MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #6

[gcharlie]

A couple of people asked what happened to JA's wife/girlfriend in Florida. She apparently died in a car crash. I don't think it's an appropriate topic for discussion as he's not a suspect and it doesn't have anything to do with Bella, but that's apparently what happened.

Not a wife and many years prior.

 

[suzyq211]

From LaurieJ's article and link :tyou:

According to officials, McCarthy, being represented by attorney Jonathan Shapiro, punched Bella in the stomach repeatedly sometime in May and put her in a refrigerator for a few days while he and Bella’s mother used heroin. However, investigators have not yet given a cause of death. There is speculation she may have been suffocated before being punched. McCarthy and Bond then allegedly put Bella in a duffle bag and dumped her in Boston Harbor. Bella floated to Deer Island where she was found.

McCarthy, who claimed he killed Bella because she was possessed, was arrested at Beth Israel Hospital where he was being treated for an abcess.

http://www.winthroptranscript.com/2...but-winthrop-will-be-her-final-resting-place/

He punched Bella after he suffocated her? And MM is now admitting he killed Bella?

I don't know if we will ever know what this little angel endured at the hands of these two subhumans' hands.

I am thinking this is the story gave by RB, the way it is written is confusing. MM AFAIK has not admitted to anything.

 

[Bobbywoo]

This whole case reminds me too darn much of another baby that was blessed with a pitiful excuse for a mother. I'm hoping this baby gets the justice that baby CA didn't get.

WAY too many mothers like that. I'm also following the Lonzie Barton case....heartbreaking.

 

[Bobbywoo]

A couple of people asked what happened to JA's wife/girlfriend in Florida. She apparently died in a car crash. I don't think it's an appropriate topic for discussion as he's not a suspect and it doesn't have anything to do with Bella, but that's apparently what happened.

OMG! So sad. That may explain how he wanted so badly, imo, to believe RB and reunite his family. Maybe it was an awakening for him?

 

[wondering25]

lol! I wish I knew. Birds of a feather? ? ? How did she and McCarthy find each other? I'm thinking RB wouldn't have killed Bella by herself, but then she met MM and somehow the combination of the two allowed the evil to take over and murdered poor Bella. Good Grief! And, of all the women who try to get pregnant and can't... and then we have a prostitute and drug user who turns out to be Fertile Myrtle! It baffles me!

Thank God they find each other and leave a normal person alone.. that being said.. when 2 people like this find each other they often form a third personality.. things they would never do alone, they manage to do when the 2 evil personalities combine. MOO

Anything i write is just my opinion.

 

[gcharlie]

OMG! So sad. That may explain how he wanted so badly, imo, to believe RB and reunite his family. Maybe it was an awakening for him?

I for one, am not taken in by BioDad.

TOS says we can't sleuth him, so I can't say anything more than what is being reported by the press. BioDad had at least 1,138 days to do right by his child and longer than that if you start counting when he learned he had fathered a child. He arrived in the Boston area at the end of August, yet did not doggedly pursue being able to ensure the welfare of his child.

As was pointed out by one of the higher people associated with the investigation, he has no criminal liability in this case, but certainly he had a moral responsibility to come forward as soon as he learned that a child, in fact, his child, was dead.

I won't say more for risk of not being able to post. :silenced::furious:

 

[Steleheart]

I for one, am not taken in by BioDad.

TOS says we can't sleuth him, so I can't say anything more than what is being reported by the press. BioDad had at least 1,138 days to do right by his child and longer than that if you start counting when he learned he had fathered a child. He arrived in the Boston area at the end of August, yet did not doggedly pursue being able to ensure the welfare of his child.

As was pointed out by one of the higher people associated with the investigation, he has no criminal liability in this case, but certainly he had a moral responsibility to come forward as soon as he learned that a child, in fact, his child, was dead.

I won't say more for risk of not being able to post. :silenced::furious:

Thanks. Also as far as we know he is only the father because we have been told that. He was told that. For all we know the prostitute may have already been pregnant before she hooked up with him in the tent at Occupy Boston.

IMO the ME will not release the body based on hearsay and they absolutely have the ability to do a paternity test to determine if he is, in fact, the next of kin.
Until that is done I find it hard to get on board, but IF they do that and he is the father, the state can then hold him liable for back child support.

Based on that plausibility he may yet change his story again. I don't mind not discussing his SM or Family background but what they put in front of the cameras is free fodder for discussion. And there's plenty, LOL

MOO

 

[Xara]

Maybe I am mistaken, but if his name is on the birth certificate then he is legally the father unless he contests it.

 

[Sonya610]

Maybe I am mistaken, but if his name is on the birth certificate then he is legally the father.

Not in MA. A while back someone here posted a flyer on establishing paternity in MA. The father has to fill out a form at the hospital when the baby is born or later fill out some other gov paperwork.

Another article had some official saying since JA hasn't been established as the biological father yet the body would not be released to him. Maybe that is why they say it will take a couple of weeks for the body to be released.

 

[gcharlie]

Maybe I am mistaken, but if his name is on the birth certificate then he is legally the father.

He was not present for the birth. Without his approval, his name cannot be put on the birth certificate under Massachusetts law.

 

[Xara]

Not in MA. A while back someone here posted a flyer on establishing paternity in MA. The father has to fill out a form at the hospital when the baby is born or later fill out some other gov paperwork.

He likely never had to pay child support either especially living in FL.

Okay, I stand corrected then.

 

[Bootsctr]

Thanks. Also as far as we know he is only the father because we have been told that. He was told that. For all we know the prostitute may have already been pregnant before she hooked up with him in the tent at Occupy Boston.

IMO the ME will not release the body based on hearsay and they absolutely have the ability to do a paternity test to determine if he is, in fact, the next of kin.
Until that is done I find it hard to get on board, but IF they do that and he is the father, the state can then hold him liable for back child support.

Based on that plausibility he may yet change his story again. I don't mind not discussing his SM or Family background but what they put in front of the cameras is free fodder for discussion. And there's plenty, LOL

MOO

I kept thinking JA was going to talk himself right into jail with charges of concealing the knowledge of a crime from authorities since he chose to spend family time with RB on the beach instead of immediately going to the authorities and taking RB with him. Now.... if there had been a reward.... Maybe he would have.... uke:

 

[Bobbywoo]

I for one, am not taken in by BioDad.

TOS says we can't sleuth him, so I can't say anything more than what is being reported by the press. BioDad had at least 1,138 days to do right by his child and longer than that if you start counting when he learned he had fathered a child. He arrived in the Boston area at the end of August, yet did not doggedly pursue being able to ensure the welfare of his child.

As was pointed out by one of the higher people associated with the investigation, he has no criminal liability in this case, but certainly he had a moral responsibility to come forward as soon as he learned that a child, in fact, his child, was dead.

I won't say more for risk of not being able to post. :silenced::furious:

I ABSOLUTELY agree with you. I simply couldn't figure out how he could even remotely accept RB's story as true. This explains it a little bit in my head but does not make it right in the least. I'm a product of a dead beat dad, so he gets NO sympathy from me!

 

[Sonya610]

I kept thinking JA was going to talk himself right into jail with charges of concealing the knowledge of a crime from authorities since he chose to spend family time with RB on the beach instead of immediately going to the authorities and taking RB with him. Now.... if there had been a reward.... Maybe he would have.... uke:

This could be totally off base but.... JA strikes me as putting up a very "macho" front. He could have thought about killing MM when he heard the story and that might be why he didn't rush to the police.

Not saying that to criticize JA, I think a fair number of folks would ponder that option if a close loved one was murdered by someone they know.

 

[Bobbywoo]

Thank God they find each other and leave a normal person alone.. that being said.. when 2 people like this find each other they often form a third personality.. things they would never do alone, they manage to do when the 2 evil personalities combine. MOO

Anything i write is just my opinion.

This is so true. Almost like they feed off of each other and their bad actions keep escalating and escalating.

 

[lauriej]

http://www.pressherald.com/2015/09/26/baby-bellas-case-a-challenge-for-massachusetts-governor/
[h=1]Baby Bella’s case a challenge for Massachusetts governor[/h] Before being elected, Charlie Baker responded to child deaths by demanding state agency resignations; now he's blaming policy.

 

[gcharlie]

This could be totally off base but.... JA strikes me as putting up a very "macho" front. He could have thought about killing MM when he heard the story and that might be why he didn't rush to the police.

Not saying that to criticize JA, I think a fair number of folks would ponder that option if a close loved one was murdered by someone they know.

Nah, his latest to the press is that he knew LE was all over it, warrants had been issued. In other words, why bother? It was all gonna come down, according to his last interview. But stick around, because that could all change with his next interview with the press.

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[Steleheart]

Nah, his latest to the press is that he knew LE was all over it, warrants had been issued. In other words, why bother? It was all gonna come down, according to his last interview. But stick around, because that could all change with his next interview with the press.

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MOO

 

[Bootsctr]

This could be totally off base but.... JA strikes me as putting up a very "macho" front. He could have thought about killing MM when he heard the story and that might be why he didn't rush to the police.

Not saying that to criticize JA, I think a fair number of folks would ponder that option if a close loved one was murdered by someone they know.

No, in hindsight, I think you're batting 100. LE must have put a guard on MM as soon as Sprinsky tipped them off and while they were tracking down RB.

Myself, I would have had a hard time keeping my hands off RB's throat. I wonder if we will see a replay of what she told JA and lots of crocodile tears if she is put on the stand. She's the master of deception and manipulation. She and CA could be sisters!!

 

[Sonya610]

Boggles my mind that some people here are trying to rationalize his actions.

I wasn't trying to rationalize or make excuses for JA, I just thought the possibility may have crossed his mind. Maybe I was just projecting, I would likely think through all of the options before I called 911.