MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #6

[human]

My mom calls me monkey and has from birth. It is just a pet name. Apparently I looked like a monkey when I was born.

Not that it matters. I still can't stand RB or her nasty voice. But just saying

O/t . Have you seen the video with Monkey the cat? The funniest thing ever

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oEcTmco0pk

 

[Sonya610]

Correct me if I am wrong, but even the jury concluded that James Holmes, a diagnosed schizophrenic, knew right from wrong because of the extensive planning in his journals? I don't think anyone is going to cut him slack if he claims insanity. Clearly they both know right from wrong in their actions... I think they're both bat-**** crazy, but they definitely knew they killed Bella and had to hide the evidence.

I don't think he will have to claim insanity. So far they have NO EVIDENCE and when things get all factual in front of a jury evidence WILL matter.

 

[heartgoesout]

Much of the media reporting is wrong, half done and misinterpreted. I can read between the lines between fact and fiction and opinion.

 

[Sonya610]

Much of the media reporting is wrong, half done and misinterpreted. I can read between the lines between fact and fiction and opinion.

When the local media has a very high profile case without any facts they tend to go overboard on emotion and spin/stretch to create stories in order to feed the audience and maintain interest.

They will interview anyone or anything that may say a few words to justify another story. This is a nationwide headline and the local reporters will find SOMETHING to report.

 

[Steleheart]

I am curious about the next of kin issue.

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/30...a-bonds-funeral-after-mother-charged-in-death
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"BOSTON (MyFoxBoston.com) - Bella Bond's remains are still at the medical examiner's office in Boston and according to the Suffolk county District Attorney that’s where they will remain during the nvestigation and legal precedings. "

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"Amoroso is most likely Bella's legal next of kin, according to the DA, and will likely be the one who
makes the decision about when and where Bella is buried once the medical examiner's office releases her."

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The actual next of kin would be the Mother I would think? She is still alive and hasn't been convicted of anything. And even if she is convicted would she not still have the legal right to determine who buries her child and where? Have her parental rights been terminated simply because she was arrested as accessory? Under what statute?

Does this mean that Bella is being retained through the legal preceedings in order to determine who has authority to bury her?

 

[human]

I am curious about the next of kin issue.

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/30...a-bonds-funeral-after-mother-charged-in-death
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"BOSTON (MyFoxBoston.com) - Bella Bond's remains are still at the medical examiner's office in Boston and according to the Suffolk county District Attorney that&#8217;s where they will remain during the nvestigation and legal precedings. "

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"Amoroso is most likely Bella's legal next of kin, according to the DA, and will likely be the one who
makes the decision about when and where Bella is buried once the medical examiner's office releases her."

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The actual next of kin would be the Mother I would think? She is still alive and hasn't been convicted of anything. And even if she is convicted would she not still have the legal right to determine who buries her child and where? Have her parental rights been terminated simply because she was arrested as accessory? Under what statute?

Does this mean that Bella is being retained through the legal preceedings in order to determine who has authority to bury her?

Very weird. Is he adjudicated that he is the father? I doubt that anyone will rise up and challenge it, but things are supposed to be legal. What is bio dad's game in that he is not going to be tested? He doesn't want his DNA on file for some reason? Very weird.

 

[Sonya610]

Does this mean that Bella is being retained through the legal preceedings in order to determine who has authority to bury her?

Pretty sure that is what it means, it was already mentioned before by another authority (saw the video but can't locate).

They are running a DNA test to determine whether JA is the father (next of kin) and when/if that comes back positive they will release the body to him.

The actual next of kin would be the Mother I would think? She is still alive and hasn't been convicted of anything. And even if she is convicted would she not still have the legal right to determine who buries her child and where? Have her parental rights been terminated simply because she was arrested as accessory? Under what statute?

Well...she is in jail and can't arrange nor pay for the burial. Burials require money/payment, and if you can't pay for it you let the body go unclaimed and it is given a paupers grave/cremation. JA apparently wants to claim the body.

Therefore they are confirming next of kin, JA, so that he CAN legally transfer the body and arrange burial (which has pretty much already been donated).

 

[Sonya610]

If JA refused a DNA test (I don't think he did, but if he did for whatever reason) then we know RB's sister is alive and she could step in as next of kin.

Very weird. Is he adjudicated that he is the father? I doubt that anyone will rise up and challenge it, but things are supposed to be legal. What is bio dad's game in that he is not going to be tested? He doesn't want his DNA on file for some reason? Very weird.

He isn't being forced to give DNA as a suspect, so legally it would not be entered into a criminal database. It would go to a lab that confirms paternity.

 

[wondering25]

Pretty sure that is what it means, it was already mentioned before by another authority (saw the video but can't locate).

They are running a DNA test to determine whether JA is the father (next of kin) and when/if that comes back positive they will release the body to him.



Well...she is in jail and can't arrange nor pay for the burial. Burials require money/payment, and if you can't pay for it you let the body go unclaimed and it is given a paupers grave/cremation. JA apparently wants to claim the body.

Therefore they are confirming next of kin, JA, so that he CAN legally transfer the body and arrange burial (which has pretty much already been donated).

RB had legal custody of the baby. The father was unnamed. In a family (when the parents are married to each other), either parent can claim the body because both parents are the next of kin. When there is a divorce one parent is usually granted primary physical custody of the child.. sometimes joint custody is ordered so that decisions are made by both parents. But one parent usually does have primary physical custody. Anyway, in this case, RB has been convicted of nothing and she would have to give consent to have the baby released to JA, i would think.
I find it hard to believe that the body will be buried anytime soon.. and IF JA is found thru DNA to be the dad, the state of Massachusetts will be after his behind for all kinds of back support..I will be willing to wager he wont be giving his DNA anytime soon. MOO

Anything i write is just my opinion.

 

[tlcya]

I don't see RB burying her daughter as her top priority at the moment. It is my personal opinion that she has much bigger fish to fry and won't fight JA receiving the remains. Again, strictly opinion.

 

[Bobbywoo]

He didn't know for a week!

He is not doing a media tour. He is being surrounded by them. He's just naive at this point that everything he is saying is being misreported and a bit skewed. He'll catch on soon.

I genuinely feel his dismay. He knows he messed up.

I agree, but maybe I'm a not as kind as you when I try to figure out his actions. I honestly think he is dumber than a box of rocks and like you said he will eventually catch on. He's trying to "be there for his family "as much as he can now.....but it's WAY too little too late. I think he sees himself as being calm and reasonable but many of us want to shake some sense into him. I do not like him in the least for his past actions and I think he is too mentally "slow" to really absorb what is happening now. I think when the cameras are gone and reality kicks in he is truely going to feel the heartbreak.

 

[BUF]

The problem with that is that it's the reporter who's written "more than a week ago" and I think they were going by other articles which had loosely stated "the end of last week". But, if you add up all the stories together, it seems that "the end of last week" was the end of the week in which the police were notified and performed the arrest, not the previous week, which the reporter of that article had assumed. So the majority of the articles add up to JA finding out after the police had been notified by the tipster, the afternoon/night before Rachelle's arrest.

So it doesn't seem like it was a whole week, it seems more like 12 hours or so. Yes he should have screamed, cried and called the cops, and instead he took her to his mother's house. I don't know what was going through his head, but I don't know what would go through mine if someone told me something like that. I think it if was something that had just happened, I'd call the police straight away. But if it was something that happened three months earlier and I was believing this 'hostage' story, maybe I would say that they could sleep at mine for the night and then I'd go to the police with them in the morning.

It doesn't matter if it was a week or a day or a hour ...he did not report that Bella was murdered after RB told him. He claims he's her father for goodness sake! People were trying to figure out who this unfortunate little girl they found in a plastic bag dumped in the water was...for how long? Poor child...

Wonder how long this would have gone on if LS had not contacted the authorities when she did. Thank goodness she did.

 

[pukasonqo2]

My mom calls me monkey and has from birth. It is just a pet name. Apparently I looked like a monkey when I was born.

Not that it matters. I still can't stand RB or her nasty voice. But just saying

same here, i always called my daughter "mona" (monkey in spanish), she looked like a little monkey when she was born


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[pukasonqo2]

what would happen if JA is not the father? just thinking aloud at the moment




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[heartgoesout]

The father has been named.

The paternal grandmother was at the hospital when Bella was born and had a relationship with her for half of her life.

Now whether DNA names him the father is yet to be seen.

 

[human]

The father has been named.

The paternal grandmother was at the hospital when Bella was born and had a relationship with her for half of her life.

When one has a relationship with a prostitute, there is no reason to know who the father of a child is. DNA will tell.

I believe the grandmother said 8 months? Is that half of the baby's life?

 

[Bobbywoo]

The father has been named.

The paternal grandmother was at the hospital when Bella was born and had a relationship with her for half of her life.

Now whether DNA names him the father is yet to be seen.

Through DNA? I think Bella looks just like JA....those eyebrows! But then again, I used to watch Maurey all the time and I was wrong 80% of the time. I think grandma would be the most devastated. JA didn't contribute much more to Bella's life beyond sperm. Sad but true, and I think he regrets it now

 

[Bobbywoo]

When one has a relationship with a prostitute, there is no reason to know who the father of a child is. DNA will tell.

I believe the grandmother said 8 months? Is that half of the baby's life?

I often wondered why he didn't question Bella being his daughter. Did he believe every word that came out of RB's mouth back then too? "Yes honey, I was a hooker but I haven't slept with anyone for 3 months" (my words, not hers. I'm trying to imagine how the conversation went).

 

[heartgoesout]

He absolutely questioned if he was the father.
It's probably a contributing factor on his lack of interest in her or the child. He ran as fast as he could when he found out she was a prostitute.
Once his mom formed a relationship and probably started saying she looks just like you and he got his own act cleaned up he was in the early stages of being responsible for Bella. That would have been a long and tedious not to mention expensive process to gain custody of Bella. He probably wouldn't have gained custody anyway with his wrap sheet.

He may never have stepped up. Maybe he would have.

 

[gcharlie]

"Grandma" has been quoted with a lot of conflicting statements.

At this point, who knows what is true?