MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #6

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  • #821
Yes, she was mostly involved with placing her in the bag, or did it herself...remember the blanket?

I was trying to find links but I can't - sorry. The known facts are that mothers who kill their children include endearing things like toys and blankets and then dispose of them in water. Men dispose of children on land as in the case of Jeremiah Oliver. In which case his mother tattooed his date of death on her arm. But she was subjected to his domineering ways.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...iah-Oliver-5-Worcester-14-Sept-2013-*ARRESTS*
 
  • #822
I'm so wondering about the second blanket found with Bella. I wonder if it was a comforter for her bed that matched decorations in her room.

"At the well-kept apartment building, Bond excitedly decorated Bella’s bedroom with stuffed animals and new furniture, said Megan Fewtrell, a close friend at the time. Bond hung purple curtains across the window in the tidy room. She gave the bedroom a monkey theme: They were Bella’s favorite animal."

...

Bella would wake early, and Taylor, careful not to rouse Bond, would pluck the girl from her bed, change her diaper, and dress her in slippers and a pink corduroy bathrobe with a monkey face on the back.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...oe/dLTwKDG6aRL3QO4qHdb5nJ/story.html#comments
 
  • #823
I was trying to find links but I can't - sorry. The known facts are that mothers who kill their children include endearing things like toys and blankets and then dispose of them in water. Men dispose of children on land as in the case of Jeremiah Oliver. In which case his mother tattooed his date of death on her arm. But she was subjected to his domineering ways.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...iah-Oliver-5-Worcester-14-Sept-2013-*ARRESTS*

He's such a cute little boy!! : ( I agree with the disposal method of water for mothers and closer to home versus fathers being on land and further from home. I don't have a link either. Darn!

Just how long was Rachelle Bond planning on playing the DCF took Bella card, if not confronted by MM's friend???
 
  • #824
I'm so wondering about the second blanket found with Bella. I wonder if it was a comforter for her bed that matched decorations in her room.

"At the well-kept apartment building, Bond excitedly decorated Bella’s bedroom with stuffed animals and new furniture, said Megan Fewtrell, a close friend at the time. Bond hung purple curtains across the window in the tidy room. She gave the bedroom a monkey theme: They were Bella’s favorite animal."

...

Bella would wake early, and Taylor, careful not to rouse Bond, would pluck the girl from her bed, change her diaper, and dress her in slippers and a pink corduroy bathrobe with a monkey face on the back.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...oe/dLTwKDG6aRL3QO4qHdb5nJ/story.html#comments

Plus this:

"Police then headed to the apartment, and a State Police trooper noticed children’s clothing on the floor, including the “zebra” theme that investigators had seized on after Bella had washed up on the shores of Deer Island."
http://www.masslive.com/news/boston/index.ssf/2015/09/bella_bond_tip_that_led_to_arrests.html
 
  • #825
I am sorry but who is "JB"?

I'm obviously talking about RB. Slight of the finger and accidentally put JB. Thank you for pointing that out. Don't want to confuse anyone.
 
  • #826
If we take away her "story", there are few facts to back up Rachelle's story. You're right. It's Rachelle's word against MM's word. I don't think little Bella's body revealed much from the autopsy~certainly not a conclusive cause of death. Unless the punching in the stomach was determined and that's a card the prosecution isn't playing yet. It will come out at MM's trial - JMO.

Sorry to go OT from the quote first, but I am under the impression that not only are females more likely to use 'comfort' items in the 'burial' of a child, aren't men also more likely to kill by doing things like throwing the child against a wall or heavy beating, while women would be more prone to things like suffocation, poison, medicine OD, etc?

To reply to the quoted post, the only facts we have so far are Bella's body and ID, but almost everything else is hearsay?

RB makes allegations, yet there's no facts with which to back them up (forensics on the fridge and mattress may help with checking some of her story).

Then there's stories from friends or acquaintances, some of which fit into our biases or into the story told by RB and some seem to contradict our biases or RB's story.

The other women from the women's hostel say she was a good mother, loved her baby and took great care of her. RB's sister says she was prone to violence.

JA says RB would never hurt Bella. Yet he also says that he and his mother called DCF and hoped to get custody of Bella (why, if not for abuse or maltreatment?)

RB claims she was held hostage by MM who injected her with heroin into her jugular. An ex-girlfriend of MM says she certainly didn't appear to be held hostage and that RB told her that she had to inject into the neck because all her other veins were collapsed.

There was no child stuff visible in the apartment. JA's stories said that he went to the door when he tried to find out where Bella was, not that he went inside. If he had gone inside, then I expect RB would have just said she'd tidied away the toys while Bella was in foster care, and it might not have seemed too suspicious to say that. But I only remember him saying he went to the door, not that she let him in.

A neighbor of MM's mother, while he lived with his mom prior to her death, said that MM played quite well with the neighbor's son (baseball or something in the street?). One of RB's neighbors says that MM didn't play very well with Bella, getting upset/annoyed when Bella threw a ball in his direction.

There seems to be consistency in MM's friends and acquaintances saying he was a fan of dark paranormal things, demons, etc. Books on related subjects were found in RB's apartment where MM was living for a few months (living or occasionally staying over, we're not sure). One of MM's ex-girlfriends new b/f claims MM was violent toward his ex-gf, but another ex-g/f went to visit him at RB's place.

The guy, MS whose sister called the cops about Bella and got her ID'd, he said both RB and MM were locking Bella into a closet and letting her scream. RB's sister claims they were both treated like this as children...RB might be under the impression that locking a screaming child in a closet is like sending a child to stand in the corner for misbehavior??? But MS, who says he 'moved out' from temporarily staying with RB and MM over their treatment of Bella, while he was there he doesn't say he did anything other than sit by and watch....so in that sense I believe him, cos he makes himself look nasty and isn't showing any preference for his supposed lifelong friend, MM, when he makes this accusation.

I think there are 20 or 30 other things we could list in a similar way that I've done with these few points.

Nothing, other than the hard facts of the dead body and the ID as Bella Bond, seems at all certain or evidence-based in this whole case. I just sincerely hope that doesn't mean both of them will walk away with little or no punishment.
 
  • #827
He's such a cute little boy!! : ( I agree with the disposal method of water for mothers and closer to home versus fathers being on land and further from home. I don't have a link either. Darn!

Just how long was Rachelle Bond planning on playing the DCF took Bella card, if not confronted by MM's friend???

IMO - she planned to play it as long as she could collect the checks. But when MM went into the hospital and the friend got involved she was afraid that MM would spill the beans so she made up the story for the friend who believed her because she is good that way with guys - then ran to JA and repeated her story as the poor battered woman, (cough, cough).
Because she is good that way with guys.
She hates men and despises women.
And hates her mother.
And her sister.
And herself.

MOO
 
  • #828
Great post Amonet. You recapped that better than I could. I'm glad you get what I'm saying. Her story is certainly not fact and we may end up hearing a shocking, this is what actually happened version that is nothing like her story and will make more sense with the timeline and few facts we know.
 
  • #829
another inconsistency I just noticed.

MM's ex girlfriend who claims to have been over to the apartment and was offered bottled water claims there were no children items in view in the apartment, seeming to suggest that Bella's things were no longer there. But when LE searched they saw items that immediately confirmed in their minds that they had the right place and child (ie. the zebra themed children's items) laying in plain view on the floor.

So LE found items belonging to a child but the ex GF of MM claims there was no evidence of Bella's existence during her visit to the apartment which predated the LE visit.
 
  • #830
IMO - she planned to play it as long as she could collect the checks. But when MM went into the hospital and the friend got involved she was afraid that MM would spill the beans

Which seems odd since MM isn't a bean spiller.

Was JA the trigger for RB's confession? He was there in July right? And he was around when she confessed to MS and it went to the police?

Apparently no one else was concerned about Bella's whereabouts, RB probably could have kept collecting benefits and carrying on as usual for much much longer if she wanted to. Did she think it would all come out when JA came back asking about Bella?
 
  • #831
another inconsistency I just noticed.

MM's ex girlfriend who claims to have been over to the apartment and was offered bottled water claims there were no children items in view in the apartment, seeming to suggest that Bella's things were no longer there. But when LE searched they saw items that immediately confirmed in their minds that they had the right place and child (ie. the zebra themed children's items) laying in plain view on the floor.

So LE found items belonging to a child but the ex GF of MM claims there was no evidence of Bella's existence during her visit to the apartment which predated the LE visit.

Me too. So I'm wondering if those items were only in the bedroom. In the living room there was no pink chair, no toys as we see in the B-Day video. Did the X GF not go in the other rooms?
And not for nothin' that poor woman has to live with the memory that she got a water bottle from the fridge.
 
  • #832
Which seems odd since apparently MM isn't a bean spiller.

Was JA the trigger for RB's confession? He was there in July right? And wasn't he around when she confessed to MS and it went to the police?

Apparently no one else was concerned about Bella's whereabouts, RB probably could have kept collecting benefits and carrying on as usual for much much longer if she wanted to. Did she think it would all come out when JA came back asking about Bella?

IMO I don't think she really knew MM or understood him. I think they were just working off each other's checks. She thought he was unstable and she feared he would just talk, but he is an OCD focused individual. He will still stick to his story even if he goes to trial by a Grand Jury indictment.

MOO
 
  • #833
I think JA moving back to Boston is the only reason we found out Bella's identity that week. RB was the one feeling the pressure of JA knocking and asking questions. She was the one that needed to come up with a story for where Bella was.

If JA wasn't back in Boston, MM would have gone in the hospital, came back and the two of them would have continued on their downward spiral.

If RB killed Bella and MM really thought Bella was with DCF, RB would have eventually kicked him out and came up with some hair brained abduction story. I can hear it, I just got her back and someone took her...

If MM killed Bella and RB's story is true he would have eventually killed her too. Maybe a forced overdose of heroin. His story is she overdosed and always thought Bella was with DCF and he gets away scott free.

If it was done together, paranoia got the best of them scrambling for a save my own butt story. We've only heard RB's version. Man I want to hear something from his camp.

Her body turning up ruined whichever of these two is the worse evil.
 
  • #834
Which seems odd since MM isn't a bean spiller.

Was JA the trigger for RB's confession? He was there in July right? And he was around when she confessed to MS and it went to the police?

Apparently no one else was concerned about Bella's whereabouts, RB probably could have kept collecting benefits and carrying on as usual for much much longer if she wanted to. Did she think it would all come out when JA came back asking about Bella?

We must have been typing at the same time! lol lol
 
  • #835
  • #836
I wish a reporter would push for a statement from MM's camp on why MM has pleaded not guilty.
If he's sticking with the "I thought she was with DCF" story. Then did he notice any weird behaviors from RB? When does he think Bella was killed? Does he think RB did it or some stranger? Explain the demonology books. Looking back did he see her carry out a big heavy bag? Did she tell him the refrigerator was off limits to him?
Come on, dig a little Boston Globe!
 
  • #837
IMO I don't think she really knew MM or understood him. I think they were just working off each other's checks. She thought he was unstable and she feared he would just talk, but he is an OCD focused individual. He will still stick to his story even if he goes to trial by a Grand Jury indictment.

MOO

Sticking to his story is the only sensible thing to do. It also shows that he is a heck of a lot smarter than RB. Stupid people think they can outsmart the police by "explaining" and he isn't stupid.

That is why I don't buy the MM/duffel bag story, especially if he had weeks to plan how he would dispose of the body.
 
  • #838
If they impounded MMs car ( and we have no idea) there should be some evidence or a body that was placed in the trunk for a cadaver dog to sniff out.. maybe. MOO

I just wonder if being tightly wrapped in heavy plastic would thwart a dog? I dont have much faith in those dogs anyway, JMO
 
  • #839
Sticking to his story is the only sensible thing to do. It also shows that he is a heck of a lot smarter than RB. Stupid people think they can outsmart the police by "explaining" and he isn't stupid.

That is why I don't buy the MM/duffel bag story, especially if he had weeks to plan how he would dispose of the body.

I agree. Plus, MM sat by and listened to Rachelle Bond tell who knows how many people that DCF took Bella. No reason for him to say anything different. Let Rachelle do the talking. No skin off his teeth. Rachelle's problem is when she started 'splaining things. . .
 
  • #840
If they impounded MMs car ( and we have no idea) there should be some evidence or a body that was placed in the trunk for a cadaver dog to sniff out.. maybe. MOO

I just wonder if being tightly wrapped in heavy plastic would thwart a dog? I dont have much faith in those dogs anyway, JMO

I'm not a cadaver dog expert, but I believe the dog could still detect the scent of death. They're pretty amazing! I am curious to know where the dogs hit in the apartment.

I understand what you're saying though. Here's an article if you're interested:

‘Cadaver dog’ work more accepted by cops, courts

More recently, these dogs have helped convict some murder suspects, even when no body is found. Trainers and some forensic scientists say the dogs can detect human residue that’s been left behind in a trunk, or on a blanket or tarp, or a temporary grave of some sort. In some cases, the dogs also help pinpoint areas where air and soil can be tested with increasingly sophisticated detection devices — though these methods have not been without controversy.

Proving what these dogs know isn’t easy.

http://www.newstribune.com/news/2014/dec/03/cadaver-dog-work-more-accepted-cops-courts/
 
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