MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #5

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  • #341
I wish that man who stayed with them had reported the neglect he witnessed way before it was too late, I'm sure he questions himself daily, even maybe blames himself. Of course it isn't his fault but still, some common sense wouldn't have went a miss.

I read an article that I'm looking for that says after Sprinsky moved out after a week or two he did check in with MM and RB and they told him DCF had taken her and he believed them knowing RB's other two were taken away.

RB last week told Sprinsky she had been off drugs for a few days, he said he was happy for her and now she could get Bella back from DCF. RB broke down and said that's not really what happened and MM had killed her. Sprinsky texted MM who texted back "who you going to believe me or that crackhead prostitute" Sprinsky texted him back "rot in hell" his sister showed him missing Baby Doe then they notified authorities.
 
  • #342
This guy looks big. I'm sure it didn't take much strength to kill baby Bella. Being high he probably had superman strength and was easily angered just as mommy dearest.

That's one of the reasons I question the story about him punching her "several times" in the stomach. Bella was only 30 lbs, if he went into a rage and punched her several times I would expect some visible damage, broken ribs etc...

I think it was fabricated, and maybe RB claimed it happened while Bella was lying on the floor to explain why there were no other injuries or broken bones. I also find it strange that internal injuries of that type would cause what sounds like "instantaneous death", RB walks in and MM is standing over a dead baby with a grey face.

The whole thing sounds like complete BS. Usually when caretakers are involved in this sort of death they claim "the baby fell". Why didn't RB go with that? Because she knew MM would point the finger at her so she came up with a story to accuse him first?
 
  • #343
That means nothing to me. Look at Charles Manson and followers.. Other murderers throughout history have committed their crimes while high and intoxicated and don't remember all the exact details and sometimes no memory at all. Most murderers are high on something when they commit crimes. Gives them the power to do it. This guy looks big. I'm sure it didn't take much strength to kill baby Bella. Being high he probably had superman strength and was easily angered just as mommy dearest.

Yeah I was actually agreeing with you haha

Oh never mind...

End of the day, I believe they are both jointly at blame for what happened. What I was merely pointing out was how he looks or how he acts in court is NOT a portrayal of him in day to day life before all this yet people on here are going on this as if to deminish somehow his involvement and have it more vented toward RB...I think they are both as evil as each other and they were both on the warped out agreement that baby bella was possessed & all that CRAP.
 
  • #344
I do not believe that MM is innocent by a long shot, but I don't see him as a mastermind or controlling over RB. There has to be evidence in which to charge him with murder and her as accessory, other than just RB's word, but I just don't get that vibe in the body language of either of them.


IMO, the police want a conviction to close the case. They are willing to bargain with RB.. get her to present her story, true or false, convict MM, throw him in the slammer for life and give RB an accessory after the fact charge as a bargaining chip and after she gets out of jail she will eventually kill herself with drugs. She has told the same story to the lifelong friend and to JA and probably to LE. So, at least 3 times. once they get everyone on the stand MM's lawyer will look for inconsistencies among the 3 versions.. IMO, RB was right there watching Mm kill the baby or she wouldnt know how the baby died. Punching to the stomach is specific..Have we heard a direct quote that said " MM told me he punched her in the stomach"? Even if we have.. how would she really know for sure? It would actually be more believable if she said "He told me he shook her hard". Both of them kept the baby in a refrigerator.. i have no doubt.. the smell was getting bad every time they went in to get a beer and they had to do something. A day or 2 in the water then exposed to the heat of late June on a beach would cause rapid deterioration of an already decomposing body.

IMO, in order to get a conviction in a case where both are pointing fingers, the cops had to make a deal with the devil.. and they did. JMO

Just my opinion on everything I write.
 
  • #345
She has told the same story to the lifelong friend and to JA and probably to LE. So, at least 3 times. once they get everyone on the stand MM's lawyer will look for inconsistencies among the 3 versions.

I think you are right. I also think MM's defense attorney will have a field day when he gets RB onto the stand, she has a nasty history and that would be allowed in, wouldn't it? He will also likely rip the "friend" to shreds as well.

None of these folks are little angels, if this goes to trial it should be very interesting.

Plus if they can't prove the body was in the apartment at the same time MM was there then what evidence do they really have proving MM did it? For all we know RB killed Bella and told MM DFC took her (assuming of course MM hasn't already made a statement implicating himself).
 
  • #346
I think you are right. I also think MM's defense attorney will have a field day when he gets RB onto the stand, she has a nasty history and that would be allowed in, wouldn't it? He will also likely rip the "friend" to shreds as well.

None of these folks are little angels, if this goes to trial it should be very interesting.

Plus if they can't prove the body was in the apartment at the same time MM was there then what evidence do they really have proving MM did it? For all we know RB killed Bella and told MM DFC took her (assuming of course MM hasn't already made a statement implicating himself).

I was thinking this today. For all we know he didn't have anything to do with her death, maybe she did tell him Child Svcs had Bella.

That being said, this is sickening.
 
  • #347
I myself think maybe they locked her in the closet for crying, hollering because of hunger, thirsty, soiled diapers whatever. It could have been very hot and not much air eventually she fell asleep, never woke up. When they finally checked on her she was dead. RB's story lets her off the hook puts it all on MM. I think RB searched the Internet on how not to be charged in a murder.

I don't believe Mom's story because one time she said when she walked in Bella's face was gray another time red. Lady get your story straight especially when you think your daughter was dead.

Bella's Godmother and ex-friend of RB said she does whatever she wants and no one can stop her. The only thing she doesn't want is to go to jail. Probably because she would lose her disability and welfare benefits along with her apt. I believe those stop when your arrested.

This is what I think happened to Caylee Anthony. She suffocated. Casey used her car trunk as a babysitter for Caylee and duct taped her mouth shut while she partied it up.

Deakin noted ME says possible suffocation and no known trauma!!
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/21/us/boston-baby-doe-charges/
 
  • #348
IMO, the police want a conviction to close the case. They are willing to bargain with RB.. get her to present her story, true or false, convict MM, throw him in the slammer for life and give RB an accessory after the fact charge as a bargaining chip and after she gets out of jail she will eventually kill herself with drugs. She has told the same story to the lifelong friend and to JA and probably to LE. So, at least 3 times. once they get everyone on the stand MM's lawyer will look for inconsistencies among the 3 versions.. IMO, RB was right there watching Mm kill the baby or she wouldnt know how the baby died. Punching to the stomach is specific..Have we heard a direct quote that said " MM told me he punched her in the stomach"? Even if we have.. how would she really know for sure? It would actually be more believable if she said "He told me he shook her hard". Both of them kept the baby in a refrigerator.. i have no doubt.. the smell was getting bad every time they went in to get a beer and they had to do something. A day or 2 in the water then exposed to the heat of late June on a beach would cause rapid deterioration of an already decomposing body.

IMO, in order to get a conviction in a case where both are pointing fingers, the cops had to make a deal with the devil.. and they did. JMO

Just my opinion on everything I write.

Yes ^^^^^^^ This! I think the lifelong friend of MM gave him a chance to tell his side of the story and MM stuck with CPS took her. Obviously there was some planning about how to dispose of the body and where. Where did they get a contractor garbage bag? The friend recognized the zebra stripe blanket, but according to what was said in court yesterday, there were 2 blankets found with Bella. What's the story behind that and will LE use that to determine who is telling the truth?

I would have love to have been a fly on their wall (and I'm sure these creeps had flies aplenty) when the Baby Doe story broke and then the composite picture was put out. These two goober heads probably flipped out when they realized their attempt to get rid of evidence washed up on Deer Island for the world to see. I hope their heads spun around like they were possessed.
 
  • #349
I worked with a lady when I was a waitress who went to the methadone clinic everyday and also took Xanax her voice had the same quality. When I first heard her voice I immediately knew she was on methadone.
Methadone mind makes people as disgusting as possible. I can't believe it is a viable public option. Methadone junkie are as bad off as they always were.

Maybe she was on methadone but then supposedly MM injected her in the jugular to keep her docile.. . The methadone would have stopped as soon as she had a dirty urine. People on methadone are not supposed to have druggies in their life.. well..we know how that goes. i had to laugh when MM's lawyer said he was a recovering drug addict. REALLY..2 days or however long he was in the hospital for his abscesses?? Does that qualify? Talk about trying to paint him in a different light!

Both lawyers will have a huge task ahead of them. You take your clients as you find them.. their "character witnesses"and various informants who spoke with RB are going to be a pack of creeps similar to the defendants. IMO when they testify in court there is not going to be a car full of nuns jumping out to sing the praises of MM and RB. Uphill battle all the way, jmo. Lawyers have to only show reasonable doubt as to who killed the baby. Look at the posts here on WS.. most of us all think it was RB! I rest my case! MOO

Everything i write is just my opinion.
 
  • #350
Yes ^^^^^^^ This! I think the lifelong friend of MM gave him a chance to tell his side of the story and MM stuck with CPS took her. Obviously there was some planning about how to dispose of the body and where. Where did they get a contractor garbage bag? The friend recognized the zebra stripe blanket, but according to what was said in court yesterday, there were 2 blankets found with Bella. What's the story behind that and will LE use that to determine who is telling the truth?

I would have love to have been a fly on their wall (and I'm sure these creeps had flies aplenty) when the Baby Doe story broke and then the composite picture was put out. These two goober heads probably flipped out when they realized their attempt to get rid of evidence washed up on Deer Island for the world to see. I hope their heads spun around like they were possessed.

You can get them at Home Depot and lowes

http://www.homedepot.com/b/Cleaning-Trash-Recycling-Trash-
Refuse-Bags/N-5yc1vZcb24

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  • #351
According to the complaint, police interviewed McCarthy on Friday, and he told them that Bond had said the state took Bella sometime around Easter. He didn't know the details, the complaint said, but he called Bond "a good mother" and described Bella's living conditions as "safe and appropriate."

When police told him that his story differed from Bond's, McCarthy said Bond might be trying to "save her own 🤬🤬🤬," denied having anything to do with Bella's death and requested a lawyer.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/21/us/boston-baby-doe-charges/

EASTER! McCarthy is saying Bond told him the state took Bella at Easter. Wow! These people are nuts!!!
 
  • #352
I don't know why, but it seems like MM is seen as this big puppy dog. He killed a child, but he's apparently not as bad as someone who didn't? The craziest thing is there was a case where dads girlfriend killed the child and there was so much sympathy for dad, no anger or blame towards him.
 
  • #353
Do you think Rachel Bond made a special trip to Lowe's or Home Depot for those contractor bags or she had a roll cart like the one you have pictured and the bags were on hand?
 
  • #354
I worked with a lady when I was a waitress who went to the methadone clinic everyday and also took Xanax her voice had the same quality. When I first heard her voice I immediately knew she was on methadone.
Methadone mind makes people as disgusting as possible. I can't believe it is a viable public option. Methadone junkie are as bad off as they always were.

O/t. Methadone clinics are a huge scam. You can read about the different busts on the net, People are getting rich making these clinics
 
  • #355
At this point I dont think any deal has been made. LE has them both exactly where they want them and need to be. Why make a deal before the Investigation is complete. I am sure there has been and still ongoing work to be done. Lets hope evidence tells the real story. If it doesn't a deal may be down the pike. I pray not. Bella deserves justice and both these people should be off the streets forever IMO
 
  • #356
I don't know why, but it seems like MM is seen as this big puppy dog. He killed a child, but he's apparently not as bad as someone who didn't? The craziest thing is there was a case where dads girlfriend killed the child and there was so much sympathy for dad, no anger or blame towards him.

My point exactly......thank you button wasn't enough.
 
  • #357
Maybe she was on methadone but then supposedly MM injected her in the jugular to keep her docile.. . The methadone would have stopped as soon as she had a dirty urine. People on methadone are not supposed to have druggies in their life.. well..we know how that goes. i had to laugh when MM's lawyer said he was a recovering drug addict. REALLY..2 days or however long he was in the hospital for his abscesses?? Does that qualify? Talk about trying to paint him in a different light!

Both lawyers will have a huge task ahead of them. You take your clients as you find them.. their "character witnesses"and various informants who spoke with RB are going to be a pack of creeps similar to the defendants. IMO when they testify in court there is not going to be a car full of nuns jumping out to sing the praises of MM and RB. Uphill battle all the way, jmo. Lawyers have to only show reasonable doubt as to who killed the baby. Look at the posts here on WS.. most of us all think it was RB! I rest my case! MOO

Everything i write is just my opinion.

Thanks wondering25. That's a good post. Like all of us here all kinds of theories are running through our sleuthing heads. Lol. This is just so hard for any normal loving person to fathom. It's so hard to believe we have monsters that live amongst us.

She is in such a better place away from those awful things, not human who surrounded and tortured her. Heaven has a new angel I'm sure she is at peace [emoji72]

I'm going to call my grown boys now and tell them how much I love them.
 
  • #358
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Bond was afraid she was an “accomplice to murder” and accused McCarthy of repeatedly “punching her in the stomach until she stopped breathing,” according to the trooper’s report of the Sprinsky interview.. [/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, serif]Unless she saw this how would she know it was repeatedly? She knows because she was there and saw it .. Do you think MM said " i repeatedly punched her in the stomach?" She saw the whole thing and participated.. she knows and helped or did it alone. ..JMO

[/FONT]http://www.masslive.com/news/boston/index.ssf/2015/09/bella_bond_tip_that_led_to_arrests.html

Anything i write is just my opinion.
 
  • #359
According to the complaint, police interviewed McCarthy on Friday, and he told them that Bond had said the state took Bella sometime around Easter. He didn't know the details, the complaint said, but he called Bond "a good mother" and described Bella's living conditions as "safe and appropriate."

When police told him that his story differed from Bond's, McCarthy said Bond might be trying to "save her own 🤬🤬🤬," denied having anything to do with Bella's death and requested a lawyer.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/21/us/boston-baby-doe-charges/

EASTER! McCarthy is saying Bond told him the state took Bella at Easter. Wow! These people are nuts!!!

Wow indeed. If he said all that at the hospital and he was LYING he is a whole lot smarter now then when they "both" took the body and dropped it in the water (really stupid method of hiding a 30 lb body).

I think he is telling the truth. I don't think he participated in all of the stupidity up until that point and then SUDDENLY had his IQ jump 30 points when the police came in to question him.
 
  • #360
Please excuse my ignorance of the legal system. I have just a couple of questions to ask you all. At the arraignment yesterday, was that to present evidence of why MM was charged with this crime, leading to the discussion of what his bail should be? With RB, I get that she pretty much confessed to her charge and why she was there, but I just didn't hear any evidence supporting the claim of murder for MM other than the totally unreliable word of RB. That entire story could be a total fabrication to throw the blame on someone other than herself, because I haven't heard a single bit of physical evidence pointing towards when, how or where the baby died, nor any evidence saying he helped dispose of the little one. So, I guess my question is am I missing something, or is that just the way the system works, and more evidence of why he should be charged will come in the Grand Jury proceedings?
 
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