would be a much more accurate way to determine age (but I'm definitely not an expert).

 

[human]

She could say he punched her but it might turn out to be something else. I wonder where the father was staying. I wonder if he was hoping for a place to stay with RB.

 

[SwizzleStix]

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...zinis_bella_s_dad_stuck_in_prison_of_what_ifs

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Amoroso also said Rachelle told him last week that Bella was killed some two months before her tiny body was found on the shore of Deer Island. Rachelle, he said, told him how she and McCarthy stuffed Bella’s body into a trash bag and dumped it into the harbor off South Boston’s city point. Amoroso said he and Bond talked about going to the FBI, but never did. Bond, he said, texted someone else about Bella’s death and that person notified police.

2 months! Sick. Someone on another site mentioned the random weather post on FB. They questioned whether it was related to Bella's time of death and not wanting her body in the heat. Gah, that's awful to type. Does anyone remember exactly when that was posted? I'm hoping it's totally unrelated.

 

[matou]

So for two months was RB getting money for the care of Bella? How did she pay for her place? Was she getting welfare? How was she getting the heroin? I know she was a prostitute so I'm sure some money was coming from that. I just can't believe she made enough to cover the rent month to month for $20 a deal IYKWIM. She should be fined for fraud as well if she was claiming any money for Bella. JMO

 

[Dogface]

I have a child with a speech and language delay and let me say...it is rough. I can see someone with very little patience just snapping because of it. It's scary to think about.

I have a similar situation with one of my children. He will be 3 in December and his speech is delayed. I brought this up with his pediatrician at his 18 month check up and we decided to wait to see if he had more words by age 2 before any further testing. At his 2 year well visit with only some improvement, the doctor decided to have him evaluated by early intervention, which we did. If RB had these concerns about her daughter i wonder if she told the pediatrician, which leads me to my bigger question: if she ever took Bella to the doctor and when the last appointment was. I'm sure they are collecting those records as we speak.

Slightly O/T but not really. Mollyandme, that is EXACTLY the scenario I am in with my daughter. I know when we first got that diagnosis, even though I KNEW it was what the dr. was going to say, I felt like somehow I failed my dd in some way, and that it was my fault since I stay at home with her. I wonder if RB felt that way? Or was she just angry at the extra level of frustrations that it was something else she had to deal with? There have been times where my daughter is trying to speak to me and it's so frustrating because sometimes I just can't figure out what she is trying to say, and those times can be trying. But not because I am angry, or that she is frustrated, but because I feel like I should know!

I will say we enrolled her in a hearing school(even though she is a typical hearing child) which she goes to twice a week, then we meet with a speech apraxia specialist twice a week as well and we are almost at the point of not needing them! It's so amazing to hear her start talking, and I wish you both the best of luck as you are tackling this! Do yall work with the state program EIC? If so do you know if they are mandated reporters? I know here they came to our house, but could only come once every two weeks. While I doubt RB pursued any help for this, if she did I will be so disheartened if little Bella was let down by another adult.

I am very interested to see if Bella had seen anyone out of that house in the recent months before she was murdered. I feel like she probably hadn't, besides other junkies, because I don't think RB was holding a mommy of the year facade at that point.

 

[Dogface]

Oh and I shudder at the thought of her possibly getting pregnant again.

 

[audge86]

So for two months was RB getting money for the care of Bella? How did she pay for her place? Was she getting welfare? How was she getting the heroin? I know she was a prostitute so I'm sure some money was coming from that. I just can't believe she made enough to cover the rent month to month for $20 a deal IYKWIM. She should be fined for fraud as well if she was claiming any money for Bella. JMO

Her housing was likely subsidized. She would likely get food stamps, welfare, wic and she seemed to be on disability benefits

 

[SwizzleStix]

Weren't the police pretty sure she was just placed on deer island? Maybe mom lied to dad?

But she could have been dead for 2 months before being placed. And left in the refrigerator or freezer.

 

[deoneta]

RB's strategy to paint herself as a victim is ridiculous. Claiming that she was held hostage and forcibly injected with heroin doesn't square with the statements of neighbors who asked about Bella and were told she was in DFC custody. Instead of asking the neighbor to call police immediately while out for her smoke, she lied. When MM ended up in the hospital, did she contact police? No, she ran to her old hook up/baby daddy. It's possible that her account of the COD is true, but she's an obvious liar. Unless there is much more evidence obtained at autopsy than has been revealed thus far, we make never know what happened. All MOO.

 

[leah]

Her housing was likely subsidized. She would likely get food stamps, welfare, wic and she seemed to be on disability benefits

What kind of disability benefits would she receive? Benefits for being a drug addicted, prostitute? I just sometimes loose my temper over these things, I realize drug addiction is serious, and certainly not making lite of it, we have a family member who threw away his entire life, home, kids, job, everything, because of drugs. How was RB, disabled?

 

[human]

I am not sure how things work if she was on disability.

She would not be getting welfare. There is a one year limit one time to stay home with your child. This is a Federal rule. Then people get sanctions if they are not working, going to school, or looking for a job. For a family of two, the welfare amount probably would be around $200 a month.

She probably does get housing . She would pay an amount based on her income. There are strict rules in terms of inspection to make sure the apartment is clean and orderly. There are also rules that she cannot have a bf staying there and if she has one with a criminal record, where I live she would lose her ability to have govt housing for ten years.

Because she has a child, she would get food stamps and medical. No cash. That option would be removed by sanctions each month that she does not comply.

I do not know how it works on SSI. What would be her amount and is it in cash? Does Bella get something because she is a child?

As lovely as people think welfare is, think about it. Yes, you get housing in some undesireable location with people just as desperate or more than you are. Out of the tiny amount of money you get, say about $200 for you and your child, you have to buy clothes, pay your share of electricity, phone, transportation,toilet paper, shampoo, feminine products, laundry , dish soap, etc etc etc. And you have to aswer personal questions and have your life scrutinized.

I used to work with homeless women and children, I had to fill out Federally and state required paperwork The questions asked were so intrusive but they answered them no problem because they were used to having their lives scrutinized. Many homeless are second or third generation homeless. I retired early as I could not emotionally take it anymore. I worked evenings and weekends trying to help . That was beyond my 40 hours a week day hours. The stories would make you weep. It was hard to go to my lovely life and know there were people born into hell.

Girls sexually abused and then having their own child at age 14. Looking for love so a couple more kids by 18. No schooling but have to get a job. The govt pays for 6 weeks of schooling. That usually is CNA. The shifts are the worst, of course. Overnight shifts. Who does daycare for overnight? Even if she can find something, the kids get sick. She has to take time off. Fired,

She gets hooked up with a loser guy who does criminal activity. She loses her housing. She now has to go into slum housing. The landlord knows she will not pay pretty quickly so the rent is outrageous for something that should be demolished.

She cannot pay so she goes to prostitution for a way to get money. Drugs work well to ease the nightmare. This story is told over and over and over again.

I pray that I am never poor. And some of these women came from well to do families who had their own dysfunctions. Alcoholism, drug addiction, infidelities.

 

[wondering25]

So, it wasn't even little Bella's father that alerted LE? Disgraceful.

You act surprised! The baby's bio grandma (bio dad's mom) thought the sketch resembled Bella but just prayed and never reported her suspicion. IMO, in a lopsided way, she protected her son in case he was somehow involved but didnt care that her bio grand daughter was murdered and sent to a salt water grave. MOO This has nothing to do with education, social standing, money, or even a long criminal past. Bio dad and Bio grandma lack the basic instincts necessary to function in a civilized society, imo. I will add that maybe grandma was clever enough to not report her suspicions because she understood her son might be dragged into this.. but then i would be giving her "human" qualities. JMO. Dont even get me started on Bella's mom. Poor Bella, her middle name is HEAVEN spelled backwards.. ironic..MOO. And yes, it is disgraceful and no amount of jail or punishment is adequate, imo.

My opinion only on all of this.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I don't believe a word out of Rachelle Bond's mouth. She has a vested interest to lie, and deny,deny, deny. She knows AAF is a whole lot better than a murder charge. Even her own family member admitted Rachelle is a very angry woman.

If Bella was punched in the stomach so severely to cause death there would be internal and external evidence of that imo. Rachelle didn't say he sat on Bella's stomach she said he beat this beautiful child. If he had punched her so severely he would have to cause trauma of some kind to her internal organs and she would have most likely died from loss of blood if he ruptured her when punching her.

So I think this woman is going to get away with murder. She did what many so called mothers have done in the same situation and blame it all on her drugged out boyfriend. I think they both had physically abused Bella. I hate that she will not be punished equally. SHE was the very one that was supposed to see that Bella remained safe at all times. She wasn't safe... not with her mother nor when she was around Rachelle's boyfriend.

So this mother (gag) says she did not participate in the murder of her daughter yet she helped to cover it up and stored Bella's little body in a freezer inside her own home? How could a mother do that who says they had no involvement in the death of their child? IMO, they couldn't. She is just as involved as he is. How could she stand the thought of knowing beautiful Bella's tiny little body was there if she cared once ounce about her child?

She cared nothing about Bella. Her despicable actions prove that. What she cared about was protecting herself and the wasted lowlife scum she brought into Bella's life.

It sickens me to know Rachelle will really do no hard time for the unforgivable things SHE did to Bella.

IMO

 

[human]

I have no empathy for RB except maybe for something in her life that made her get to where she is. Maybe childhood abuse? If Bella lived, she would probably be very much like RB.

The first child abuse organization was made by the people who were concerned about the welfare of animals. I hope that someday we will stop seeing children as property of parents and see them as people with rights. And one of those rights is to not have to be born to parents who cannot take care of a child--- sterilize.

Why should a child go to a living hell?

 

[KaraKitty]

GOOD MORNING, WSer's!

Does anyone know when the Hearing will be tomorrow? I am in CA and I will get up extra early to stream it if its at 8am or 9am east coast time.

Thanks.

 

[wondering25]

What kind of disability benefits would she receive? Benefits for being a drug addicted, prostitute? I just sometimes loose my temper over these things, I realize drug addiction is serious, and certainly not making lite of it, we have a family member who threw away his entire life, home, kids, job, everything, because of drugs. How was RB, disabled?

ya know.. she wasnt disabled.. she disabled her child.. she disabled society because we had to share the air we breath with HER. She, on the other hand, was perfectly capable of buying cigarettes and stepping outside to have a smoke. (Yeah, i know, she didnt want to subject her child to second hand smoke, whatta mom). I dont think you can get true SSDI and welfare. She may have been getting SSI and welfare, i dunno..SSI is a small amount of supplementary income but not even sure you can get that and a welfare check. Not to be confused with SS that those over 62 can get. Anyway, IMO, her rent was being paid, she was getting food stamps, WIC for the baby, free medical, dental and could also visit local food banks. Boyfriend was probably getting some kind of something too. According to the leases on these welfare ,section 8 housing things.. you can only have living with you the adults who are on the original lease. (and your child of course). So he may have contributed his "income". There used to be an old trick.. the social worker would go into the bathroom of the welfare client and count the toothbrushes during a home visit... then they would know how many) were really living there.

Nothing is going to change. Our outrage is contained within these pages and the system will roll on because too many are on the take.. too many are bleeding hearts.. and state workers need their jobs and will defend their "policies" forever. JMO


Just my opinion only on all of this.

 

[fizzypop]

What kind of disability benefits would she receive? Benefits for being a drug addicted, prostitute? I just sometimes loose my temper over these things, I realize drug addiction is serious, and certainly not making lite of it, we have a family member who threw away his entire life, home, kids, job, everything, because of drugs. How was RB, disabled?

There are lots of reasons people get disability. Most of them are mental health issues. You have to go through a long process and have things verified by a doctor before being approved. Most people are denied the first time and need a lawyer to appeal. Here in MN those on public assistance can receive the assistance of an attorney who contracted with the county to help people with disability appeals for free. This is because the state wants to get everyone on federal dollars before using state dollars. I believe chemical dependency is a category for receiving disability, but when I worked for the county I rarely saw this. I'd say about 75% of disability reports I saw were for mental problems. Of course that's just my estimate and experience I have no idea what the real statistic is.

My guess is that she was receiving $600-1200 a month in disability benefits (this would depend on how much she had worked prior to being declared disabled... if I had to guess I'd say she was at the lower end, but that's totally MOO), lived in subsidized housing, and received food and medical assistance. I've seen people on disability whose living expenses were maybe $200 a month or less out of pocket.

I used to be all about drug testing for welfare recipients but the fact is that doesn't do much. When they have done it I think only 6 or 7% came up positive. Could be that most people on welfare are not using drugs (most aren't and use the system honestly) and that drug users can be clever and have developed ways of getting around testing. In the end when they have imposed drug testing for welfare it's not been cost-effective.

 

[audge86]

An article posted earlier said RB previously said she was bipolar. She'd get disability for that.

I can't believe addicts as bad as RB and MM made it to 40 and 35 years old

 

[KaraKitty]

I have a child with a speech and language delay and let me say...it is rough. I can see someone with very little patience just snapping because of it. It's scary to think about.

I have a similar situation with one of my children. He will be 3 in December and his speech is delayed. I brought this up with his pediatrician at his 18 month check up and we decided to wait to see if he had more words by age 2 before any further testing. At his 2 year well visit with only some improvement, the doctor decided to have him evaluated by early intervention, which we did. If RB had these concerns about her daughter i wonder if she told the pediatrician, which leads me to my bigger question: if she ever took Bella to the doctor and when the last appointment was. I'm sure they are collecting those records as we speak.

Slightly O/T but not really. Mollyandme, that is EXACTLY the scenario I am in with my daughter. I know when we first got that diagnosis, even though I KNEW it was what the dr. was going to say, I felt like somehow I failed my dd in some way, and that it was my fault since I stay at home with her. I wonder if RB felt that way? Or was she just angry at the extra level of frustrations that it was something else she had to deal with? There have been times where my daughter is trying to speak to me and it's so frustrating because sometimes I just can't figure out what she is trying to say, and those times can be trying. But not because I am angry, or that she is frustrated, but because I feel like I should know!

I will say we enrolled her in a hearing school(even though she is a typical hearing child) which she goes to twice a week, then we meet with a speech apraxia specialist twice a week as well and we are almost at the point of not needing them! It's so amazing to hear her start talking, and I wish you both the best of luck as you are tackling this! Do yall work with the state program EIC? If so do you know if they are mandated reporters? I know here they came to our house, but could only come once every two weeks. While I doubt RB pursued any help for this, if she did I will be so disheartened if little Bella was let down by another adult.

To AmyPond, Mollyandme, Dogface, I feel all your pain as when my son was not speaking until almost 2.5 years it was frustrating. He knew what he wanted but he had me playing the guessing games. His older brother did allot of talking for him. We took him to so many specialists. They all said he is fine. He will talk when he is ready and he feels like it. Finally, he starts talking about age 2.5yo. While we were thrilled he started talking, no one could understand a word he said. I enrolled him in Speech lessons through the public school systems in Worcester. OMG, OMG, it was AMAZING. The city did a whole ED PLAN on my son and he went to Speech paid by the State for 3 years. He continued Speech lessons through K. AMAZING.

TODAY.....my son is an Attorney and works on Capitol Hill for a Congressman.

Yup, you all struggling with your little ones, hang in there. It WILL get better.


My comments on BELLA, in the video, I think she is all reserved when RB is filming and screaming at her to "LOOK" ... simply because she just woke up. Bella was probably overwhelmed to wake up from her nap seeing all those decorations......either that OR RB decided to WAKE her and show her and that would put her in a fog. Bella, like everyone else needed time to really wake up. Instead RB is spraying her with silly string and screaming LOOK LOOK LOOK. ugh ugh ugh.

Also upthread there was some discussions that RB might have MISSED a birthday.......hmmmm, I wonder if that is true? AND Bella is older than 2.5yo. Does anyone know her actual birthdate?

AND I just realized looking and reading back in this thread.....the pic of that SWEETEST BABY DOLL wearing the grey little top, the same pic that Boston Police had of Bella at the News Conference on Friday......Bella is wearing those little polka dot leggings, the same ones LE found her in. The same ones on the Billboards. OMG, rips my heart out. OMG.