MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #6

[Bootsctr]

Good Morning. (well it still is in CA)

Ok I have a question about Bella.

I thought I read that RB and MM put 'weights' in the contractor's trash bag with Bella.

Some WS'ers are posting that Bella "floated" to the location where she was found.

So I am guessing that was wrong about bricks (???) in the contractor's trash bag with Bella?



Thanks.

Good afternoon (in Texas anyway

I specifically remember it being said that the bag with Bella was weighted down, but just weights. There was no specification of what the weights were. Sonya (feel better from that headache soon) suggested it could have been rocks. I thought rocks or bricks or weights that are used with weight-lifting equipment.

I do believe Bella floated to Deer Island. Either the weights were in a separate bag and the bag containing Bella somehow broke free from the weighted bag, or they didn't wait the bag down enough. I'm thinking they didn't put enough weight in the bag to prevent it from rising from the gases produced by decomposition and steam. Just my personal thoughts. Someone may have a better explanation than I!

 

[Bootsctr]

I don't remember where the info about the duffel bag and weights came from, whether it was the arraignment hearing or one of the press stories with JA? But what I remember was that RB supposedly said that first Bella was placed in the contractor's bag, then into the duffel bag with weights (so the duffel bag would contain both the weights and the contractor's bag with the body).

^^^^^ That's what I remember from the arraignment hearing. I wonder if divers found any duffel bag??

 

[Bootsctr]

Okay, this is pure conjecture....

I would be interested in what happened between Christmas and Bella's death. Rachelle had a falling out with the godmother. JA has supposedly told media that he wanted to file for custody?

Rachelle's sister has said that Rachelle was very upset when one of Rachelle's older children was at the sister's home when DCF came to take the child away from Rachelle, and she blamed her sister, causing a bit of a rift?

One of the links in the last few pages said that the neighbors at Rachelle's apartment claim that just before Bella disappeared Rachelle was talking a lot about how happy she was to have Bella with her and not taken away by DCF (like her older children were).

How worried might Rachelle have been about losing Bella? Had JA spoken to her on the phone about the possibility of filing for custody? Remember the meme that got so much attention, the one about hiding a body, and the wording Rachelle typed on it (something about "no one threatens my family", to paraphrase).

Could Rachelle have killed Bella because she was scared someone was going to take Bella away from her?

Rachelle Bond quit contacting Patricia Drake (JA's mother) when Bella was 8-months-old and Drake asked Rachelle to submit DNA test to confirm paternity of Joe Amoroso. After this conversation, Rachelle disappeared.

"“I knew something wasn’t right,” Drake said."

She says she contacted DCF and told them she was the grandmother of Bella, but DCF could not or would not give Drake any information about the girl's whereabouts.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...s-not-bella/12EyPq5a5teFqO8527QfBN/story.html

In this article, Drake goes by Patricia Quinn:

""Who would think of this horrible act… a little baby being murdered?" said Patricia Quinn.

She also said she believes Rachelle Bond, Bella's mother, is a liar.

"Everything she said is all lies… all lies," said Quinn.

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/30124429/bella-bonds-grandmother-calls-mother-a-liar

I'm still not sure what the meme was about. I don't think it was meant for JA. I think she posted it thinking about her other 2 children that were taken away from her by DCF, or as someone posted it was just a meme that was going around that people were posting.

As far as when Rachelle and Michael McCarthy hooked up or became friends, I believe it was after Christmas and Rachelle's breakup with the gravedigger BF.

 

[KaraKitty]

I don't remember where the info about the duffel bag and weights came from, whether it was the arraignment hearing or one of the press stories with JA? But what I remember was that RB supposedly said that first Bella was placed in the contractor's bag, then into the duffel bag with weights (so the duffel bag would contain both the weights and the contractor's bag with the body).

Good afternoon (in Texas anyway

I specifically remember it being said that the bag with Bella was weighted down, but just weights. There was no specification of what the weights were. Sonya (feel better from that headache soon) suggested it could have been rocks. I thought rocks or bricks or weights that are used with weight-lifting equipment.

I do believe Bella floated to Deer Island. Either the weights were in a separate bag and the bag containing Bella somehow broke free from the weighted bag, or they didn't wait the bag down enough. I'm thinking they didn't put enough weight in the bag to prevent it from rising from the gases produced by decomposition and steam. Just my personal thoughts. Someone may have a better explanation than I!

^^^^^ That's what I remember from the arraignment hearing. I wonder if divers found any duffel bag??

Thanks, Amonet and Bootsctr.

 

[Amonet]

Rachelle Bond quit contacting Patricia Drake (JA's mother) when Bella was 8-months-old and Drake asked Rachelle to submit DNA test to confirm paternity of Joe Amoroso. After this conversation, Rachelle disappeared.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...s-not-bella/12EyPq5a5teFqO8527QfBN/story.html

That's another one, yes! So there's three or four different, independent sources saying Rachelle was pretty paranoid about losing Bella to DCF. I guess what I'm suggesting is, did she have fears that that day might be coming soon? Or did she fear that JA or his mother might try to get custody? Was she hearing other stuff on the grapevine that someone else might turn her into DCF?

She's terrified of losing another child to DCF. She's posting how Bella completes her life, or something similar, how she really loves this little girl. There's video and pictures of her trying to make fantastic birthdays and Christmases for Bella, even to the point of going rather overboard for that 2nd birthday. She might have abused Bella (according to Spinsky's allegations) but according to Rachelle's sister, Rachelle never learned decent parenting and suffered similar abuse when she was growing up. That she followed that example of shouting at the child or even locking her in a cupboard as punishment doesn't mean she didn't love her...even if 'we' can't meld those two things together, she could.

The words on the meme aren't that dissimilar to what a lot of people would have written. The thing is that the wording sounds very similar to something else I've read reported that Rachelle said...I think it's either something her sister said or it's in the letters Rachelle wrote to her sister from jail when she was expecting Bella (they were published by one of the Boston online newspapers), with very similar wording. So while it might be a pure coincidence that it was on that meme that she used these words, I think it might have been something she was worrying about at the time that led her to write those words, not as a threat to anyone but as an insight into something going on in her mind....maybe that she was terrified of this third chance of having a happy family with a child broken up by losing the child to DCF????

There are so many sources alluding to this fear that I don't know if it's far from the truth. What if it wasn't a crime of passion by either of them, what if RB did it on purpose to make sure no one could take Bella away from her? Then she uses MM as a fall guy and constructs the story of him killing the child out of anger.

If she loved that child as much as she said, and it seems to be true, she should have done more than spend half an hour trying to resuscitate, she should have ran to a neighbor's apartment and banged on the door to use the phone to call an ambulance (assuming her own cellphone wasn't working at the time). That MM killed Bella and RB did nothing except help hide the body is an inconsistency. And on top of this we have 'signs' that RB was the one who put Bella in the bag, with blankets to comfort her, maybe double-bagged to protect the body from decaying in the water...and then a watery grave. None of these things are consistent with the usual modus operandi of a male murderer, and the only allusion to a violent death that we have are RB's accusations against MM, but that doesn't seem to show up in the autopsy as particularly violent, not a beating or throwing against a wall kind of violent.

I know this is just conjecture on my part, I know that, but at the same time it seems to add up so much better than the story we're being sold by RB?

 

[Sonya610]

If she loved that child as much as she said, and it seems to be true, she should have done more than spend half an hour trying to resuscitate

Ummmm...yeah. Plus she would want something very bad happen to the guy that violently beat her little girl to death.

 

[cvaldez1975]

if they didnt clean the fridge well, perhaps.

Would there still be a smell months later?

 

[Amonet]

If RB did try to resuscitate Bella, would there be any DNA around Bella's mouth from RB's saliva? Could the ME check for that?

 

[Bootsctr]

Rachelle Bond is an unfit mother. I don't think there is any other explanation for what happened to Bella Bond other than Rachelle Bond is not capable of caring for and loving a child.

This is a snippet from a decade ago with Rachelle's first daughter and her life then... which is pretty much the same as the one she had with Bella :notgood: :

"On Sunday, neighbors on Devlin Passway in Fitchburg, where Bond lived about a decade ago with her then-boyfriend and a daughter, described her as a drug addict who often neglected her child.

Archie Dutrizac, 42, said Bond lived on the floor above him in a multifamily house for a little more than a year before she was evicted for failing to pay rent.

Dutrizac said that Bond’s boyfriend at the time, whose name he could not recall, sold drugs out of the couple’s apartment. Strangers regularly came and went from their unit, he said.

Dutrizac said Bond often left her daughter on the first floor with his parents, who also lived in the residence, and would not retrieve the girl until 1 or 2 a.m.

“Sometimes she wouldn’t even ask” before leaving the child, said Arthur H. Dutrizac, 80, who still lives in the building.

Archie Dutrizac said his wife once went upstairs to say hello to Bond and witnessed her spanking her daughter after the child had spilled a drink.

“She had a temper,” Dutrizac said. “She didn’t talk to the kid to teach [her] anything.”

He added that when Bond first moved in, she appeared “kind of normal” before her condition worsened because of drug use.

“It just all happened almost at once,” he said.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...vernor-says/9WCwAx72isPkoYwdhWzUjP/story.html

Just my opinion, but she's a spineless subhuman who can't handle real life. You don't spank a child for spilling a drink - you just don't. She's just living for the next fix and the next man in her life who can provide heroin for her.

IF and that is a BIG IF she only stated that McCarthy went to the room to quiet Bella and she walked in and Bella was deceased, I might give her the benefit of the doubt. But, nooooooo, she completely exonerates herself from any involvement or neglect in the child's death. Making up stuff about being drugged for 5 or so months with heroin to the neck, saying MM believed Bella was possessed, witnesses to both MM and RB putting Bella in the closet for punishment... she loses all credibility with me. She's a liar and I think she fully participated in whatever caused Bella's death. If I could have one wish it would be that Rachelle Bond would never see the light of day again.

 

[Sonya610]

If RB did try to resuscitate Bella, would there be any DNA around Bella's mouth from RB's saliva? Could the ME check for that?

If she did chest compressions there would probably be broken ribs.

 

[Bootsctr]

if they didnt clean the fridge well, perhaps.

I hope it is destroyed after the forensic people are through with it.

 

[Amonet]

If she did chest compressions there would probably be broken ribs.

If she tried to do that 'properly' yes, but I don't know how many people know that you have to go hard enough to (often) break the ribs? And it would be terrifying (if you're not a medical professional) to do that on a child? Plus, there was nothing reported about broken ribs. I just wondered if there might be some way to verify that she had at least made some weak attempt at resuscitation to either back up or refute that part of the story....

 

[joypath]

If she did chest compressions there would probably be broken ribs.

BBM:

more than probably, IMO, since I strongly doubt that RB knew correct protocol!

Yep, IF there were epithelial cells from ANYBODY around Bella oral/nasal cavities, they could be tested for DNA. Big problem 'tho: the possible/probable destruction of evidence by the environment! I would ASSUME (wasn't there!) that Bella's entire body was checked via a Wood's lamp (alternate light source) for biological fluids, again with the caveat of the effects of the environment.

 

[joypath]

IIRC, I had heard and read that JA refused testing. What entity would it be up to for the testing? Not LE, IMO, so who? There would be no legal basis for LE to demand JA's DNA because he has not been arrested or accused of a crime. Would it be the ME to demand testing? As far as I know, he/she would not have the legal authority to ask for a DNA test to establish paternity.

Baby Bella's biological mother (hate to call her that) is the bottom line here because even though she has been charged with a crime, she is still innocent until proven guilty and convicted. SHE is the one who will have to sign a legal paper assigning someone to act on her behalf in Baby Bella's funeral plans. She could assign JA without proof of paternity. She could assign her sister. No funeral home is going to handle the funeral without the proper legal paperwork, and that will include RB's signature. My fear is that RB has signed a legal paper stating that JA will act in her behalf in the funeral plans and where Baby Bella is to be interred. Now JA has decided he doesn't believe RB didn't have something to do with Baby Bella's murder. Was that after he got RB to turn the plans over to him? I just feel there is going to be a legal dust up about it.

*Joypath, I know Baby Bella's body is with the ME and that LE alone doesn't have the authority to hold or release the body. However, the ME and LE could agree to hold the body longer. But why would they if all testing that could possibly be done has been done? Thank you so much for your professional input here!

MOO

BBM:

and toss in the DA to that mix, too! WHY hold the body?.........my best guess is that they are so totally cooperating with the defense atty(s) (this will be/is a "high profile case) so any "uncontaminated" defense post(s) can/could be conducted AND also to have the "legal mumbo jumbo" :scared:regarding authority to bury completed!

To the best of my knowledge (& using DH's "collegial contacts" too!), NO ONE has registered a legal "fight" to claim Bella away from RB! NOT ja, maternal grand, sister, paternal grand.....so far!

 

[BUF]

I hope it is destroyed after the forensic people are through with it.

If they find evidence that she was placed in the fridge, it will probably be used as evidence in trial.

 

[Only4Justice]

I'm a little behind but since the beginning, I have felt the Death of Bella could have been an accident. And then a panicked cover up. Perhaps RB was trying to stay clean and went off the rails. That's not hard to do when you are an addict.

Just a possibility. I have no sympathy for her whatsoever.

JMO


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[Whiteorchids]

I don't think JA is the father. Why on earth would he not submit to a DNA test? If it came back he wasn't I suppose all this attention he's getting disappears.

 

[Paulas88]

I don't think JA is the father. Why on earth would he not submit to a DNA test? If it came back he wasn't I suppose all this attention he's getting disappears.

Maybe his DNA would connect him to other crimes? IDK

 

[Whiteorchids]

Maybe his DNA would connect him to other crimes? IDK

That's a thought. Unsolved crimes are checked against DNA, fingerprint in a nationwide database and if he's a convicted felon his DNA would already been in there because it's required by law.

 

[bluesneakers]

Maybe his DNA would connect him to other crimes? IDK

And other children.